Proof that Jesus exists not existed

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Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
No saved person can say the false, blasphemous, Bible contradictory things that you say.

1 Corinthians 12:3
Therefore I make known to you that [B]no one speaking by the Spirit of God calls Jesus accursed, and no one can say that Jesus is Lord except by the Holy Spirit.
[/B]


Hey Look!
I can quote the bible out of context too!

Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, Behold, I am bringing such evil upon Jerusalem and Judah, that whosoever heareth of it, both his ears shall tingle.--2 Kings 21:12

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
No saved person can say the false, blasphemous, Bible contradictory things that you say.

1 Corinthians 12:3
Therefore I make known to you that [B]no one speaking by the Spirit of God calls Jesus accursed, and no one can say that Jesus is Lord except by the Holy Spirit.
[/B]

Here is my blasphemy.

The Bible is one BIG CONTRADICTION written by MEN who claimed that God told them these things.

Is that blasphemous enough for you?

Oh and don't bother to respond b/c I know you will give me your - I am going to burn in hell, blah blah blah, I need to be saved, blah blah blah, I should go ask for forgiveness from God this EXACT moment or I am damned - story anyways. So spare me.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
No saved person can say the false, blasphemous, Bible contradictory things that you say.

1 Corinthians 12:3
Therefore I make known to you that [B]no one speaking by the Spirit of God calls Jesus accursed, and no one can say that Jesus is Lord except by the Holy Spirit.
[/B]

But she was saying similar to you. She was apparently saved before, and thus can be a bad person, because a bad person can be saved (that is be in the Book of lambs, yet not produce good works. In fact produce bad works.)

As to Alliance - he was commenting on the fact you, and Christians, claim to be a monotheistic religion (a single God) - yet seem to worship a Holy Triumvirate - The father, the son and the Holy Spirit. There are three there, not one. Some Christians argue they are a single being (thus merely aspects of one another) others say they are separate. If that is the case you are still worshipping three beings. Not blasphemous at all - rather theological debate. Savvy?

Hey JesusIsAlive:

Have you ever thought about keeping your own doubt, guilt, and judgment to yourself? Because I think that is were the issue actually is...

Me thinks that if you were really happy and content with yourself and your belief system that you would not need to challenge everyone else.

Originally posted by Imperial_Samura
As to Alliance - he was commenting on the fact you, and Christians, claim to be a monotheistic religion (a single God) - yet seem to worship a Holy Triumvirate - The father, the son and the Holy Spirit. There are three there, not one. Some Christians argue they are a single being (thus merely aspects of one another) others say they are separate. If that is the case you are still worshipping three beings. Not blasphemous at all - rather theological debate. Savvy?

Correct! Thank you. 🙂

Originally posted by debbiejo
I was saved at the age of 9 and then confirmed again at 19...........so, I guess I'm good!! ..........Is your god gonna throw me into hell??........God or what I would like to call god (which btw has a bad rap on what it is or could be) would send me there...........Isn't there a verse that says "once saved, always saved".........OR IS THAT A DOCTRINE????angel:

Debbiejo the Lord our God is ONE. The Holy Spirit who dwells in believers gives TRUE believers a kindred spirit if you would, and an inward knowing that we serve the same God. There are others on this forum that I can tell have the same Holy Spirit residing on the inside of them that I have. I am able to tell simply by what they write. It is difficult for me to convey this to you. YOU DO NOT have the Holy Spirit living on the inside of you...It is hard for me to say that but I can tell. I can tell if someone knows Jesus and if they don't simply by what they say to me. There are certain things that sort of alert me to this. True, born again, Holy Spirit indwelt believers that I have encountered would NEVER utter the things that you say about the Bible, Jesus, the Father, the Holy Spirit. Many times when I am listening to someone who genuinely knows Jesus, and the Word pours out of their mouth it as though Christ is speaking through them. I can just tell. Well, Jesus did said,

John 10:27
My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me.

How is it that people that I do not know and whom I have never met can say something about the Bible and it ring true in my spirit? Because they have the SAME Holy Spirit that I have living on the inside of them. But I do not get that same "inward witness" when you write. I get a "check" in my spirit whenever you write because what write is so off base and far from the Bible it is conspicuous.

Peter calls this "kindred spirit or kinship" if you would that I am referring to like precious faith.

2 Peter 1:1
Simon Peter, a bondservant and apostle of Jesus Christ,
To those who have obtained like precious faith with us by the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ:

Jesus told His disciples, "By this all will know that you are My disciples, if you have love for one another."--John 13:35

Debbiejo, it SEEMS that you do not have this love for other Christians of SUPPOSEDLY like precious faith as you. This is how I can tell that there is something noticeably awry or amiss about your claim of being saved. You sound like the world (i.e., unregenerate humanity that has never bowed the knee as it were to Jesus Christ for salvation from their sins.) When I talk to unsaved folk they sound like you. You seem to have more of a kindred spirit with the world than you do with other believers that I can tell. I truly apologize if this offends you but I just want you to get an idea of what I perceive about this whole situation that other people--who have no clue, they just think I am everything but a child of God--don't understand and probably never will.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Debbiejo the Lord our God is ONE. The Holy Spirit who dwells in believers gives TRUE believers a kindred spirit if you would, and an inward knowing that we serve the same God. There are others on this forum that I can tell have the same Holy Spirit residing on the inside of them that I have. I am able to tell simply by what they write. It is difficult for me to convey this to you. YOU DO NOT have the Holy Spirit living on the inside of you...It is hard for me to say that but I can tell. I can tell if someone knows Jesus and if they don't simply by what they say to me. There are certain things that sort of alert me to this. True, born again, Holy Spirit indwelt believers that I have encountered would NEVER utter the things that you say about the Bible, Jesus, the Father, the Holy Spirit. Many times when I am listening to someone who genuinely knows Jesus, and the Word pours out of their mouth it as though Christ is speaking through them. I can just tell. Well, Jesus did said,

[B]John 10:27
My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me.

Are you God? You are making judgments that are not yours to make. You cannot tell what is in a persons heart, you are not God.
How is it that people that I do not know and whom I have never met can say something about the Bible and it ring true in my spirit? Because they have the SAME Holy Spirit that I have living on the inside of them. But I do not get that same "inward witness" when you write. I get a "check" in my spirit whenever you write because what write is so off base and far from the Bible it is conspicuous.

Peter calls this "kindred spirit or kinship" if you would that I am referring to like precious faith.

2 Peter 1:1
Simon Peter, a bondservant and apostle of Jesus Christ,
To those who have obtained like precious faith with us by the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ:

Jesus told His disciples, "By this all will know that you are My disciples, if you have love for one another."--John 13:35

Debbiejo, it SEEMS that you do not have this love for other Christians of SUPPOSEDLY like precious faith as you. This is how I can tell that there is something noticeably awry or amiss about your claim of being saved. You sound like the world (i.e., unregenerate humanity that has never bowed the knee as it were to Jesus Christ for salvation from their sins.) When I talk to unsaved folk they sound like you. You seem to have more of a kindred spirit with the world than you do with other believers that I can tell. I truly apologize if this offends you but I just want you to get an idea of what I perceive about this whole situation that other people--who have no clue, they just think I am everything but a child of God--don't understand and probably never will. [/B]

Jesus told His disciples, "By this all will know that you are My disciples, if you have love for one another."--John 13:35
I have no animosity for you nor any Christian.....I look at their fruits whether it be Buddhist, Pagan, Wicca, Atheist, Agnostic, .....etc.....

You on the other hand must have a thing for me.......Lets worship the crystal together.....222

I will not worship your idol!

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Debbiejo the Lord our God is ONE. The Holy Spirit who dwells in believers gives TRUE believers a kindred spirit if you would, and an inward knowing that we serve the same God. There are others on this forum that I can tell have the same Holy Spirit residing on the inside of them that I have. I am able to tell simply by what they write.

Which means agree with anything you say?

It is difficult for me to convey this to you. YOU DO NOT have the Holy Spirit living on the inside of you...

Don't worry, join the Club.

True, born again, Holy Spirit indwelt believers that I have encountered would NEVER utter the things that you say about the Bible, Jesus, the Father, the Holy Spirit.

Here I was thinking God made people with a little thing known as FREE WILL. It seems one of the sacrifices of being born again is the right to think "hmmm, some things in the Bible don't make sense" or to wonder "why does God act the way he does, why is their suffering etc."

And once again you have failed to address the nature of the Holy Spirit - the fact it isn't monotheistic if you worship three separate entities.

I get a "check" in my spirit whenever you write because what write is so off base and far from the Bible it is conspicuous.

Shame on you Debbiejo. 😉

Originally posted by Debbiejo
I have no animosity for you nor any Christian.....I look at their fruits whether it be Buddhist, Pagan, Wicca, Atheist, Agnostic, .....etc.....

You on the other hand must have a thing for me.......Lets worship the crystal together.....

Ooooo. Hypnotic. Must... donate money.... to religion... of.... the... Crystal. And... Speak... like... parodies of William... Shatner.

Originally posted by Imperial_Samura
Ooooo. Hypnotic. Must... donate money.... to religion... of.... the... Crystal. And... Speak... like... parodies of William... Shatner.

RESIST! RESIST!

Originally posted by Alliance
RESIST! RESIST!

Yes, it probably is best I resist. If I gave money to Debbiejo's crystal religion she might just spend it on a new camera to take even higher definition photos of her feet.

Dont amke me a crsytal terrorist 🥷

I WILL DESTROY YOUR CRYSTAL!

Originally posted by Imperial_Samura
Yes, it probably is best I resist. If I gave money to Debbiejo's crystal religion she might just spend it on a new camera to take even higher definition photos of her feet.
Ohhh you saw that.... 😂

But but they're Holy feet annointed with oil 😉 Or was that spirits.... 🍺

Originally posted by debbiejo
Ohhh you saw that.... 😂

But but they're Holy feet anointed with oil 😉 Or was that spirits.... 🍺

I think a could work with a religion that anointed ones feet with Southern Comfort (with an extra bottle to drink afterwards.) cheers youpi

😆 So Crystalism has become a true religoin then.

Originally posted by Alliance
😆 So Crystalism has become a true religoin then.

It would seem so. The youpi smiley is meant to represent someone in the divine rapture of the crystal (read off their face)

Spineless from the start, sucked into the part
circus comes to town, you play the lead clown
Please, please
spreading his disease, living by his story
Knees, knees
falling to your knees, suffer for his glory
You will

Time for lust, time for lie
time to kiss your life goodbye
Send me money, send me green
Heaven you will meet
Make a contribution
and you'll get a better seat

Bow to Leper Messiah

Marvel at his tricks, need your Sunday fix
blind devotion came, rotting your brain
Chain, chain
Join the endless chain, taken by his glamour
Fame, Fame
Infection is the game, stinking drunk with power
We see

Bow to Leper Messiah

Witchery, weakening
Sees the sheep are gathering
set the trap, hypnotize
now you follow

Lie.

heh-heh, i have another one....

God is the reason we live in dismay
It is his will that this world's suffering
If we do not believe what you foretell
We can expect afterlife will be Hell

You are the one who killed his own son
We are the ones you're blaming it on
Lust was created beginning with hymn
When we indulge we are guilty of sin
Torture our lives with confusion and lies
Mass contradiction, religious facades

BLAME IT ON GOD
BLAME IT ON GOD
BLAME IT ON GOD!
LIAR

Lord of salvation keep looking away
It is your will that this world goes astray
Take us each day from this place you unworthed
Unfulfilled promise of Heaven on Earth

You are the one who killed your own son
We are the ones your hatred is on
Children are dying and this you're content
Where is your profit in what you have left
No intervention from angels above
God is the reason that Satan lives on

BLAME IT ON GOD
BLAME IT ON GOD
BLAME IT ON GOD!
LIAR