Superman v.s Cable

Originally posted by Soleran
Ok, this whole paragraph is a total waste, I wasn't refutting you just telling you it your initial paragragh had little to no value in the disucssion. No one stated the fighting grounds so tell me where do 99% of all match's occur unless stated otherwise? Yeah on Earth.........don't use witty quips then leave yourself open for a bite on the ass.

Uh, no. ❌ You are still assuming Sol, regardless of if you want to insult me or not. 😉

Originally posted by Soleran
It was initially noted when SS was first spotted he wasn't going the speed of sound, after that who know how fast they were fighting, is this one of those assumptions again..........................pot kettle black.

No. Bottom line, I was refuting a point of ST0RM and you weren't even part of the conversation. ❌ He stated Cable spotted him going at super speeds. All we were saying was that SS wasn't going any faster than the speed of sound. NOTHING MORE! Superman obviously goes way past super sonic speeds, so that doesn't mean anything. Cable may be able to react at supersonic speeds, however Superman is much faster than anything Cable can detect, and besides Superman's REACTION SPEEDS are much faster than Cable's as well, and that's really the key to the whole situation.

Originally posted by Soleran
No Cable was able to enter SS's mind in the fight and guess what he has ridiculuos resistance to TP, it didn't take him years like Max either. There, you have some proof in that Cable was able to communicate mentally with SS as they were fighting. Max is a human goon compared to Cable................who by the way before his power up defeated X-man who mind wiped all of New York on a whim. Once again look up Askani or I can hook you up with a link so you can look, Superman, Maxlord etc have had NO where near the training as Cable. [/B]

You're apparently not understanding me here. I said that Cable may very well be the better telepath of the two, however you are just assuming that Cable would be able telepathically wipe Superman's mind within the duration of the fight. That wouldn't be the case because Superman would just shake it off, or he would've already speedblitzed Cable before Cable could even make a thought. You know, Superman has shook off the effects of Despero's tp. Despero>>>>>>Cable 😉 Also, Superman could very well mind wipe Cable as well. He did so against a damn near skyfather level being, why not against Cable???

Originally posted by Soleran
Wait fight like a retard, kinda like low showing when MM mind controlled him? It's well within his Character to lose 1 or 2 times.......he's lost to lesser for as you would say storylines. [/B]

Sol, you're the last person I would've expected to hear this from. 🙄 How many times have you posted the BLOODLUSTED part of the rules for everybody to read??? How many times have you stated in a fight that everybody is fighting to their full potential? And don't even give me the "it's within the character" arguement. This is coming from the same person who writes a five page essay about how Silver Surfer can speedblitz when I tell you it's not within his character??? 🙄 SUPERMAN IS FIGHTING THE BEST OF HIS ABILITY; HE IS BLOODLUSTED. Seriously Sol, don't be a hypocrite.

Originally posted by bigbran
no supe should have gotten through his upgrades. and you still didnt really respond.

What?

Originally posted by bigbran
and thanos isnt krona.

He sure isn't...Krona would wipe the floor with him.

even if cable could beat supes(which he cant) dont you know supes is unbeatable.

Originally posted by bigbran
even if cable could beat supes(which he cant) dont you know supes is unbeatable.

Your words, not anyone elses. 😄

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
What?

He sure isn't...Krona would wipe the floor with him.

and i was saying that thanos didnt get beat stupidly like krona, if you reread it, you could seee where im getting at.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Your words, not anyone elses. 😄

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Your words, not anyone elses. 😄

Originally posted by bigbran
supes should have stopped getting upgrades, a long time ago.

In case you haven't noticed, PLENTY of characters have gotten upgrades. Supes got a HUGE downgrade, and has been slowly brought back up.

Originally posted by bigbran
and i was saying that thanos didnt get beat stupidly like krona, if you reread it, you could seee where im getting at.

Thanos didn't exactly lose the IG and the CC in the most intelligent ways...as a matter of fact..he became sort of a joke afterwards.

Anyway, enough of your Superman hating and your Thanos stroking...

Back to topic, Superman beats Cable.

Originally posted by Broly92
Ya all his fanboys know that he can't beat God 😉
but he still beats Cable 6-7/10

If Superman beats God, I think that's the day most of us should retire from comics.

which will be soon....

Originally posted by bigbran
which will be soon....

Uh, no. ❌ You are still assuming Sol, regardless of if you want to insult me or not. 😉

Yes, yes I am and since no one said it's in space, it is ASSUMED they fight on Earth or a planet like Earth. I should continue to bash you for being silly a second time 🙂

No. Bottom line, I was refuting a point of ST0RM and you weren't even part of the conversation. ❌ He stated Cable spotted him going at super speeds. All we were saying was that SS wasn't going any faster than the speed of sound. NOTHING MORE! Superman obviously goes way past super sonic speeds, so that doesn't mean anything. Cable may be able to react at supersonic speeds, however Superman is much faster than anything Cable can detect, and besides Superman's REACTION SPEEDS are much faster than Cable's as well, and that's really the key to the whole situation.

Uh huh, yeah I agreed with you. My point was to say you using an example of speed and him boomtubing is moot for that discussion. Superman doesn't go that fast normally and secondly Superman's normal speeds are more then enough. Use a more relevant example next time is all I was saying, which means your example sucked.

You're apparently not understanding me here. I said that Cable may very well be the better telepath of the two, however you are just assuming that Cable would be able telepathically wipe Superman's mind within the duration of the fight. That wouldn't be the case because Superman would just shake it off, or he would've already speedblitzed Cable before Cable could even make a thought. You know, Superman has shook off the effects of Despero's tp. Despero>>>>>>Cable 😉 Also, Superman could very well mind wipe Cable as well. He did so against a damn near skyfather level being, why not against Cable???

Well I am listening and understanding EXACTLY what you are saying here. I never EVER said Cable could wipe Superman's mind in the fight unless he was given time. Which brings up a second point in your paragraph, you state Superman shook off Despero's effects and yet earlier in this thread when I showed MM having an effect on Superman you countered it was a low showing for a storyline. Hey it was your picture I reposted for you that you had used in another discussion. So regardless of Superman's high feats clearly its reasonable to assume Cable does have an opportunity to do the same thing based on that showing. Reading comprehension is your friend, stop looking to nitpick me by ignoring what I say and putting words in my discussions.

Sol, you're the last person I would've expected to hear this from. 🙄 How many times have you posted the BLOODLUSTED part of the rules for everybody to read??? How many times have you stated in a fight that everybody is fighting to their full potential? And don't even give me the "it's within the character" arguement. This is coming from the same person who writes a five page essay about how Silver Surfer can speedblitz when I tell you it's not within his character??? 🙄 SUPERMAN IS FIGHTING THE BEST OF HIS ABILITY; HE IS BLOODLUSTED. Seriously Sol, don't be a hypocrite.

Seriously unless you can address my points clearly without making words up about what I say and make CLEAR and VALUED illustrations don't bother posting more wasted words here🙂

Originally posted by Soleran
Yes, yes I am and since there is no one said in space it is ASSUMED they fight on Earth or a planet like Earth. I should continue to bash you for being silly a second time 🙂

😗

Originally posted by Soleran
Uh huh, yeah I agreed with you.

And that's all you had to say.

Originally posted by Soleran
Well I am listening and understanding EXACTLY what you are saying here. I never EVER said Cable could wipe Superman's mind in the fight, did I, please show me where. Which brings up a second point in your paragraph, you state Superman shook off Despero's effects and yet earlier in this thread when I showed MM having an effect on Superman you countered it was a low showing for a storyline. Hey it was your picture I reposted for you that you had used in another discussion. So regardless of Superman's high feats clearly its reasonable to assume Cable does have an opportunity to do the same thing based on that showing. Reading comprehension is your friend, stop looking to nitpick me by ignoring what I say and putting words in my discussions.

Yeah, it was a low showing. We are using Superman to the absolute best of his ability. You know, as in HIGH showings. I'm sure you can figure it out from there. 🙂

Originally posted by Soleran
Bold words when like I said above I posted your scans with Superman brain washed and you simply stated low showing, tsk tsk. Its not in Superman's character to KILL, it is in his character to Speedblitz! Hence an opportunity or two for Cable. SS has it in his CHARACTER to speedblitz, but he doesn't kill either. Do I need to write a character analyzation vs power piece to help you understand?

Seriously unless you can address my points clearly without making words up about what I say and make CLEAR and VALUED illustrations don't bother posting more wasted words here🙂

And yet, more HYPOCRICY!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yes Sol, it was a low showing for Superman. Why is that hard to understand. And seriously, don't give me the "character" arguement again. This is BLOODLUSTED. Meaning all characters are doing whatever it takes to kill the other person. You more than anybody should know this considering you post that section of the rules on threads QUITE often. Actually, the speedblitz isn't even in Silver Surfer's character. He's never done that in THIRTY years of his publications, so that point is worthless. You don't need to do anything for me, I understand what you are saying perfectly.

Uh, unless you actually have anything positive to contribute the ACTUAL debate, rather than attacking my position, then please make those points. If you just want insult me, at least have the decency to do it via pm. I am giving you CLEAR and VALUED illustrations here. You're just too busy being full of yourself to understand my point

Originally posted by batdude123
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And that's all you had to say.

Yeah, it was a low showing. We are using Superman to the absolute best of his ability. You know, as in HIGH showings. I'm sure you can figure it out from there. 🙂

And yet, more HYPOCRICY!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yes Sol, it was a low showing for Superman. Why is that hard to understand. And seriously, don't give me the "character" arguement again. This is BLOODLUSTED. Meaning all characters are doing whatever it takes to kill the other person. You more than anybody should know this considering you post that section of the rules on threads QUITE often. Actually, the speedblitz isn't even in Silver Surfer's character. He's never done that in THIRTY years of his publications, so that point is worthless. You don't need to do anything for me, I understand what you are saying perfectly.

Uh, unless you actually have anything positive to contribute the ACTUAL debate, rather than attacking my position, then please make those points. If you just want insult me, at least have the decency to do it via pm. I am giving you CLEAR and VALUED illustrations here. You're just too busy being full of yourself to understand my point

Bloodlust

It is assumed that each contestant will fight to his/her best ability, but still within the character's personality, unless specified otherwise. That means they will use any powers at their disposal. For example, even though The Flash doesn't clock each of his own opponents in the first picosecond in his own comic, it is assumed that is a viable tactic on this board since it is a proven fact that he possesses that level of speed.
It is also assumed that the characters fight at their optimum levels of ability - not explicitly weakened or unusually powered up for those who have variable power levels.

Don't pat yourself on the back here, you didn't understand the rules to begin with I guess, nor why I explained why Cable could garner 1 to 2 wins from Superman🙂

Originally posted by Soleran
Maybe I am😛

WHY CAN'T WE BE FRIENDS??? WHY CAN'T WE BE FRIENDS??? WHY CAN'T WE BE FRIENDS???? whistling

Originally posted by Soleran
Bloodlust

It is assumed that each contestant will fight to his/her best ability, but still within the character's [B]personality, unless specified otherwise. That means they will use any powers at their disposal. For example, even though The Flash doesn't clock each of his own opponents in the first picosecond in his own comic, it is assumed that is a viable tactic on this board since it is a proven fact that he possesses that level of speed.
It is also assumed that the characters fight at their optimum levels of ability - not explicitly weakened or unusually powered up for those who have variable power levels.

Don't pat yourself on the back here, you didn't understand the rules to begin with I guess, nor why I explained why Cable could garner 1 to 2 wins from Superman🙂 [/B]

The best of his ability would still mean he'd knock Cable's ass out. That's within his personality. 🙂

Originally posted by batdude123
The best of his ability would still mean he'd knock Cable's ass out. That's within his personality. 🙂

Yup its also within his personality to sit there and rationalize a fight before it happens and before he has to break "wicked" hence the opportunities.

Hey its Superman its what he does, don't shoot me, shoot the writers.

Originally posted by Soleran
Yup its also within his personality to sit there and rationalize a fight before it happens and before he has to break "wicked" hence the opportunities.

Hey its Superman its what he does, don't shoot me, shoot the writers.

Sit there and rationalize, huh?? Kind of like this??? 😗

http://img232.imageshack.us/my.php?image=supermangoingallout6pd.jpg
http://img232.imageshack.us/my.php?image=supermangoingallout29qk.jpg
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Originally posted by batdude123
Sit there and rationalize, huh?? Kind of like this??? 😗

http://img232.imageshack.us/my.php?image=supermangoingallout6pd.jpg
http://img232.imageshack.us/my.php?image=supermangoingallout29qk.jpg
http://img232.imageshack.us/my.php?image=supermangoingallout32ft.jpg

Yeah, once again its in Superman's character to not always finish off his opponent. So no matter what you show it's in his "character" to "talk" before finishing or allowing them to back off before it goes to "far."

Cable 1-2/10🙂

Originally posted by Soleran
Yeah, once again its in Superman's character to not always finish off his opponent. So no matter what you show it's in his "character" to "talk" before finishing or allowing them to back off before it goes to "far."

Cable 1-2/10🙂

No, not really. ❌ If you notice, Superman didn't give them a chance, he just blitzed them and knocked the crap out them. 😉 Btw, if you bring this up NOW, then why do you always say that SS would speedblitz somebody when he hasn't done so ONCE in thirty years of publication. It's not in his "personality." 😉 The door swings both ways Sol!!! 💃 Besides, if he's mad, chances are he's not going to kill somebody. However, he's not going to give them the chance to knock him out. ❌ He continues on the aggressive end.

Originally posted by batdude123
No, not really. ❌ If you notice, Superman didn't give them a chance, he just blitzed them and knocked the crap out them. 😉 Btw, if you bring this up NOW, then why do you always say that SS would speedblitz somebody when he hasn't done so ONCE in thirty years of publication. It's not in his "personality." 😉 The door swings both ways Sol!!! 💃 Besides, if he's mad, chances are he's not going to kill somebody. However, he's not going to give them the chance to knock him out. ❌ He continues on the aggressive end.

Batdude123 showing me scans like that doesn't change Superman's "character" his "personality" hell in the fight with BA he talked first, so what, then he stopped when BA turned his back on him, why? His honor, trust, integrity his wanting to do the right thing and allow others the chance to do so before things get out of hand.

Thats his character Batdude123 thats what fits his profile, thats how it works here as well. Thats what it means to not do something out of character.

Go back once again on the SS note and reread ALOT of what I said because it didn't rely on SS speedblitzing into a freakin fist fight but his other powers. I'll save that discussion for later, rest assured you are taking my words out of context YET again.

Oh and the door does swing both ways, however PLEASE read the letters on the door to make sure you are opening the right one, this one seems to be exit only stop trying to come in.