Count Nefaria vs Captian Marvel

Originally posted by Howard_Jones
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f51/t354306.html

You wanna argue with those scans, I'll have Johnathanos from SHC have the pleasure of picking you apart. 😉

I have seen that thread as well as his. So my question still stands.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Oh no!.....not Jonathanos! 😆

I have seen that thread as well as his. So my question still stands.

Then I'll have to start calling you Private Pile, because you obviously have a major malfunction.

Originally posted by Howard_Jones
Then I'll have to start calling you Private Pile, because you obviously have a major malfunction.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Private Pile? Your the one who said "Waitaminute. Hulk is leaps and bounds stronger than Captain Marvel. " Not me. That's a bold @ss comment to make about CM

http://therealwtf.ytmnd.com/

Let's simplify.

Captain Marvel = Superman >>>>>>>>> Hulk

Earlier today I said Superman was stronger than Hercules. He just said Hulk is "leaps and bounds" stronger than CM. Leaps and bounds? Sh!t even I never said anything like that.

Hulk, Marvel, and Supes are all about the same level physically. Really, saying one is significantly greater than any of the others is just plain silly.

I would put Hercules just a bit below them, around the same class as Wonder Woman.

Originally posted by Accel
Hulk, Marvel, and Supes are all about the same level physically. Really, saying one is significantly greater than any of the others is just plain silly.

I would put Hercules just a bit below them, around the same class as Wonder Woman.

Not really.

The Hulk has the potential to be on their level. But initially? He is no where near.

Based on what?

Originally posted by Accel
Based on what?

The fact that a non-enraged Hulk has zero feats? The fact that MANY marvel characters GREATLY exceed the Hulk's strength till the Hulk gets pissed.

Superman is ALWAYS a planet - tower. He needs no 'angry time' to become one.

Originally posted by Soljer
The fact that a non-enraged Hulk has zero feats? The fact that MANY marvel characters GREATLY exceed the Hulk's strength till the Hulk gets pissed.

Superman is ALWAYS a planet - tower. He needs no 'angry time' to become one.

Meanwhile, Hulk has constantly shown himself perfectly capable of holding his own against other top-tiers in Supe's range from the start. Does Thor greatly exceed his strength at first? Obviously not or otherwise he'd take him out no problem int he beginning. Same applies to Hercules, the Crypto-Man (who was stronger than Thor), the Super-Adaptoid, etc.

*ahem*

Namor?

...means what?

Originally posted by Accel
...means what?

Namor's a character who is nowhere NEAR Superman's, Thor's, Captain Marvel's or even Wonder Woman's physique. He, quite easily, knocked out the Savage Hulk.

Originally posted by Accel
Supes is rarely a planet-tower himself. I even think it was around the same year or so of that Maggedon feat that he also needed help moving the moon.

Meanwhile, Hulk has constantly shown himself perfectly capable of holding his own against other top-tiers in Supe's range from the start. Does Thor greatly exceed his strength at first? Obviously not or otherwise he'd take him out no problem int he beginning. Same applies to Hercules, the Crypto-Man (who was stronger than Thor), the Super-Adaptoid, etc.

Originally posted by Soljer
Namor's a character who is nowhere NEAR Superman's, Thor's, Captain Marvel's or even Wonder Woman's physique. He, quite easily, knocked out the Savage Hulk.

It doesn't change the fact that Hulk's constantly shown to be top-tier around from the get-go.

Originally posted by bigbran
Well, Thor should be above Hulk by far at first.
But maybe that is why, there fights aren't written in Thor comics.

Originally posted by Soljer
Namor's a character who is nowhere NEAR Superman's, Thor's, Captain Marvel's or even Wonder Woman's physique. He, quite easily, knocked out the Savage Hulk.

Yet, he constanty defeats people of that level. Ever think that you're doing the same damn thing that people who don't know shit about Namor do?

Also, limiting Hulk to "Class 100" is bullshit. There's no reason to limit him to that just because you don't wanna think of him as stronger than Superman. There have been times he hasn't needed "rage time" to beat the hell out of a group of top-tiers.

Also, his rage accelerates from the first hit, considering he's a goddamn walking temper tantrum.

Originally posted by Accel
Under water and far from easily. He also gave a good fight to the likes of Thor, Abomination, and Surfer in the same environment, as well as one-shotted Beta Ray Bill. In the Order #4, Savage Hulk manhandled Namor quite easily.

It doesn't change the fact that Hulk's constantly shown to be top-tier around from the get-go.

Originally posted by Accel
Again, based on what? They generally stalemate every time they engage each other in a slug-fest.

Also, Hulk isn't as strong as Superman. He would need to get pretty mad to reach that level.

Well it's obvious that Thor is gonna beat Hulk in a fight if he doesn't act like a tool. However, that's what Thor does when he fights Hulk, and he pays for it every time.