Get Rid of The VS Forums Petition

Started by Blair Wind18 pages

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I gotta agree with what AC said, AND what Scoobs said. I know alot of you dont know me, but then again lots of you dont go to the comic vs section. Sure theres spam, sure theres trolls, but tell me one forum here that hasnt had to deal with that. Alot of the threads there are about debate, different peoples opinions. I happen to find it more interesting then "rate my crotch" 🤨

Please, unless you know what the hell your talking about, dont go and make a petition. Talk all you want, there is freedom of speach. However, most of it seem to be hot air and pointless (and why the hell would a topic like your hair get 150 replies?? You want pointless....THATS pointless)

Originally posted by Scoobless
Can't have those pesky minorities running rampant all over the place, let's grab our white hoods and string these people up......

What the hell were they thinking by not being into the exact same stuff as the rest of us?

It's as if they don't care care about the important issues of the day like my hair:

While we're at it why don't we get rid of the religion, politics and art forums? all those subjects do is cause disagreements...... and not once have they rated my butt (which is a 9.5 by the way)

Nothing like using third hand knowledge as a reason to get rid of "these people" .... I know the Nazis have received a lot of bad press for it over the years but I think the world is ready for a whole new period of propaganda and exclusion

Who's with me? ...... 😕

I noticed people voting who have never been into the Vs Forum..... I noticed a lot of prejudice..... I noticed that your claim to fame is getting people to post in a topic about your hair (I'd go with the perm 👆 )

Class? class?.........class? ....... hmmm....... where was that again? was that the post you made telling people what rights they shouldn't be entitled to? (I thought free speech was a big deal in most places).... no that couldn't have been it.... maybe it was in your gross generalisations concerning a forum you don't take part in?..... no, sorry.... brain-fart... that's not what "class" would be at all... my mistake... i guess you're gonna have to point your really classy posts out.
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Now that I've shared that, let me say this:

A lot of people in the Vs forum are aware of the ridiculous spammers, the duplicate threads, the trolls, the bashers, the idiots and the possibility that new threads wont last past 3 pages

Yet the same people come back almost every day. The fact is, there's a lot of people in the Vs forum who aren't idiots or trolls or spammers... some of them aren't even prejudiced little morons ( 😱 )

Every forum has problems, deal with it! The mods can only do so much.

the Vs forums rules are very clear but you can't force every new poster to read or follow them... and you can't ban them for minor, some would say "petty", annoyances

Lastly..... No-one is ever going to force you to visit a forum you don't give a crap about... so why not just get over your little gripe and you can go make a thread in the OTF about how best to treat your new perm.... I'm sure it'll get you a record number of responses (that's important to you..... right? 😉 )

P.S... Weasel Man would kick Superman's arse! 😛


well I think scoobless basically covered the rest of my lectures lets call it a day 9999 gambit12 a049

I'll co-sign most of the "for" arguments (especially Scoob's....lol). And I voted in the 'keep them' column.

I Mod the comic vs. forum, which is one of the busiest forums on KMC outside the OTF and GDF. Thus, I see as much of the crap that goes on as anyone on KMC....but it's hardly enough to create a vague cry for closing them. Far from it, in fact. And given the business of my forum, I'm proud of how little it gets reported (as opposed to, say, this forum which is a mainstay of the reports every day).

There was talk a while back of closing down the SW vs. forum. The gripe was that all of the battles had happened and there wasn't much else to do and incidents of spam and such had risen. The forum stayed, but it was the first serious discussion of closing one. In situations like this, the argument for closing it goes beyond simply "they're a waste" so it's a bit more valid.

But for the majority of the vs. forums, I would defy you to find the amount of nonsense, bashing, and spam that would be needed to intelligently justify talking about closing them down permanently.

And given the sheer popularity of many of the vs. forums, you can't really talk about it from a standpoint of non-use either.

There will be pointlessness in every forum at some point. But just because you either don't understand vs. forums or don't like them (and you're not alone in that respect...many see them as a waste of time) isn't enough to understandably discuss their closing. Enough respectful, intelligent, and worthwhile members take part in vs. discussions to warrant the forums. Until that changes, I see little reason to belabor this discussion.

Re: Get Rid of The VS Forums Petition

Originally posted by Vinny Valentine
[b]These VS forum are a complete Waste, its just a way for people to post 4 threads every day without getting in trouble for spamming. Its a waste and most of the shit in there is ridicules, I Say we get rid of these useless forums.

a waste?

you are claiming the vs. forum to be a WASTE in the off topic forum no less...
where the great rate my rack, person with the most posts wins, evening thread, the counting thread, and a buttload of other completely WORHTLESS threads have been made and further been dogpiled under literally thousands and thousandes of meaningless, spamtastic posts correlating to littler more than flirtations or clever uses of the lastest smilie...
the OTF is notorious for people makinf multiple threads in a single day, why is the OTF exempt from your ridicule but the vs. form must be dealt with?
where in your mind lies the difference? You say that the vs. forums are useless.. yet you reserve from making the proper argument to back that kind of claim up... WHY is it that you think the vs. forum is useless again?

Originally posted by Vinny Valentine
[center] [b]These Vs Forums make KMC look bad, even worse then the OTF does. They usually last like 20 posts to the max,

yup, you know about jack shit about the vs. forums... look at the spiderman vs. wolverine thread, the hulk vs. juggernaught thread... your shortsidedness to dictate what the max of the majority of threads in the vs. topic is ridiculous considering the consistency in which you've been there.. funny.

Originally posted by Vinny Valentine
[center] [b]and if we wanted a serious one like Superman vs Lex Luther, we could post it in a Comic book forum or such. But these Stupid Gaming ones and comic ones people are coming up with are a disgrace.

vincent [/B]


again.. why? you can't just go around claiming that something's a "disgrace" without the proper evidence to back it up... 🤨

Originally posted by Barker
Somehow, you all seem to think you're better because you think you know who would win between Wolverine and Anakin in a Battle in Metropolis. 😐

From what I've heard, fights Spew a lot, and a majority of People banned because of those Forums Sock.

what you've heard? 🤨

so if you were in germany circa 1942-45 and all you heard was nazi's denying that the death camps existed they must have been right? correct? cause what you've heard is obviously more credible than what's actually taking place.. right? 🙄

Originally posted by Barker
I said 'You All Seem to think that' , not 'You said you were'.

I've been to all of the Forums, and I've seen the Carnage too.

Uprisings against Mods in the SWVF? 🤨

And yes, I've seen First-Hand, what those Trolls do.

is this also something that you're basing an opinion on from what you heard? if you had actually been there during the incident without bias you would ave seen reasonable justification for the forum members to retaliate the way they did...

you have to understand mods are not infaulible they're just people.. like you and me and they can be wrong too... in fact not too long ago a mod threatened a member's account for simply having a difference of opinion from said mod, it was completely uncalled for and not justifiable whatsoever but it's what happened...

you can't just sit there and assume that those with power are always right and those without can't possibly be, because if you do then the american revolutionaries HAD to have been wrong in seperating themselves from british rule... pfffft.. 🙄

Originally posted by Vinny Valentine
Notice how all the smart people, who have some class, said something half smart?

notice how you've barely said anything worth saying AT ALL?

Originally posted by Quincy Archer
Well...guys um.

Yeah I know I'm butting into this thread to disagree...but I'm alright with that!

If they are so bothersome...just don't go in them? Perhaps you could just...ignore them?

I mean, I don't frequent the vs threads, but alot of people do. We shouldn't just get rid of what alot of people come to kmc for just because we find them irritating.

(My Two Cents^)

wow.. common sense.. I applaud you.

Originally posted by Vinny Valentine
OH Big Woop!!

100 posts jesus tap dancing christ, I open a thread about getting my hair cut and it will get 150 posts easily.

100 Posts is nothing.

These forums are just a waste for people to make millions of threads, like golem.

which again causes me to question the motives of your necessity to see the vs. forum closed down... 🤨

it's obviously not quality over quantity because I've seen that haircut thread and that served purpose that had little more to do than ego swelling on your behalf... it wasn't important, it wasn't interesting, so why is a thread like that okay with you but the vs. forum isn't? explain....

Originally posted by DigiMark007
I'll co-sign most of the "for" arguments (especially Scoob's....lol). And I voted in the 'keep them' column.

I Mod the comic vs. forum, which is one of the busiest forums on KMC outside the OTF and GDF. Thus, I see as much of the crap that goes on as anyone on KMC....but it's hardly enough to create a vague cry for closing them. Far from it, in fact. And given the business of my forum, I'm proud of how little it gets reported (as opposed to, say, this forum which is a mainstay of the reports every day).

There was talk a while back of closing down the SW vs. forum. The gripe was that all of the battles had happened and there wasn't much else to do and incidents of spam and such had risen. The forum stayed, but it was the first serious discussion of closing one. In situations like this, the argument for closing it goes beyond simply "they're a waste" so it's a bit more valid.

But for the majority of the vs. forums, I would defy you to find the amount of nonsense, bashing, and spam that would be needed to intelligently justify talking about closing them down permanently.

And given the sheer popularity of many of the vs. forums, you can't really talk about it from a standpoint of non-use either.

There will be pointlessness in every forum at some point. But just because you either don't understand vs. forums or don't like them (and you're not alone in that respect...many see them as a waste of time) isn't enough to understandably discuss their closing. Enough respectful, intelligent, and worthwhile members take part in vs. discussions to warrant the forums. Until that changes, I see little reason to belabor this discussion.

Jin's doing well too.

Anyway, the SW vs. forum mess is different, and there's been actual talk of shutting it down. But to use that as a watermark by which to lump all of the vs. forums together is ridiculous.

Tell you what, if anyone wants to settle this, I'll monitor the reports that come in from various forums. It'll be the OTF vs. every vs. forum on KMC. Whoever has less reports in the span of a random week would win. 🙄

And I can tell you from experience: The OTF would lose. And it wouldn't even be close. 😐

P.S. And picking on golem is again cruel. Yeah, he makes too many threads. But he actually tries to contribute too. And beyond that, you're again taking an extreme and using it to talk about entire forums of members. False logic.

Originally posted by Quincy Archer
Maybe we can continue this debate rationally and civil?

continue? the "debate" would have had to start civil for it to CONTINUE to be civil... so far vinny has ridiculed the vs. forum and belittled it but has done nothing to back his claims up. he's doing nothing more than fillibustering.

Originally posted by Vinny Valentine
Hey FG725, I used facts and keep my cool you're just being biased.

hey pot.. he's just the kettle.. lay off.

speaking of which: where were these "facts" of yours again?

Originally posted by Vinny Valentine
It's TRUE that most people just spam random threads in there, and its useless and there is no reason to even keep it.

Is it? you know this for a FACT because you frequent the forum oh so much right? no wait.. I know.. you know this for a fact because you have statistical data that proves the claim right?
no.. wait.. HOW do you know this for a fact? 😕

Originally posted by Vinny Valentine
You obviously don't post here much, because people hardly talk like "yo vinny wats up"

Most Posts are thought of and posted fine.

Unlike the Vs Forum

"Who Would Win, Superman or Weasel Man? "

again.. whereare you gettin this data from? 🤨

look I just quoted a few posts in the OTF

Originally posted by Ladyluck
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Originally posted by BlackSunshine
whats goin on?
Originally posted by ILoveMyDaniel
Okay I'm back.
Originally posted by cain marko
a naked girl in my bed...would be the best thing ever
Originally posted by Thorinn
You had me at whipping. droolio

yes.. these threads are SOOOOO much more intelligent and thought out then the posts in the vs. forum. 🙄

Originally posted by Quincy Archer
But guys, people frequent those forums more than practically every other forum here on kmc. Because some people make bad threads doesn't mean great debators on kmc should be stripped of their legroom.

Like I said, if you hate them, just don't go there.

again.. common sense... follow his lead vinny looks like he could teach you a thing or two...... dozen.

Originally posted by Quincy Archer
And I know what you're probably thinking, "But it's the off-topic forum! We are allowed to make weird threads." This is true, however the vs forums are entitled to the same privelages as you. No matter how ridiculous the "vs match" is.

Exactly. There was a time when Vs Matches in that forum became beyond ridiculous and the general consensus of comic book characters was really ridiculous, it also had some ridiculous members. The fact of the matter is, though, the threads had their place. They either got locked if they were spam or merged if they were duplicates. Regardless of how stupid a thread is, that's what it's for, Comic Vs Threads.

There's no reason to get rid of a forum you never visit. If a forum has absolutely no traffic, then it can be raised to possibly make way for a forum that will get traffic, but requesting it's removal because you don't like it is really dumb.

I had a blast in the Vs Forum when it was good, I didn't like the people there anymore so I did what any sensible person would do. I stopped going there. They don't have to put up with me, I don't have to put up with them. They go about their business, I go about mine. None of us were saying "Ban him!" or "Get rid of this shit forum!".

However, let's not say things we can't take back in arguing over which forum is more intelligent. Comic Vs is hardly Mensa.

-AC

Originally posted by DigiMark007

Tell you what, if anyone wants to settle this, I'll monitor the reports that come in from various forums. It'll be the OTF vs. every vs. forum on KMC. Whoever has less reports in the span of a random week would win. 🙄

And I can tell you from experience: The OTF would lose. And it wouldn't even be close. 😐

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Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Exactly. There was a time when Vs Matches in that forum became beyond ridiculous and the general consensus of comic book characters was really ridiculous, it also had some ridiculous members. The fact of the matter is, though, the threads had their place. They either got locked if they were spam or merged if they were duplicates. Regardless of how stupid a thread is, that's what it's for, Comic Vs Threads.

There's no reason to get rid of a forum you never visit. If a forum has absolutely no traffic, then it can be raised to possibly make way for a forum that will get traffic, but requesting it's removal because you don't like it is really dumb.

I had a blast in the Vs Forum when it was good, I didn't like the people there anymore so I did what any sensible person would do. I stopped going there. They don't have to put up with me, I don't have to put up with them. They go about their business, I go about mine. None of us were saying "Ban him!" or "Get rid of this shit forum!".

However, let's not say things we can't take back in arguing over which forum is more intelligent. Comic Vs is hardly Mensa.

-AC

agreed.. simple logic... I hope you can follow it vinny.

Originally posted by Vinny Valentine
But All it is Is Threads up to 20 Posts.

They have no right to be around.

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Either your grossly ignorant of the subject about which you are speaking and are simply too lazy to get informed before running off your mouth, or your intentionally trying to mislead people about the nature of the vs forums.

20 posts? Please, most good debates take 20 posts just to get warmed up:

Spiderman vs Wolverine: 13,539 posts
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f77/t10725.html

Silver Surfer vs Superman: 1,703 posts
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f77/t29475.html

Superman vs the Hulk: 3,228 posts
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f77/t371986.html

Batman vs Spiderman: 6,531 posts
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f77/t308935.html

Namor vs Wolverine: 1,635 posts
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f77/t349648.html

Juggernaut vs the Hulk 6,903 posts
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f77/t15217.html

Personally, I think the vs. forums are retarded... but having said that... there are still a lot of people who enjoy arguing about useless subjects. So let them have their fun and just stay out of it. Is it really that hard to ignore a forum if you don't like it.... I mean what's the big deal?

I'd come with hard facts at this point if anyone's willing to take this debate on. The comic vs. forum is upset about this thread (to say the least). So you'd be up to your eyeballs if you can't back up everything you're saying.

I just want it to remain respectful. Regardless of Vinny's disregard for the vs. forums, he's still entitled to his opinion, as is anyone else who voted in the "get rid of them" column.