Proof that Jesus exists not existed

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Originally posted by Nellinator
I have never seen a Christian school every one on this site so badly as jesusisalive has. It kinda funny how even the skeptical can't even say anything back anymore.

Speaking with JIA is like speaking to the floor. It is only fun if you enjoy yelling at the floor, and sometimes I do. 😉 All the same, the floor does very little, and doesn't really impact a persons life. It can be damned annoying sometimes if it tears though.

Now, JIA has not "schooled" anyone. Becoming annoyed with someone is much different from being "schooled." He hasn't from my observation won an argument against anyone, unless of course an argument can be won by merely ignoring the opposition's stance.

I have never seen him ignore a stance. He simply answers opposition in an unusual manner.

Originally posted by Nellinator
I have never seen him ignore a stance. He simply answers opposition in an unusual manner.

The stance many here have is that the Bible is fiction. If he responds with quotes from it against them, then he is in effect ignoring their stance. He has never supported the Bible against these attacks without using the subject of the debate as evidence of itself, since he has not defended it adequately it is not a viable argument tool. Until he shows it to be fact his arguments based on it are invalid when arguing with those that disagree. I believe in the Bible, but for someone that doesn't JIA has no credibility. He has lost most arguments he has been a part of where opposition does not believe it. You have not won if you do not prove your point against the opposition.

Originally posted by Regret
The stance many here have is that the Bible is fiction. If he responds with quotes from it against them, then he is in effect ignoring their stance. He has never supported the Bible against these attacks without using the subject of the debate as evidence of itself, since he has not defended it adequately it is not a viable argument tool. Until he shows it to be fact his arguments based on it are invalid when arguing with those that disagree. I believe in the Bible, but for someone that doesn't JIA has no credibility. He has lost most arguments he has been a part of where opposition does not believe it. You have not won if you do not prove your point against the opposition.

The Lord Jesus Christ did not call me to prove anything; He called me to preach the gospel (i.e. good news). You want proof that is not my department. I rest confidently and assured that God will vindicate His Word that I have preached and taught relentlessly, in the appointed time. I am not concerned with proving anything, that's not my job. Thank God I do not have to prove that His Word is true. The Word is not dependent on me for anything, I am dependent on God and His Word. 🙂

hmmmm
* putting JesusIsAlive on ignore list*
this IGNORAMUS is not gonna learn.

I PITY You and your ignorant mind. JESUS AND GOD would not want you to be this stupid.

AND YOU ARE WRONG by saying other books are wrong. WRONG, misled, stupid, BLIND and yet still a child in thought.

Jus like eating, people do it differently across the planet, but we still all eat to feed our body. Same goes for most religions, we worship god to feed our souls. BUT we do it differently. How dare someone tell us that it is wrong, just because they do it differently

FINI out!!!!
Jai Shri Ram!!!!

Originally posted by Nellinator
I have never seen a Christian school every one on this site so badly as jesusisalive has. It kinda funny how even the skeptical can't even say anything back anymore.

Haha, school us? Are you even reading his posts, he called my claims all lies, I will just ignore him now but who wants to argue a guy who might need professional help? Let him be and for GODs sake get him some help.

Originally posted by Nellinator
This guy is an unending machine of God. You have to resprect that.

God does not use prograganda tools like the links he posted, if he actually did research on them instead of just looking at side of the story he would realize how bs the book "Islamic Invasion" is. The comics on evolution and also hinduism are shady as well.

Originally posted by Nellinator
This guy is an unending machine of God. You have to resprect that.

Nothing is more exciting than a mindless drone 😱

I think your opinon of him is rather overinflated.
Might I ask why you are so approving of him? may I presume it is because you share a similar opinon of faith?

Originally posted by fini
hmmmm
* putting JesusIsAlive on ignore list*
this IGNORAMUS is not gonna learn.

I PITY You and your ignorant mind. JESUS AND GOD would not want you to be this stupid.

AND YOU ARE WRONG by saying other books are wrong. WRONG, misled, stupid, BLIND and yet still a child in thought.

Jus like eating, people do it differently across the planet, but we still all eat to feed our body. Same goes for most religions, we worship god to feed our souls. BUT we do it differently. How dare someone tell us that it is wrong, just because they do it differently

FINI out!!!!
Jai Shri Ram!!!!

There is only one Truth: His Name is Jesus the Christ of Nazareth.

Originally posted by Alliance
Nothing is more exciting than a mindless drone 😱

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
There is only one Truth: His Name is Jesus the Christ of Nazareth.
I don't believe Jesus ever called himself the Christ...For example, in Matthew 19:17, Jesus responded to one who addressed him as “O good master”, saying: “Why callest thou me good? There is none good but one, that is God.” If he rejected being called “good”,[2] and stated that only God is truly good, he clearly implies that he is not God.

The Jesus who was called Christos, "Anointed," took his title from
Middle-Eastern savior-gods like Adonis and Tammuz, born of the Virgin
Sea-goddess Aphrodite-Maria (Myrrha), or Ishtar-Mari (Hebrew Mariamne).
Earlier biblical versions of the same hero were Joshua son of Nun
(Exodus 33:11), Jehu son of Nimshi, whom Elijah anointed as a sacred
king (1 Kings 19:16), and Yeshua son of Morah, The Book of Enoch said
in the 2nd century B.C.E. that Yeshua or Jesus was the secret name
given by God to the Son of Man (a Persian title), and that it meant
"Yahweh saves."
In northern Israel the name was written Ieu. It was the same as Ieud
or Jeud, the "only-begotten son" dressed in royal robes and sacrificed
by god-king Isra-El. Greek versions of the name were Iasion, Jason, or
Iasus -- the name of one of Demeter's sacrificed consorts, killed by
Father Zeus after the fertility rite that coupled him with his mother.
Iasus signified a healer Therapeuta, as the Greeks called the
Essenes, whose cult groups always included a man with the title of
Christos. The literal meaning of the name was "healing moon-man,"
fitting the Hebrew version of Jesus as a son of Mary, the almah or
"moon maiden."
It seems Jesus was not one person but a composite of many.
http://www.skepticfiles.org/mys3/christ.htm

Originally posted by debbiejo
I don't believe Jesus ever called himself the Christ...For example, in Matthew 19:17, Jesus responded to one who addressed him as “O good master”, saying: “Why callest thou me good? There is none good but one, that is God.” If he rejected being called “good”,[2] and stated that only God is truly good, he clearly implies that he is not God.

The Jesus who was called Christos, "Anointed," took his title from
Middle-Eastern savior-gods like Adonis and Tammuz, born of the Virgin
Sea-goddess Aphrodite-Maria (Myrrha), or Ishtar-Mari (Hebrew Mariamne).
Earlier biblical versions of the same hero were Joshua son of Nun
(Exodus 33:11), Jehu son of Nimshi, whom Elijah anointed as a sacred
king (1 Kings 19:16), and Yeshua son of Morah, The Book of Enoch said
in the 2nd century B.C.E. that Yeshua or Jesus was the secret name
given by God to the Son of Man (a Persian title), and that it meant
"Yahweh saves."
In northern Israel the name was written Ieu. It was the same as Ieud
or Jeud, the "only-begotten son" dressed in royal robes and sacrificed
by god-king Isra-El. Greek versions of the name were Iasion, Jason, or
Iasus -- the name of one of Demeter's sacrificed consorts, killed by
Father Zeus after the fertility rite that coupled him with his mother.
Iasus signified a healer Therapeuta, as the Greeks called the
Essenes, whose cult groups always included a man with the title of
Christos. The literal meaning of the name was "healing moon-man,"
fitting the Hebrew version of Jesus as a son of Mary, the almah or
"moon maiden."
It seems Jesus was not one person but a composite of many.
http://www.skepticfiles.org/mys3/christ.htm

Debbiejo,

Get saved. Once you are saved you will have the abiding presence of the Holy Spirit living on the inside of you.

You are not accurately interpreting God's Word because you are trying to do so WITHOUT the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is the Teacher and He is the underlying Author of the Bible. The Holy Spirit gave divinely inspired the authors to record God Word. You do not have the Holy Spirit living on the inside of your spirit helping you to compare spiritual things with spiritual things. You are comparying "natural" things (your IDEA, AND NOTION of what God is saying) with "spiritual" things (what God is actually saying in His Word).

Father, Son and Holy Ghost?? -----> ghost2

Originally posted by Nellinator
I have never seen a Christian school every one on this site so badly as jesusisalive has. It kinda funny how even the skeptical can't even say anything back anymore.

Dare I ask how you believe he has "schooled" anyone? Now I can't be sure, but for me at least I prefer a measured argument (from an actual person) based upon something approaching fact rather then an endless stream of bible quotes.

But anyway, Debbiojo is correct when it comes to "Christ" - that would not have been part of his name normally, and was likely something added later on - as Christ is not, per say, to be treated like a family name (O'Neil, Smith, Jones etc) - but rather a label or something approaching an honorific.

Debbie...I can use my mystical e-senses to tell that you do not have a (crazy wierd pagan) Holy Ghost in you!. YOU ARE A FRAUD! You come to a different interpretation than mine. This means that you lack the (crazy wierd pagan) holy ghost.

Got brains?

I claim i'm monothiestic but I believe in a holy triumverate! firefirefireph

Originally posted by Alliance
Debbie...I can use my mystical e-senses to tell that you do not have a (crazy wierd pagan) Holy Ghost in you!. YOU ARE A FRAUD! You come to a different interpretation than mine. This means that you lack the (crazy wierd pagan) holy ghost.

Got brains?

I claim i'm monothiestic but I believe in a holy triumverate! firefirefireph

Alliance God will forgive you for your blasphemy because you are ignorant. You are speaking blindly. But just know that the Word issues a stern warning to those who speak against the Holy Spirit.

Mark 3:29
but he who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is subject to eternal condemnation”—

I urge you to refrain from uttering anything at all about the Holy Spirit if you cannot say anything good. Please.

Ooohh... Im trembling in my booties.

It rather suffer eternally and speak the truth than be a coward like yourself.

Debbiejo,

Get saved

I was saved at the age of 9 and then confirmed again at 19...........so, I guess I'm good!! ..........Is your god gonna throw me into hell??........God or what I would like to call god (which btw has a bad rap on what it is or could be) would send me there...........Isn't there a verse that says "once saved, always saved".........OR IS THAT A DOCTRINE????angel:

😆

Get Saved! Its like...Get McDonalds!

Originally posted by debbiejo
I was saved at the age of 9 and then confirmed again at 19...........so, I guess I'm good!! ..........Is your god gonna throw me into hell??........God or what I would like to call god (which btw has a bad rap on what it is or could be) would send me there...........Isn't there a verse that says "once saved, always saved".........OR IS THAT A DOCTRINE????angel:

No saved person can say the false, blasphemous, Bible contradictory things that you say.

1 Corinthians 12:3
Therefore I make known to you that no one speaking by the Spirit of God calls Jesus accursed, and no one can say that Jesus is Lord except by the Holy Spirit.

jesus asked for a beer , told him to take care of his grease tinty hair