Wolverine 43

Originally posted by jinzin
no he stayed in one piece cause of jean, he came back because of his healing factor..

yup... the suit roasts logan with a plasma hot that reduces him to an admantium skeleton... he heals and gets up..

you don't get it.. I'm NOT ARGUING THAT WOLVERINE'S IMMORTAL so stop acting like I am, it's getting on my nerves...

the point of these feats is to demonstrate that while the hand resurrected logan.. there's nothing to dictate that logan NEEDED their help to do it, which is what you were implying...
as for the time length.. I don't recall...

- do they HAVE to?!?!?! 🤨

his heart literally EXPLODED, it blew up from the inside..= dead... he got back up...

no it's not void.. logan DIED.. BUT his regeneration mutation made him come back.. the plot device just gave his mutation the energy to do it... that means that killing him doesn't mean that he won't come back..

- so beheading logan doesn't count as a kill? or incineration? 😕

If it wasn't for hea he would have died and moved on, it was Jean who saved him which Wolverine even comments on

That was pretty bad since if it was a nuke then why was his denim still intack or the for that matter parts of his body and signs in the surrounding area?

No it's called an example, as Puck didn't have help either and he doesn't have a healing facotr.

It's a plot device as it's not his regular powers, he got an upgrade so it wasn't really Wolverine

-Wolverine has had his lower intestines blow to bits by the Punisher

Beheading? now I'm going to have to call PIS on that one. Incineration is fine, he has been burned pretty bad in the past and survived.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
The Weapon X Novel that jinzin is referring to is the TBP that is made up of the Weapon X short stories that we first published in MCP in the 80s.

Thought it was a trade, just wasn't sure if it was vol.2.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
-He came back because of Jean, not because he was immortal
-Which ongoing? the mini where he got nuked?Did they actually state he died though?

Another time wolverine died and was stated as dead by a whole medicall staff thjat deals with superhuman was in the issue were night cralwer and wolverine are looking for peter and they are atatck by a monster. The moster powers was to drain the life force fully out of ur body. Wolverine blood all of it lef this body he was dead they all said he was dead and he was dead for several hours if im not mistaken.

Back in the 80s Wolverine was fighting some guy who infected him with a virus that crippled his healing factor (and made his adamantium start to protrude from his skin). Wolverine figured out that he need to central trauma to focus his healing factor on. So what did he do you ask? He stabbed him self in the brain. The break in combat was seconds and then he was up and going. He heals brain damage in seconds.

The hand books have always been wrong. They hired someone who only knew the basics of characters to write them and then used the inaccurate stuff they wrote as templates for the next hand books.

About the recent incineration feat. I'd like to point out that we never see any part of the skeleton below the knees. Maybe Wolverine has some really killer vibranium boots and he still had charred flesh inside 'em... 😕 Give me a break I'm doing the best I can to rationalize it.

If you can heal fast enough (or well enough) to survive a beheading it seems to me like the situation would never come up... since you would close the wound right behind the blade that was severing the head. Be that as it may Wolverine has survived a decapitation. Pro. X once said that in order to kill Wolverine his head need to be removed and taken away from the immediate vicinity of his body or his healing factor would reattach it... but that doesn't shed any light to the situation since it makes no sense either. 😕

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Well considering there was nothing to regenerate from that attack how could he? he also compared his immortalty to Deadpool's

I think he was comparing his regeneration to deadpools but that got lost in interpretation....

I don't know how wolverine regnerated.. and I'm not supporting that feat. so why again bring it up like that's the focal point here.. it's not...

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Well when the handbooks came out such as Marvel Universe or the Deluxe edition he couldn't. It's only fairly recently he has been getting the healing factor upgrade and thus been able to do things like healing from brain damage.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Eh? no they said healing from brain damage "in a matter of days, if not hours". Not true, as my great aunt had a crushed torso from a car crash and my mom is a nurse and she dealt with many people with that. Plus adamintium protects his insides and did they actually or was it Wolverine giving his one-liners once again. Normal humans can even do that.

give me case examples of that..I'd like to see them.. having your torso crushed and having your organs jellified are two completely different things.. but if you have proof.. bring it here.... 🤨

Originally posted by King_Mungi
I never claimed the handbooks are the bibile, but saying someone isn't immortal and they are is a HUGE difference. That's not a guideline when they come out and say he can be killed.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
If it wasn't for hea he would have died and moved on, it was Jean who saved him which Wolverine even comments on

cause she held him together.. if she didn't he woulda looked like a puddle around an admantium skeleton... but he did die and he did come back.. jean had not so much do do with that has she did making sure that wolverine had something to come back to.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
That was pretty bad since if it was a nuke then why was his denim still intack or the for that matter parts of his body and signs in the surrounding area?

Originally posted by King_Mungi
No it's called an example, as Puck didn't have help either and he doesn't have a healing facotr.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
It's a plot device as it's not his regular powers, he got an upgrade so it wasn't really Wolverine

sure it was.. it's like you're not listening here..

wolverine's Powers stayed the same.. his powers were just given energy sufficient enough to heal what was damaged.. like when he takes relative damage and needs to eat meat to get his body back to peak performance... here he needed a crystal to do the same.. the point is.. he died.. he came back. and he attested it to his healing factor... not the crystal.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
-Wolverine has had his lower intestines blow to bits by the Punisher

actually this statement is counterproductive for you.. who seems to be in favor of the argument that the handbooks have substantial validity... logan had major organs blown completely into debris and he regenerated them.. doesn't that in itself make the handbooks wrong?

Originally posted by King_Mungi
-Beheading? now I'm going to have to call PIS on that one. Incineration is fine, he has been burned pretty bad in the past and survived.

Originally posted by jinzin
I think he was comparing his regeneration to deadpools but that got lost in interpretation....

I don't know how wolverine regnerated.. and I'm not supporting that feat. so why again bring it up like that's the focal point here.. it's not...

sabretooth healed from brain damage in the early 90's... just food for thought...

normal humans can survived having all their internals turned to JELLY by a hulk punch? 🤨

give me case examples of that..I'd like to see them.. having your torso crushed and having your organs jellified are two completely different things.. but if you have proof.. bring it here.... 🤨

it's a huge difference sure.. but it's innacurate info all the same.. something the handbooks are notorious for having an abundance of.... and again, i'm not arguing for wolvie being immortal whatsoever.... but the possibility does exist...

Originally posted by King KAM
oh my god.... you FANBOY FROM HELL!!!!!

if you dont see the redicilousness in this than....please just say you see it...he had no cells the regenerate from...he was a skeleton......he was gone man...

Originally posted by capt it up
to tell u the truth I never stated wolverien was immortal I was merely suggesting that it was a possability

Originally posted by Rewmac
✅ ✅ ✅ 😖mart:

Originally posted by King_Mungi
No, but you compared Deadpool's immortality with Wolverine's

Accept there is no proof that he is

Like what? correct me if I'm wrong didn't Gorgon kill Wolverine *shrugs*

Originally posted by Rewmac
Capt now that's the top of fanboyility....Wolverine can be killed and there characters that can kill him even with is skeleton in adamantium...

Ur personal attacks on me don't make you look good and u will fail misserably if you keep it up becuase I can and have out debated u were wolverine is concerned

Originally posted by Rewmac
Capt now that's the top of fanboyility....Wolverine can be killed and there characters that can kill him even with is skeleton in adamantium...

saying that wolverine COULD be immortal when marvel material has stated that he MIGHT be immortal and shown plenty of proof suggesting that he VERY WELL MAY BE immortal is fanboyism????? 🙄 PUH LEASE!

Originally posted by capt it up
to tell u the truth I never stated wolverine was immortal I was merely suggesting that it was a possability and I think ur the only one who noticed that

i aim to please.

Ooooh please. Wolverine isn't the character who will be immortal or can be immortal. He is a mutant...Nothing more nothing less...

List of characers that could kill Wolverine :

Galactus

Dormamu

Death

Thanos

King Thor

Destroyer

Captain Universe in Silver Surfer

TOAA

Any Celestail

Dr. Strange

DC :

Darkseid

Superman

Superboy Prime

Dr. Fate

And I could do this all day...But nevermind...

Originally posted by Rewmac
Ooooh please. Wolverine isn't the character who will be immortal or can be immortal. He is a mutant...Nothing more nothing less...

List of characers that could kill Wolverine :

Galactus

Dormamu

Death

Thanos

King Thor

Destroyer

Captain Universe in Silver Surfer

TOAA

Any Celestail

Dr. Strange

DC :

Darkseid

Superman

Superboy Prime

Dr. Fate

And I could do this all day...But nevermind...

well that's certainly a nice list of supposedly immortal characters.... and it's a GREAT way to distract from the point at hand.. but alas you failed to address what I asked.. so AGAIN I will ask you:

Originally posted by jinzin
saying that wolverine COULD be immortal when marvel material has stated that he MIGHT be immortal and shown plenty of proof suggesting that he VERY WELL MAY BE immortal is fanboyism????? 🙄 PUH LEASE!

Gorgon's mutant power is the kill with eye contact.

Suggesting that Wolverine may be immortal has little to do with fan-boyism. It is a fairly reasonable conclusion to come to when you have read as many Wolverine appearances as jinzin, capt or myself. It has not only be suggest that Wolverine is immortal in his back story but the word immortal was actually used. Wolverine him self stated that his healing factor is contained in every cell in his body and given enough energy he could heal from a drop of blood. The evidence that Wolverine is immortal far out weighs any that suggest he isn't.

That being said unless they have recont'ed Wolverine's healing factor to be Hulk'esq (as in drawing energy from the negative zone) it makes no sense for Wolverine to heal from incineration. His back story now says that he healing factor relies on the nutrients from the food he eats and his body couldn't story that anywhere near enough for him to regenerate like that (even if it could doesn't matter when your body is totally gone). The should give Wolverine a sCRYed type deal where his healing factor use the ambient particles around him to reform his body.

Spoiler:
Wolverine is coming out with a new series Wolverine v4 - Wrath Of A God...Wolverine is going to be a God and gonna kil everyone...Watch out for the final fight between The All Mighty Wolverine and the lousy Full-Power Galactus. Coming July 2006

Originally posted by grey fox
WHAT THE **** !!!!

Wolvie came back from that *Looks rapidly at the scans and then Wolvie Bio*

What in the name of god were the writers smoking ?

Well to be fair the writer is new and im sure that he felt doing somthing like this would get him in good eyes in terms of wolverine fans and whatnot 😬