Living Tribunal vs Phoenix revisted

The Judge Jury and Excutioner of Marvels Mutiverse vs The Power of Creation

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mr masters and galactic storm need to get into this thread

IMO Living Tribunal is more powerful.

Originally posted by golem370
IMO Living Tribunal is more powerful.

From the OHOTMU issue released yesterday.

What is OHOTMU?

I like the parts where it says it's only superior is the One-Above All.. and "the Living Tribunal then had the Phoenix Force depart from earth." 😖hifty:

Originally posted by Takion
What is OHOTMU?

Originally posted by BlaqChaos
The Official Handbook Of The Marvel Universe

does it really matter if LT made the PF leave earth every universe only had a PF avatar not the entire force the force itself in its wholeness resides in the white hot room.

The point is he was able to.

my point is its just an avatar its not diffrent then when supes beats those weak avatars of darkseid.

wheres the 2 people who know these characters right. its weird because they both provide scans, essays and arguements.

they both vanished?

Originally posted by BlaqChaos
From the OHOTMU issue released yesterday.

To GS (when he eventually shows up)...I know you're going to state that the Phoenix is a multiversal force and all that jazz, but how is it that a simple Shi'ar weapon can hurt the Phoenix to the point where it needs to look for a host? This happened in 'Endsong'...where the Phoenix was flying through space and was shot down by a Shi'ar weapon. It was so weakened, that it used a firefly as a host. You're telling me THIS is the 'heart of creation'?

BTW, this was an avatar-less Phoenix, which is supposed to be much more powerful than an avatar.

Originally posted by Lord S
To GS (when he eventually shows up)...I know you're going to state that the Phoenix is a multiversal force and all that jazz, but how is it that a simple Shi'ar weapon can hurt the Phoenix to the point where it needs to look for a host? This happened in 'Endsong'...where the Phoenix was flying through space and was shot down by a Shi'ar weapon. It was so weakened, that it used a firefly as a host. You're telling me THIS is the 'heart of creation'?

BTW, this was an avatar-less Phoenix, which is supposed to be much more powerful than an avatar.

Originally posted by Validus
The same way Reed just owned Living Tribunal and his buddies.

hmm, according to this a number of things seem to be alluded to:

1. lt did use its authority to send away the pf. the way it is worded certainly SEEMS to indicate the way marvel views the relationship between the -- lt>pf.

2. pre-retcon beyonder DID wipe out death!!? i thought it was all illusions . . . 😕

3. lt>ig

4. hotu was indeed multiversal and>lt

some odd allusions, to say the very least . . .