Superman vs Juggernaut (no superspeed, no forcefield)

Originally posted by newjak86
I don't see where the area of effect would change it could be as cols as Supes would want it won't effect Juggs 😮

Flight is an advantage so long as flight mixed with something can put the oppenent down, point is no matter what Supes has to get close to fight Juggs if he wants to beat him. And he has to remove his helmet so instead of trying to come up with a million different scenarios of supes doing the same thing for a win let us realize that all Juggs has to do for a win is get a hold of Supes and beat the snot out of him. Yes Supes can win but it will take a lot of what if compared to Juggs getting his hands on him and in this match so bad for Supes in order to win he has to take Cain on at what he does best.

He could flash freeze him. I'm not saying that it would physically hurt him, just limit his motions for a bit in order for him to grab the helmet off his head. DAMNIT this is really testing my patience. 😠 I just want to say SPEEDBLITZ so bad right now!!!! furious

Originally posted by batdude123
He could flash freeze him. I'm not saying that it would physically hurt him, just limit his motions for a bit in order for him to grab the helmet off his head. DAMNIT this is really testing my patience. 😠 I just want to say SPEEDBLITZ so bad right now!!!! furious

I know what you I just want to say Jugg's shield is up. 🙁

Originally posted by newjak86
His body won't feel the effects of freezing is the point. Supes can blow his breath as hard as he wants the point is as soon as he stops so does anything it would do against Juggs just like what Iceman does. even still if he is walking forward the attack should have no effect on him at all.

I know what you I just want to say Jugg's shield is up. 🙁

Well, then is smells like poop for both of us. 🙁 However, the agility of Superman is great. I see him being able to take his cap off 4-5/10 (I was overzealous before with the 6/10).

Originally posted by batdude123
Well, then is smells like poop for both of us. 🙁 However, the agility of Superman is great. I see him being able to take his cap off 4-5/10 (I was overzealous before with the 6/10).

That sounds about right

yeah right supes will fight h2h, and get crushed!!!!

All i have to say in this thread..............is that i hate T-vo with an unholy passion, and would beat up the guy who created it. As well as the guy who decided it would be incharacter for Superman to have played football in highschool.

As much as I want to say it would be a tie, I know that Superman would always find a way to win, therefore he would win even without super speed. Superman has fought really strong guys before and won without using super speed. Superman is considered the father of superhero comic books and is always going to be favored to win no matter what, unless you take away the majority of his abilities.

yea which negates that its superman

Originally posted by gflash
As much as I want to say it would be a tie, I know that Superman would always find a way to win, therefore he would win even without super speed. Superman has fought really strong guys before and won without using super speed. Superman is considered the father of superhero comic books and is always going to be favored to win no matter what, unless you take away the majority of his abilities.

"Superman wold find a way to win"

"Superman has fought really strong guys before"

"Superman will always be favored to win"

First off, the first comment doesn't belong in this forum, watch yourself because you will get ate up for that.

Second, You must not know who the Juggernaut is? He just not some really strong guy, he makes 99% of "really" strong guys look like pre-schoolers. I suggest you check out the Juggernaut Respect Thread, and think about his classic powers before you call him just another "Really Strong Guy".

Third, that also doesn't belong here, I wont bother going into specifics with you, just go check out the forum rules.

Have a good day.

that bullshit above this aside, i don't care about them sayings on here, that doesn't hold any weight, superman has always been rated above juggernaught in strength, no matter how you look about it, taking his speed away just slows down the inedible ending - superman wins hands down

hmm, and how is supes stronger than juggs, pretell???
and what is this incredible ending? where he finnally manages to get his helmut off, and then juggs wins 7/10 or maybe 6/10.

Originally posted by MattDay
that bullshit above this aside, i don't care about them sayings on here, that doesn't hold any weight, superman has always been rated above juggernaught in strength, no matter how you look about it, taking his speed away just slows down the inedible ending - superman wins hands down

Your not so smart, how is Supermans Strength, gonna help him hmm? You also must not know classic Juggs? And since when has Juggernaut Always been below superman in strength, in you own mind maybe?

Well in you own mind you can have superman winning this all you like, but the fact is, Superman gets beat 5-6/10 against an unstoppable, Juggernaut, whose strength level just happens to be, "Incalculable".

Originally posted by newjak86
Iceman has tried similar things but to no effect Juggs truely is a physical beast with few people who can even hope to go toe to toe with him. And seconds is longer than you think when Supes is now at peak human speed.

Not really , Captain America is peak human and he's ran a mile in a minuite (i think)

but caps not a peak human really, just on the juice.

Originally posted by bigbran
but caps not a peak human really, just on the juice.

The 'juice' as you put it placed him at peak human.

juggs would crush supes, its not like hes hulk or anything. nobody knows how strong juggs is, but we do know his minimun is thors level, and his max, could be anything really.
not everybody lifts things all the time like supes, to have strength feats, hell, tyrant doesnt have any strength feats, are we going to put him as weaker than superman?!?!?!?!
if supes can do more than odin, then by all means, hes stronger than juggs. strange could do shit all to juggs, and we all know how ****ing tough strange is. hell the guy withstood a godblast to no effect, supes gets hit by the hammer and screams in anguish.
h2h hand is definately not an option for supes, and with his massive speed reduction, a speed blitz is not an option either.
and supes is just going to be hit by juggs, but still manage to pull his helmut off??!?!?! 🤨 🤨
hmm, ice breath would work right, wrong!!! first of all, if it could blow juggs back, and if it could actully freez him w/o juggs fighting back. you really think juggs is going to stand there for a min while he gets blown( 😆 ) and frozen.(well maybe) hmm and if juggs is moving, NO EFFECT!!!
and another point, if juggs is moving, do you really think supes is going to fly away, no hell try and stopp juggs, and when he realizes its futile, it will be too late!!!
strength- in feats - supes, ya def, in feats supes is a beast, hell hes got the most feats out of anyone.
in reality- prob juggs, hell there is nothing he cant move when he gets mad.
duribilty- completely one sided in juggs favor, when supes gets all his skin melted off, full blasts from thor, shots from odin, massive hits by hulk, full blasts by cyke....etc all to absolutely, no ABSOLUTELY no effect, give me a ring, otherwise deal with it!!!
hmm will flying be an issue... maybe, but it will be a standstill then, or juggs could throw stuff at him, sure supes can use his ice breath and heat vision, or no juggs can jump, wrong idea to fly supes...
heat vision.. hmm, no effect, sure he can move juggs....if he was standing still!!! hell the only effect this will do is to help take off the helmut... if supes is smart enough to do so!!!
bfr- when supes gets desperate, but how will he grab him and do this w/o superspeed. hell thor had to resort to this to juggs, but one prob, thor used his hammer to teleport juggs... one thing supes doesnt have...
agility- no prob, juggs doesnt excactly have the slowest reflexes, he could catch him, of couse.
and of course t-vo- when supes finnaly plays it smart, uses all his powers to get the helmut off, ya supes will get it, but it wont be easy.
stamina- hell if it cums to it, juggs can easily out last supes....

so with all of supes powers, i can see him gets 2 or 3 wins.

Juggernaut is much weaker than Superman, also slower. Yes, even without super speed, Superman is faster. Also, Juggernaut can still feel pain(as evidenced by the fact that D'spayre(SP?) poured liquid metal on him, which "actually hurt" . I'm figuring that his heat vision can do the same to him, which, while Juggernaut is still indestructble, would definitely make this fight a living hell for him. Juggernaut, on the other hand, is not nearly strong enough to overcome Superman's aura. So he would be a punching bag until the fights ends because of some external factor.

when you put juggernaught against superman, you automatically think he aint no match superman... trying to get detailed just slowly goes back to that first idea... dont feel bad, superman is one hard opponent to be vs. with

hey wtf is T-vo

Juggernaut must have the first forcefield. That is what makes him the Juggernaut.

I suppose you meant the one he can charge up the second one.

Than Juggernaut can beat Supes. Since Juggernaut cannot be beaten physically...And being unstoppable is huge advantage.