Originally posted by xmarksthespotOr Energy Superman, "potentially the most powerful being in the omniverse" if ever grasped his powers.
Additionally they've distinguished - though rather convolutedly - the difference between a universe, a multiverse and the omniverse.Where does that put someone like Roma/Merlyn who've always been noted as the Omniversal Guardian.
Originally posted by Validus
The same way Reed just owned Living Tribunal and his buddies.
Yeah, but the writer viewed it being merely an M-body appearance of LT.
http://www.comicboards.com/spidergirl/view.php?rpl=060628190826
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Additionally they've distinguished - though rather convolutedly - the difference between a universe, a multiverse and the omniverse.Where does that put someone like Roma/Merlyn who've always been noted as the Omniversal Guardian.
Eh, this just proves Rhino is not the biggest jobber in comics. That's what the fundamental forces of existence are for.
Juntai quote: (post)Or Energy Superman, "potentially the most powerful being in the omniverse" if ever grasped his powers.
LOOOOOOOOOOL. Superman > Omiverse > TOAA/Presence
I bet DC had to give half their copyrighted stuff to Marvel for that aggreement. But I think it's worth it.
Originally posted by Mider
there is only one LT i dont think its an M-Body or that he has any
quoted from Tom Delfalco himself.
"Also, while the the LT exists in all dimensions at the same time, I believe that this particular physical manifestation of the LT can be temporarily hurled across the dimensional planes...just like a part of your body can be injured or even die (think of finger tip that is infected and needs to be amputated) without affecting the rest of your body."
So it's either MC2 last planet standing doesn't adhere to the rules or he can still manisfests parts of himself througout realities while his other parts did not at will as m-bodies
Originally posted by Sixth_Winged
Yeah, but the writer viewed it being merely an M-body appearance of LT.http://www.comicboards.com/spidergirl/view.php?rpl=060628190826
Originally posted by Validus
I like how he likens an M-body to but a fingernail of the whole but that still doesn't make up for Reed's feat. I know the "comic book tech > all" rule but usually that doesn't go for human tech.
Oh believe me, it does, specially for Reed and Doom. Science and Logic keeps bending backwards for them. Guy does crazy shit and was responsible for creating 616 and stuff.
Whole abstract being have succumbed to lesser tech in the past *cough*phoenix and Galactus*cough*. And besides, LT wasn't defeated or killed, he was hurled outside the universe and if it was just a small part of LT, it isn't that hard to accept specially considering they were concentrating at Galactus around the time.
Originally posted by Mider
oh so now he exists in every dimension when before he was only one single entitity that would go to the dimensions he was needed in? thats lame
No, he is still a single entity Mider. He can however just send part of his body to exist in a reality. He mostly resides in the Star chamber and sent parts of himself if there is trouble.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Why is the Omniverse above TOAA... it's a thing not a person/entity.
What I understand is that the Omniverse is everything: Marvel Universe, Image Universe, Valiant, DC Universe, Transformers, Tekkaman, Lord of the Ring's universe, Lovecraft's universe, etc. including the real multiverse/universe (ours). The Omniverse is the composition of every multiverse. TOAA, Presence, or whatever god you'd have are seperate entities/it/he/she/whatever. That is if you want to see them as the same being but appearing as different aspects to different multiverse/universe.
Originally posted by Validus
All that nigh-omniscience in one room should have seen something coming.
well i dunno that myself. so i'd just quote Tom's explanation. Perhaps they didn't care enough since they can eventually return.
"Reed did not deflect the power of the Great Powers' attack. He merely struck first. As I see it, Reed sucker punched them. While they were focused on Galactus, he struck before they could launch their own attack."
"I see Reed's weapon as a vibratory beam that reflects the target's own power back at the target. The more powerful the target, the more powerful the reflection."
"Reed caught the Great Powers by surprise...which is the only reason why his weapon worked...and only temporarily. I believe any one of the Great powers can easily and eventually bust free of Reed's "endless loop". All Reed did was buy Earth a little time."
Originally posted by Mider
oh so now he exists in every dimension when before he was only one single entitity that would go to the dimensions he was needed in? thats lame
It's not lame. He is afterall the guarding of the multiverse. He doesn't just tell threats to 616 to wait till he's done with the trials of the other universes.
Oh, and also I think they are saying that the sum of the LT exists outside the multiverse, but he can manifest in the physical realm in multiple universes simultaneously.
basically, he does what Phoenix does, except he doesn't use host/avatars, he uses M-Body representations of himself that embody a fraction of his total sum (a 'fingernail' of the whole LT).
It makes sense.
The LT M-Body is analagous to Rachel Summers as a Phoenix Host. Not the full embodiment of the whole Phoenix/LY, but enough to get the job done (most of the time).