Originally posted by Creshosk
Different commands. You'll be interested to note the smilies box on the left of the reply box when replying to or creating a new thread. by default it displays 18 out of 52 default smilies. Below it are two links to "Get More" and Get Even More smilies.
Thanx bud...
I just noticed...
they have so many cool ones at that link...are there other links with even more still?
Originally posted by Mr Master
Thanx bud...I just noticed...
they have so many cool ones at that link...are there other links with even more still?
Originally posted by Skeets
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There's a bunch there you can make your own aswell.
Wow...this is NUTS!
thanx very very...
Originally posted by Creshosk
No, just something you don't agree with.So why did you abandon the course of being civil?
Simple. Open yourself up to the possability that he is telling the truth.
I'm a logical person. And I have never seen him lie. Do you think he doesn't truly believe what he's saying?
I for one admire heis refusal to bandwagon and question things. Too often do we have that now a days, with people just accepting what they've been "taught".
This post brought a tear to my eye bawling
The same qualities mark yourself as one of the greats on this forum, that and your persistance in the face of ignorance. Creshock i salute you 😉
i made a research about who really is the most powerful among these characters you were fighting with...
the most greatest thing to prove these is asking the Creator Himself isn't it?
there was someone who once told me that not all the information in the comics they released are yet complete..for example the Phoenix which is actually secretly known for being a part of the Divine Creation itself including the whole multi-verse but now it is revealed that the Phoenix is part of Creation in comics...
he also said that the Phoenix he created in the Marvel Comics symbolized the flames of the Holy Spirit ..or the Holy Spirit version of the Marvel Comics..can i ask who dared kill the Holy Spirit? isn't it very absurd to kill such? or in your own multi-verse? the Phoenix symbolizes Christ resurrection as well..so it will just revive anyway as if nothing happened...no more Demonic power, why not focus on the Good part?
well these are just one of the things he said
no more no less
I've got nothing to say since i don't know much about these cosmic entities & that only he knows it well...the reason i posted is to stop the flare in you topic ok? that's all...^_^
Originally posted by Elie4lyf
i made a research about who really is the most powerful among these characters you were fighting with...
the most greatest thing to prove these is asking the Creator Himself isn't it?
"the Creator Himself"?
You must be referring to Jack Kirby & Stan Lee...they created Jean Grey(Phoenix)
Originally posted by Elie4lyf
there was someone who once told me that not all the information in the comics they released are yet complete..for example the Phoenix
It's been nearly 44 years since Phoenix was born.
How much longer is "SOMEONE" going to keep us in suspence?
Originally posted by Elie4lyf
for example the Phoenix which is actually secretly known for being a part of the Divine Creation itself including the whole multi-verse
"secretly"?
How does "SOMEONE" know this then?
"Divine Creation itself"?
Originally posted by Elie4lyf
but now it is revealed that the Phoenix is part of Creation in comics...
What's the difference between "Divine Creation itself" and "Creation in comics"?
Originally posted by Elie4lyf
he also said
Aha!... So "SOMEONE" is a "he".
Originally posted by Elie4lyf
he also said that the Phoenix he created in the Marvel Comics
So "he"/"someone" created Phoenix....which means "he"/"someone" are Jack Kirby & Stan Lee.
Which also means since you said:
"someone once told me"
You must have a personal relationship with the late Kirby or good ol' Stan.
You honor us with your presence.
Originally posted by Elie4lyf
he also said that the Phoenix he created in the Marvel Comics
symbolized the flames of the Holy Spirit ..or the Holy Spirit version of the Marvel Comics..
When we have discussions or arguments involving these characters, our views have to be supported on panel(inside of comic books)in order to have any relevance.
"he" said "she" said holds NO weight in these forums.
Originally posted by Elie4lyf
can i ask who dared kill the Holy Spirit? isn't it very absurd to kill such?
The "Holy Spirit"? Yes.
Phoenix? No.
Originally posted by Elie4lyf
the Phoenix symbolizes Christ resurrection as well..so it will just revive anyway as if nothing happened
lmfao
Originally posted by Elie4lyf
...no more Demonic power, why not focus on the Good part?Are you ministering or debating comics?
[QUOTE=7079633]Originally posted by Elie4lyf
[B] well these are just one of the things he said
no more no less
Honestly(imho) "he" didn't say anything.
Funny how your saying, "someone" ..."he"....(Stan and Kirby)
give Phoenix religious status of the most high like symbolizing the "flames of the Holy Spirit" or "Christ resurrection"....that's a funny one.
But in the comics(Marvel)they make themselves GOD himself.
God/Jack calls him his "Collaborator".....
That's why none of what you said makes sense.
Originally posted by Elie4lyf
I've got nothing to say since i don't know much about these cosmic entities
Well those sure are outlandish claims your making without "knowing much", wouldn't you say?
Originally posted by Elie4lyf
...the reason i posted is to stop the flare in you topic ok? that's all...^_^
"the flare in your topic"?
Your going to have to elaborate.
I have no idea what your saying.
Originally posted by Mr Master
"the Creator Himself"?You must be referring to Jack Kirby & Stan Lee...they created Jean Grey(Phoenix)
It's been nearly 44 years since Phoenix was born.
How much longer is "SOMEONE" going to keep us in suspence?
"secretly"?
How does "SOMEONE" know this then?
"Divine Creation itself"?
What's the difference between "Divine Creation itself" and "Creation in comics"?
Aha!... So "SOMEONE" is a "he".
So "he"/"someone" created Phoenix....which means "he"/"someone" are Jack Kirby & Stan Lee.
Which also means since you said:
"someone once told me"
You must have a personal relationship with the late Kirby or good ol' Stan.
You honor us with your presence.When we have discussions or arguments involving these characters, our views have to be supported on panel(inside of comic books)in order to have any relevance.
"he" said "she" said holds NO weight in these forums.
The "Holy Spirit"? Yes.
Phoenix? No.
lmfao
Honestly(imho) "he" didn't say anything.
Funny how your saying, "someone" ..."he"....(Stan and Kirby)
give Phoenix religious status of the most high like symbolizing the "flames of the Holy Spirit" or "Christ resurrection"....that's a funny one.But in the comics(Marvel)they make themselves GOD himself.
God/Jack calls him his "Collaborator".....
That's why none of what you said makes sense.
Well those sure are outlandish claims your making without "knowing much", wouldn't you say?
"the flare in your topic"?
Your going to have to elaborate.
I have no idea what your saying.
What this poster is saying does actually have support on panel. Its certainly alluded too many a time in the comics. Not canon, but its suggested. The Phoenix is in real life principles Christs symbol. In the comics Phoenix is likened to Tiphereth, (Uncanny X-men 108 and 135.)
Tiphereth is Christs position on the Kaballah tree of life. (Google it) The Tiphereth position on the tree of life is where the divine force from beyond sacrifices part of its being, manifesting into reality transmuting into energy and matter so that creation might come about. ( Sound familiar? 😉 ) The sacrifice is performed the other way around as well with this manifestation sacrificing itself within the lower plane to regain its divinity beyond creation.
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In X-men The End Jean was again presented as Tiphereth on the tree of life:
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She used her power to ascend the X-men to a higher plane, giving them places on the cosmic tapestry
The White Hot Room is also stated on panel to be the Crown. Jean is called the White Phoenix of the Crown. The Crown in Kaballah is also referred to as Keter and is the highest symbol on the tree of life, the closest anything can get to the Unknowable God. This was suggested to be the unseen Phoenix Consciousness of New X-men. In fact in Grant Morrissons notes at the back of the New X-men Here Comes Tomorrow TPB, he said that the Phoenix Corps of the White Hot Room are like the host of heaven crossed with the Green Lantern Corps.
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In Kaballah the Seraphim, the archangels of the host are stated to be those beings closest to God and they are sent by him into creation to right any wrongs with creation, to cleanse and heal creation with a purifying fire. (The judgement of the Phoenix? To burn away that which doesn’t work?) On top of that the Seraphim were said to be fire emblazoned humanoids.
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On the tree of life that maps out Gods emanation points in and throughout creation , the path between Keter (the top of the tree) and Tiphereth (heart and soul of creation) is called the the flight of the Phoenix.
So all in all there are allusions to Phoenix being linked directly to the supreme being, however these allusions have yet to be outrightly stated so they are as yet not canon.
I did not bother to read the entire argument. Nor do I care, what it was about.
Lets face the facts, the role the Phoenix and how stands up to the rest of the cosmic’s seems confusing.
I blame it on the creative disagreement, due to several writers interpretation. It also seems that the Phoenix is a near X-Men Cosmic character exclusive. To the point ware X-Men mythos are not ported over to the rest of Marvel department (Fantastic Four, Avengers etc…)
Add on the fact that Marvel does not really keep track of what the hell they are doing. And seem to add on several different interpretation of what it means to be Cosmic/God/Omnipotent. Let alone the many retcons, and one time power ups ware just about every popular character seems to get at one point in their carrier.
However, (getting back on track) the fact that we see more then one phoenix exist at once through out several realities is dead give away. That the Phoenix Force in a multiversal scale Cosmic. Maybe be not in every single reality, but more then one (that’s for sure).
Originally posted by id369
I did not bother to read the entire argument. Nor do I care, what it was about.
Lets face the facts, the role the Phoenix and how stands up to the rest of the cosmic’s seems confusing.
I blame it on the creative disagreement, due to several writers interpretation. It also seems that the Phoenix is a near X-Men Cosmic character exclusive. To the point ware X-Men mythos are not ported over to the rest of Marvel department (Fantastic Four, Avengers etc…)Add on the fact that Marvel does not really keep track of what the hell they are doing. And seem to add on several different interpretation of what it means to be Cosmic/God/Omnipotent. Let alone the many retcons, and one time power ups ware just about every popular character seems to get at one point in their carrier.
[B]However
, (getting back on track) the fact that we see more then one phoenix exist at once through out several realities is dead give away. That the Phoenix Force in a multiversal scale Cosmic. Maybe be not in every single reality, but more then one (that’s for sure). [/B]
And like a Phoenix from the ashes this thread resurrects itself. I remember following this a year ago. 😱
I suggest reading the posts id369, there really is a lot in there to ponder.
Originally posted by CubicksYour probably right. But I am going to be vary disappointed if it turns out to be mostly Nu Uh vs. Uh Hu debate. (Circular logic really kills the topic).
And like a Phoenix from the ashes this thread resurrects itself. I remember following this a year ago. 😱I suggest reading the posts id369, there really is a lot in there to ponder.
The problem is that Pheonix's mythology contradicts the mythos of Galactus, LT, and the other cosmics. Marvel has a problem keeping its stories straight. But then again, since when is that new ?
We had Cosmic Cube, Classic Beyonder, Infinity Gauntlet, Heart of the Infinity, etc.
I have always seen Pheonix as a powerhouse. And in my book, she qualifies as one.
