Hulk vs ????

Started by badabing12 pages

Originally posted by Dalak
Yup, just like Souja started Glads vs Hulk. It doesn't make it any less of a spite thread.

Hulk vs ????

Who can the Hulk beat in a battle. There is no prep and the fight starts in a large city. No BFR. This is for any character below Silver Surfer on a cosmic level. Also, no magicians please.
Spite thread, really? Wow, I guess that ???? is too much for Hulk to handle. You are just angry because every debate you engage in ends with a loss. It's alright little guy. Don't get your feathers ruffled.
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Originally posted by batdude123
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Powers and abilities

The Master of MagnetismArguably the most powerful being on the planet, Magneto is a mutant with the superhuman power of magnetokinesis.[1]

Magneto can shape and manipulate magnetic fields that exist naturally or artificially. It is unclear, however, whether he must draw magnetic force from outside himself (if so, then he can do so over vast distances). It could also be that he can both naturally generate and draw on the earth's magnetic field to increase his power, effectively making him both a reservoir and a conduit.

As the Master of Magnetism, he can lift, move, and alter objects (sometimes weighing many thousands of tons) through magnetic force alone, manipulate the iron-enriched blood-flow to one's brain to induce aneurysms or unconsciousness, control ferrous particles in the atmosphere (even the very air), alter the Earth's magnetic field which extends into space as the Magnetosphere, increase his own strength to the extent of being able to exchange blows with at least Colossus, erect electro-magnetic force fields with a high degree of impenetrability (protecting himself or others from almost any psionic, energy, or physical attack), and achieve an indefinite range of other effects.

Magneto's power is for all practical purposes limitless. With the primal forces of nature at his command, Magneto has stopped armies, raised islands from ocean floors, moved mountains and threatened to devastate the world with apocalyptic floods and earthquakes. Magneto once blanketed half the globe with a self-generated electro-magnetic pulse that caused widespread devastation.

Magneto can use his magnetic powers in more than one way simultaneously. He can completely assemble a complicated machine within seconds through his powers. Although Magneto often gestures when using his magnetic powers, he can utilize them fully even when standing totally still merely by concentrating.

Magnus is tied very closely to the Earth's EM Field. As it is affected, so is he. He knows instinctively all that happens to it, and with this link is granted an odd sort of immortality. The Earth lends him strength by its simple existence. He draws on it all unconsciously.

Magneto's ability to wield his superhuman powers effectively is dependent upon his physical condition. When severely injured, his body is unable to withstand the strain of manipulating great amounts of magnetic forces. When his powers are not at their peak, he appears to have greater difficulty controlling forces other than magnetism.

Magneto usually protects himself with a personal forcefield that he can quickly expand to protect large areas. His forcefield has withstood the affects of multiple nuclear weapons, volcanic eruption, the depths of space and attacks from multiple Avengers or X-men, as well as Phoenix, Thor, and even Galactus. It is possible he is changing the energy of the attacks, rather than simply blunting their impact. Magneto seems to be able to sense the changes in energy fields that predict such attacks, allowing him to shield energy attacks as fast as lasers despite having little or no warning. By concentrating Magneto can perceive the world around himself solely as patterns of magnetic and electrical energy. He can perceive the natural magnetic auras surrounding living beings, as well.

Although Magneto's primary power is magnetism, he seems to have some ability to project or manipulate any form of energy that is related to magnetism. He can fire and absorb bolts of electricity and of pure magnetic force, reverse lasers and other forms of radiation or energy when fired at him, create enough intense heat as infrared radiation to destroy a metal door, and become invisible by deflecting visible light around his body, as he is able to manipulate the entire electromagnetic spectrum. (He has also dispersed a "flame cage" created by the original Human Torch, but whether he had simply expanded his personal force field or employed something else entirely is unclear.) However, Magneto almost always uses magnetism, so perhaps it is more difficult for him to manipulate other forms of energy.

Magneto has the ability to manipulate gravitational fields possibly via gravitomagnetic effects. He can open wormholes through spacetime. In addition, he can create anti-gravity fields and does so whenever he levitates non-magnetic objects. When the imposter Xorn was disguised as Magneto, he increased his powers fifteen times over with the Kick drug, and the Stepford Cuckoos said that he was now powerful enough to 'do something to gravity and time'. However, Magneto tends to use magnetism.

Magneto is a skilled strategist and hand-to-hand combatant.

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Originally posted by batdude123
Read this 😎 :

Powers and abilities

The Master of MagnetismArguably the most powerful being on the planet, Magneto is a mutant with the superhuman power of magnetokinesis.[1]

Magneto can shape and manipulate magnetic fields that exist naturally or artificially. It is unclear, however, whether he must draw magnetic force from outside himself (if so, then he can do so over vast distances). It could also be that he can both naturally generate and draw on the earth's magnetic field to increase his power, effectively making him both a reservoir and a conduit.

As the Master of Magnetism, he can lift, move, and alter objects (sometimes weighing many thousands of tons) through magnetic force alone, manipulate the iron-enriched blood-flow to one's brain to induce aneurysms or unconsciousness, control ferrous particles in the atmosphere (even the very air), alter the Earth's magnetic field which extends into space as the Magnetosphere, increase his own strength to the extent of being able to exchange blows with at least Colossus, erect electro-magnetic force fields with a high degree of impenetrability (protecting himself or others from almost any psionic, energy, or physical attack), and achieve an indefinite range of other effects.

Magneto's power is for all practical purposes limitless. With the primal forces of nature at his command, Magneto has stopped armies, raised islands from ocean floors, moved mountains and threatened to devastate the world with apocalyptic floods and earthquakes. Magneto once blanketed half the globe with a self-generated electro-magnetic pulse that caused widespread devastation.

Magneto can use his magnetic powers in more than one way simultaneously. He can completely assemble a complicated machine within seconds through his powers. Although Magneto often gestures when using his magnetic powers, he can utilize them fully even when standing totally still merely by concentrating.

Magnus is tied very closely to the Earth's EM Field. As it is affected, so is he. He knows instinctively all that happens to it, and with this link is granted an odd sort of immortality. The Earth lends him strength by its simple existence. He draws on it all unconsciously.

Magneto's ability to wield his superhuman powers effectively is dependent upon his physical condition. When severely injured, his body is unable to withstand the strain of manipulating great amounts of magnetic forces. When his powers are not at their peak, he appears to have greater difficulty controlling forces other than magnetism.

Magneto usually protects himself with a personal forcefield that he can quickly expand to protect large areas. His forcefield has withstood the affects of multiple nuclear weapons, volcanic eruption, the depths of space and attacks from multiple Avengers or X-men, as well as Phoenix, Thor, and even Galactus. It is possible he is changing the energy of the attacks, rather than simply blunting their impact. Magneto seems to be able to sense the changes in energy fields that predict such attacks, allowing him to shield energy attacks as fast as lasers despite having little or no warning. By concentrating Magneto can perceive the world around himself solely as patterns of magnetic and electrical energy. He can perceive the natural magnetic auras surrounding living beings, as well.

Although Magneto's primary power is magnetism, he seems to have some ability to project or manipulate any form of energy that is related to magnetism. He can fire and absorb bolts of electricity and of pure magnetic force, reverse lasers and other forms of radiation or energy when fired at him, create enough intense heat as infrared radiation to destroy a metal door, and become invisible by deflecting visible light around his body, as he is able to manipulate the entire electromagnetic spectrum. (He has also dispersed a "flame cage" created by the original Human Torch, but whether he had simply expanded his personal force field or employed something else entirely is unclear.) However, Magneto almost always uses magnetism, so perhaps it is more difficult for him to manipulate other forms of energy.

Magneto has the ability to manipulate gravitational fields possibly via gravitomagnetic effects. He can open wormholes through spacetime. In addition, he can create anti-gravity fields and does so whenever he levitates non-magnetic objects. When the imposter Xorn was disguised as Magneto, he increased his powers fifteen times over with the Kick drug, and the Stepford Cuckoos said that he was now powerful enough to 'do something to gravity and time'. However, Magneto tends to use magnetism.

Magneto is a skilled strategist and hand-to-hand combatant.

May I ask where this is from?

Originally posted by Dalak
May I ask where this is from?

Yes you may. 😄

Originally posted by badabing
Hulk vs ????

Who can the Hulk beat in a battle. There is no prep and the fight starts in a large city. No BFR. This is for any character below Silver Surfer on a cosmic level. Also, no magicians please.
Spite thread, really? Wow, I guess that ???? is too much for Hulk to handle. You are just angry because every debate you engage in ends with a loss. It's alright little guy. Don't get your feathers ruffled.
🙄

You knew it would turn into a "Who can beat Hulk?", because its a question they are far less in number and easier to quantify, so don't try to pull semantics with me.

Souja stopped for now and I was being civil, and then you started that BS up again so don't whine at me buddy.

And actually No BFR takes out options for Mags to beat Hulk. Thanks for reminding me of that.

Originally posted by batdude123
Yes you may. 😄

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Originally posted by Dalak
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Wikipedia.

Originally posted by batdude123
Wikipedia.

Ahhhhhhhhh. Well I have a couple more questions: Would the Black Hole count as BFR, and can he hear behind his fields?

If those fields don't regulate sound then a few claps are going to have him in pain, and the energy blast thing is sketchy IMO. Hulk's taken a pissed THor's lightning and sustained contact with an electrical being named Zzax or somesuch. The scans should be in the respect thread.

Originally posted by Dalak
Ahhhhhhhhh. Well I have a couple more questions: Would the Black Hole count as BFR, and can he hear behind his fields?

If those fields don't regulate sound then a few claps are going to have him in pain, and the energy blast thing is sketchy IMO. Hulk's taken a pissed THor's lightning and sustained contact with an electrical being named Zzax or somesuch. The scans should be in the respect thread.

I really don't know. 😬

Originally posted by Dalak
The current Hulk isn't that stupid at all. And I was asking for examples, I'm not saying he couldn't beat Hulk I was jsut saying I couldn't think of anything off teh top of my head.

Actually back to teh Doom angle, thinking about how he pre-preps for a bunch of stuff, after Hulk broke his field so long ago he'd probably have some sort of Anti-Hulk device on him, and he already tried to blow him up with a Gamma Bomb once and failed.

I just have NO FRICKING CLUE what said Anti-Hulk Device could be now that BFR is nulled.

Originally posted by batdude123
I really don't know. 😬

Well if anyone else has some info on Galactus around that time, or Mag's shields blocking sound that would be helpful.

IMO a Black Hole would be BFR, but that would be for more Removing the Battlefield itself 😄

Originally posted by Dalak
Well if anyone else has some info on Galactus around that time, or Mag's shields blocking sound that would be helpful.

IMO a Black Hole would be BFR, but that would be for more Removing the Battlefield itself 😄

Yeah, however he still might be able to take out Hulk with the blackhole. 😬

Originally posted by batdude123
Yeah, however he still might be able to take out Hulk with the blackhole. 😬

IN an unrestricted fight, yeah. This however is No BattleField Removal. And any Black Hole big enough to suck Hulk in will definitely remove the Battlefield 😄

Originally posted by Dalak
IN an unrestricted fight, yeah. This however is No BattleField Removal. And any Black Hole big enough to suck Hulk in will definitely remove the Battlefield 😄

Damn. I meant to say "without" using the black hole. 😆 He also has control over gamma radiation (part of being in control of the entire EM spectrum). So, theoretically, he might be able to suck the gamma radiation right out of Hulk's body. 😬

Magneto can bfr hulk, but his extreme healing factor/regeneration should keep him safe.
And for the record, Galactus never tried to break Magnetos shields.
He gave off a mental shrug, and while immensely powerful, he didn't even take notice of the insects trying to probe his mind.
The psychic backlash is what Magneto gets the feat of shielding them from. He didn't point and blast, or anything of the like. Just shrugged mentally, and Erik shielded the Xmen and himself from the backlash. Very old comic, btw.

And about the King Thor killing Hulk with a tree stump.........That is pis, considering what the guy has survived before. Truely, the tree should have shattered on contact with the Hulk, since he's more durable than the tree.
The writer had a brainfart, and needed to give Thor some cred, by having him kill one of the strongest beings in Marvel. Didn't need to make sense, i guess.

Kinda like Superman being knocked out by a gas station explosion, even though he had survived nukes before that. Contradicts continuity and all.
But as long as it shows someone we hate looking bad, it fits the agenda...Right?? Doesn't need to make sense.
Kinda like if Juggernaut was to be shown to be impaled and killed, with a toothpick......Let Marvel print that, and the fans would riot. Why?? Cuz it contradicts established history.
But when it happens to Hulk, we accept it at face value, right?? GTFOH

Originally posted by batdude123
Damn. I meant to say "without" using the black hole. 😆 He also has control over gamma radiation (part of being in control of the entire EM spectrum). So, theoretically, he might be able to suck the gamma radiation right out of Hulk's body. 😬

Most attempts to do that Fail, thoguh there are some Famous exceptions (Silver Surfer's got the juice to do it), and if he does what is he going to do with the energy he's drawing out of Hulk?

And I'm not sure he's shown control over Radiation like that in any previous showing either.

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Originally posted by UniOmni
Magneto can bfr hulk, but his extreme healing factor/regeneration should keep him safe.
And for the record, Galactus never tried to break Magnetos shields.
He gave off a mental shrug, and while immensely powerful, he didn't even take notice of the insects trying to probe his mind.
The psychic backlash is what Magneto gets the feat of shielding them from. He didn't point and blast, or anything of the like. Just shrugged mentally, and Erik shielded the Xmen and himself from the backlash. Very old comic, btw.

And about the King Thor killing Hulk with a tree stump.........That is pis, considering what the guy has survived before. Truely, the tree should have shattered on contact with the Hulk, since he's more durable than the tree.
The writer had a brainfart, and needed to give Thor some cred, by having him kill one of the strongest beings in Marvel. Didn't need to make sense, i guess.

Kinda like Superman being knocked out by a gas station explosion, even though he had survived nukes before that. Contradicts continuity and all.
But as long as it shows someone we hate looking bad, it fits the agenda...Right?? Doesn't need to make sense.
Kinda like if Juggernaut was to be shown to be impaled and killed, with a toothpick......Let Marvel print that, and the fans would riot. Why?? Cuz it contradicts established history.
But when it happens to Hulk, we accept it at face value, right?? GTFOH

Thanks for the info, and for proving that others are able to see the PIS in that too.

Originally posted by Dalak
Most attempts to do that Fail, thoguh there are some Famous exceptions (Silver Surfer's got the juice to do it), and if he does what is he going to do with the energy he's drawing out of Hulk?

And I'm not sure he's shown control over Radiation like that in any previous showing either.

He has COMPLETE control over the EM spectrum (which includes gamma radiation). shuriken

Originally posted by batdude123
He has COMPLETE control over the EM spectrum (which includes gamma radiation). shuriken

Very true.

Magneto has a ton of crap he can do with the EM spectrum....