captain america vs. batman(no weapons)

If we couch this in terms of their respective backstories, Bats should be superior in terms of versatility and knowledge of technique since he spent his formative years traveling the world to acquire his skill sets. Cap, by contrast, shouldn't know as much, since his origin indicates only extensive military/commando type fight training.

In terms of physical ability, Cap wins because he's been augmented to human perfection via the super-soldier serum. By the way, I'm assuming we're talking about traditional Cap and not Ultimate Cap, who can lift a couple of tons.

The result? In an ultimate fighting cage match, its close, but I say Bats wins by drawing on a superior portfolio of fighting skills. Despite all arguments based on previous fights or various feats performed by either character, the fact remains, that if one stays consistent with these characters' back stories, there is no way Captain America can be as knowledgeable as the Batman. No way. Plus, I also give Batman the edge in terms of sheer willpower. Although Cap is no slouch in this department either, I don't see him staring down the Batman and winning. Plus, Batman is dirtier. If push came to shove, Batman would gouge out Cap's eyes as soon as blink. I don't think Cap is up to that type of tactic.

If this fight takes place in any locale that allows the Batman to hide or or take advantage of cover, its not close. Cap is dead before he knows what hits him.

but its in a plain room, no hiding. however i agree with you, batman is more skilled, especially as the cap doesn't have his shield.

Originally posted by Dr. Zaius
If we couch this in terms of their respective backstories, Bats should be superior in terms of versatility and knowledge of technique since he spent his formative years traveling the world to acquire his skill sets. Cap, by contrast, shouldn't know as much, since his origin indicates only extensive military/commando type fight training.

In terms of physical ability, Cap wins because he's been augmented to human perfection via the super-soldier serum. By the way, I'm assuming we're talking about traditional Cap and not Ultimate Cap, who can lift a couple of tons.

The result? In an ultimate fighting cage match, its close, but I say Bats wins by drawing on a superior portfolio of fighting skills. Despite all arguments based on previous fights or various feats performed by either character, the fact remains, that if one stays consistent with these characters' back stories, there is no way Captain America can be as knowledgeable as the Batman. No way. Plus, I also give Batman the edge in terms of sheer willpower. Although Cap is no slouch in this department either, I don't see him staring down the Batman and winning. Plus, Batman is dirtier. If push came to shove, Batman would gouge out Cap's eyes as soon as blink. I don't think Cap is up to that type of tactic.

If this fight takes place in any locale that allows the Batman to hide or or take advantage of cover, its not close. Cap is dead before he knows what hits him.

Agree, I also think Batman has an upper hand because of his intelligence. There are many showcases where weaker superheroes triumph against stronger villains through smarts. That's why I think intelligence is slightly more important than strength.

Originally posted by batdude123
The fight with Cass Batman wasn't even trying that hard. He was mainly using one hand the whole time when fighting her, and even then he managed to get a killing blow in there. Even though Bats coughed up blood, he was clearly not trying his hardest when fighting against her as evidenced by the fact that he was fighting with one arm most of the time.

Batman has defeated Lady Shiva. PERIOD. Whether she was mind-controlled or not, still remains to be speculation. However, for the sake of arguement, let's just say that she WAS mind-controlled. She was still striking him with lightning fast punches which he blocked, and then procceeded to knock her ass out with just one punch. Although, Batman and Shiva have fought outside of that and she has never beaten him. He has gotten the upperhand in their other fights as well. Also, one time Batman turned to face her, and she just straight up ran away from the fight. Gee, I wonder why??? Sounds to me like she was scared.

Bronze Tiger did overwhelm Bats when they first fought. However, BT surprised him when he appeared so it was more like an ambush. Second time, Batman was very much aware of what was going on, and he got the better of him before he was tranqed.

The Dragon and Batman fight was a stalemate, pure and simple. Batman stopped before they actually started to get into it because Dragon explained what was going on. It wasn't like Batman wanted to kill Dragon or anything, he just wanted to take him into the police station. Dragon was still trying to defend himself from being taken in. However, the fight remains a stalemate.

With that said, Captain America takes this one 6-7/10.

Quick question?? Why when Batman defeats Shiva while Mindcontrolled, its valid.
But when Wonderwoman decently handles an all out mind controlled Superman, leaving him hurt badly, its pis??

Curiousity demands this question be asked.

Originally posted by UniOmni
Quick question?? Why when Batman defeats Shiva while Mindcontrolled, its valid.
But when Wonderwoman decently handles an all out mind controlled Superman, leaving him hurt badly, its pis??

Curiousity demands this question be asked.

Originally posted by UniOmni
Quick question?? Why when Batman defeats Shiva while Mindcontrolled, its valid.
But when Wonderwoman decently handles an all out mind controlled Superman, leaving him hurt badly, its pis??

Curiousity demands this question be asked.

First of all, the fact of whether or not she was mind-controlled remains to be speculation. Second of all, I never said that Wonder Woman fighting a mind-controlled Superman was PIS. 🤨

Originally posted by xmarksthespot

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Originally posted by UniOmni
Quick question?? Why when Batman defeats Shiva while Mindcontrolled, its valid.
But when Wonderwoman decently handles an all out mind controlled Superman, leaving him hurt badly, its pis??

Curiousity demands this question be asked.

Originally posted by Accel
It's really moreso that he defeated her so easily. Bruce has stated that Shiva is above him in skill on more than one occasion.

He's a pacifist. What do you expect???

Originally posted by batdude123
He's a pacifist. What do you expect???

he's a pacifist? shock

don't worry about answering that, i'll do it myself.

no Pict he isn't a pacifist, thats why he beats the sh*t out people. 😛

Originally posted by xmarksthespot

Originally posted by A.J
😆 thats not real right what happened there

Oh yeh and in skill Batman>, in physicality Cap>, overall Cap would win narrowly.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Oh yeh and in skill Batman>, in physicality Cap>, overall Cap would win narrowly.

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Originally posted by batdude123
He's a pacifist. What do you expect???

Originally posted by Accel
Pacifist? 🤨

Believing in the fact that killing is wrong, so in turn he underrestimates himself. He's not the blood thirsty killer she is, so he doesn't do anything it takes to end somebody's life. However, when you look at his feats, it would show that he is very much within her level of skills. ✅

Originally posted by batdude123
Believing in the fact that killing is wrong, so in turn he underrestimates himself. He's not the blood thirsty killer she is, so he doesn't do anything it takes to end somebody's life. However, when you look at his feats, it would show that he is very much within her level of skills. ✅

He's also learned her deadly moves and his lack of blood lust wouldn't cause him to believe someone was more skilled than he was unless they were actually more skilled.

Originally posted by Accel
I highly doubt Bats has ever underestimated himself. We're talking about a man who firmly believed he could survive unaided in the vacuum of space for more than 20 or so seconds.

He's also learned her deadly moves and his lack of blood lust wouldn't cause him to believe someone was more skilled than he was unless they were actually more skilled.

He believes that he could do something physically, sure. However, he does at times underrestimates his skill. Him saying that he isn't as skilled as she is, is contradicted by his feats against her. His stating that is a load of crap if you ask me. 😬

Originally posted by batdude123
He believes that he could do something physically, sure. However, he does at times underrestimates his skill. Him saying that he isn't as skilled as she is, is contradicted by his feats against her. His stating that is a load of crap if you ask me. 😬

Bats has never been one to underestimate his own fighting ability. Heck, he even tried to take down Wonder Woman with pure brute force alone.

Originally posted by Dr. Zaius
If we couch this in terms of their respective backstories, Bats should be superior in terms of versatility and knowledge of technique since he spent his formative years traveling the world to acquire his skill sets. Cap, by contrast, shouldn't know as much, since his origin indicates only extensive military/commando type fight training.

In terms of physical ability, Cap wins because he's been augmented to human perfection via the super-soldier serum. By the way, I'm assuming we're talking about traditional Cap and not Ultimate Cap, who can lift a couple of tons.

The result? In an ultimate fighting cage match, its close, but I say Bats wins by drawing on a superior portfolio of fighting skills. Despite all arguments based on previous fights or various feats performed by either character, the fact remains, that if one stays consistent with these characters' back stories, there is no way Captain America can be as knowledgeable as the Batman. No way. Plus, I also give Batman the edge in terms of sheer willpower. Although Cap is no slouch in this department either, I don't see him staring down the Batman and winning. Plus, Batman is dirtier. If push came to shove, Batman would gouge out Cap's eyes as soon as blink. I don't think Cap is up to that type of tactic.

If this fight takes place in any locale that allows the Batman to hide or or take advantage of cover, its not close. Cap is dead before he knows what hits him.

go back to the supes vs thanos thread king kam, i was owning, and now somebodys saying hat supes will speedblitz.

and bats would have a prob with his tech, there is really no way he can win the magrity.