Originally posted by lord xyz
OK, first, Socialism is not Communism.second, which do you think is best? Capitalism, (making poeple work for their money) Socialism, (helping eachother) Communism, (keeping everyone the same).
Personally I am for Socialism. thumbup
I'd say you're good to put in socialism, but this poll is sort of hollow, isnt it? What about liberalism, anarchism, social darwinism, maoism, fascism etc?
Originally posted by Bardock42I'd say Socialism is a sort of, 'smart communism'. Or half-capitalism, half-communism.
Capitalism...maybe weak socialism....
Originally posted by rickyduckYeah, I guess you're right.
I'd say you're good to put in socialism, but this poll is sort of hollow, isnt it? What about liberalism, anarchism, social darwinism, maoism, fascism etc?
I see “Socialists” claiming to be different from “Capitalists”. Not at their core they are not. Socialism believes in taking more and more from the Earth and using these “resources” to produce more and more “things” at the expense of the planet. Capitalism believes in taking more and more from the Earth and using these “resources” to produce more and more “things” at the expense of the planet. Socialism believes that this production should be controlled by the few at the centre who dictate the economic pQlicy. Capitalism believes in the survival of the strongest which leads to control by the few at the centre, who dictate economic policy. On the fundamentals, they are two sides of the same thought wave and yet socialism and capitalism (cartelism) are portrayed as opposite dogmas offering an alternative view.
Originally posted by Soleran
I never read of solutions from you Deano just people analyzing "problems." Thats very easy to see a problem, its the people that attack the problems with solutions that make things happen.Maybe thats why your sources tend to not have much action behind them?
Exactly, Deano your argument is weak..
Originally posted by lord xyz
Moving on...Economy-wise, I have to say, Capitalism has been the best so far. I mean, just look at People's Democratic Republic of Korea (North Korea) and The Korean Republic (South Korea). South is a LOT better than North.
What is there to Capitalism besides economy? Well..I could think of one..but ..not really...
Originally posted by Arcana
Capitalism: It works somewhat... sort of... I mean look at the US.Socialism: Would work if we were not all selfish bastards and personally I take Ayn Rand's view on this because altruism is a myth.
Communism: Noble idea... but it ain't happening.
So yea I go with Capitalism... at least it's somewhat working. It's a far sight from perfect, but hey? This ain't a perfect world.
I'd question how well capitalism works... Look at the world in general. Capitalism cannot help but eventually create monopoly-like mega-corps with too much power - and power should be with governments, not with corporations who're not obliged to abide by democratic rules.
Socialism is a good idea. The way people act is a response to the system they live in... so, yeah, capitalism generates selfish bastards because that is what "pays off".
Communism has never happened yet. As a political system it requires worldwide Communism. When Russia went "communistic" it was immediately attacked by 16 foreign states, which is one of the reasons real communism never happened. Not in the uSSR, not in North Korea (goodness, that's a dictatorship) nor is there communism in Cuba. The uSSR functioned on state-capitalism.
And I disagree with you, Bardock. Capitalism thrives on exploitation at its core. That's just the way it works. Make a profit. Capitalism can't FIND anything in anyone... It's merely an economic system that will not necessarly benefit the best - certainly the greediest.
Look at Enron.
So I'm not too comfortable with Capitalism, because it generates monopolies and furthers traits like greed.