She likes Coldplay, Jaden. The worst thing is, this suggests that she likes Coldplay more for the lyrics, which are arguably worse than the toilet bowl worthy music they spew out.
Originally posted by Punkyhermy
I completely disagree.Without the words...the rest is all just noise and sound no matter how pretty. 😬
You have no room to disagree, it's a fact, Punky.
In music, music is primary and lyrics are always secondary, always. If you prefer lyrics, that's fine, but you are still preferring the secondary part. You preferring that part doesn't automatically make it as important as the music. The music is the most important part of music, it's simple logic.
It's music, lyrics are nothing more than a guest. They don't make the music better or worse, they might make you PREFER a whole song more, but they do not enhance or retract from the music. Not only is it impossible, but it's also illogical.
Think.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
In music, music is primary and lyrics are always secondary, always. If you prefer lyrics, that's fine, but you are still preferring the secondary part. You preferring that part doesn't automatically make it as important as the music. The music is the most important part of music, it's simple logic.-AC
this isn't always true, think about pop music. can you remember how the music in a britney spears song goes? probably not, but you'd remember the lyrics after hearing them a few times.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Lyrics have no effect on how good the music is or not.-AC
i think raps the only exception though. otherwise the lyrics themselves, not the actual singing, doesnt make a difference.
Originally posted by Phat J
it depends on what kind of music your listening to. it makes a huge difference with hip hop, or at least it does to me; i'll listen to a rapper because of his lyrics before a good beat, good beats are just a bonus.i think raps the only exception though. otherwise the lyrics themselves, not the actual singing, doesnt make a difference.
Then you are listening for the lyrics. That still doesn't mean the lyrics affect the music.
Before I go on, a comedy interlude.
'this isn't always true, think about pop music. can you remember how the music in a britney spears song goes? probably not, but you'd remember the lyrics after hearing them a few times.'
Anyway, imagine a pizza parlour. They also sell nice garlic bread. No matter how nice the garlic bread is, and how much it has a bearing on you going into that restaurant, it doesn't actually change the pizza at all.
If you prefer the garlic bread, that still doesn't change the pizza. The pizza is the pizza. The garlic bread is additional. It might add to the experience, but not to the pizza.
Why the hell does this require an analogy anyway?
Originally posted by Victor Von DoomAnyway, imagine a pizza parlour. They also sell nice garlic bread. No matter how nice the garlic bread is, and how much it has a bearing on you going into that restaurant, it doesn't actually change the pizza at all.
If you prefer the garlic bread, that still doesn't change the pizza. The pizza is the pizza. The garlic bread is additional. It might add to the experience, but not to the pizza.
Why the hell does this require an analogy anyway?
it doesn't. i didn't say i prefered the lyrics, i was saying they are more important to pop songs than the music is.
and your analogy is pretty poor as it is using two seperate objects to explain a song which contains both lyrics and music.
Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
Then you are listening for the lyrics. That still doesn't mean the lyrics affect the music.Before I go on, a comedy interlude.
Anyway, imagine a pizza parlour. They also sell nice garlic bread. No matter how nice the garlic bread is, and how much it has a bearing on you going into that restaurant, it doesn't actually change the pizza at all.
If you prefer the garlic bread, that still doesn't change the pizza. The pizza is the pizza. The garlic bread is additional. It might add to the experience, but not to the pizza.
Why the hell does this require an analogy anyway?
Originally posted by The Pict
it doesn't. i didn't say i prefered the lyrics, i was saying they are more important to pop songs than the music is.
and your analogy is pretty poor as it is using two seperate objects to explain a song which contains both lyrics and music.
i entirely disagree...pop songs are overwhelmimgly successful because they use catchy melodies (are are marketed to the max)....given that almost all pop songs dont go lyrically beyond..."ooo baby...i love you...ooo...yeah...ooo"
Originally posted by Phat J
i see where your coming from, i just think its different with hip hop. the lyrics are the main medium and reason for listening to it.
Yes, all you've said here is true (for some people). However, that isn't even opposed to the original point, so I'm not sure you're understanding the point in the first place.