Superman vs Juggernaut (no superspeed, no forcefield)

Originally posted by Dinalfos
Juggernaut is much weaker than Superman, also slower. Yes, even without super speed, Superman is faster. Also, Juggernaut can still feel pain(as evidenced by the fact that D'spayre(SP?) poured liquid metal on him, which "actually hurt" . I'm figuring that his heat vision can do the same to him, which, while Juggernaut is still indestructble, would definitely make this fight a living hell for him. Juggernaut, on the other hand, is not nearly strong enough to overcome Superman's aura. So he would be a punching bag until the fights ends because of some external factor.

Originally posted by Rewmac
Juggy got normal speed. Juggy got healing factor too. Juggernaut can only feel pain due magic but he can overcome the pain due to his mystical powers.

Liquid metal = not magic.

I'm not saying Superman can injure him, ofcourse. But he's a weakling compared to Supes. And he's also FAR from unstoppable.

Originally posted by Dinalfos
Liquid metal = not magic.

I'm not saying Superman can injure him, ofcourse. But he's a weakling compared to Supes. And he's also FAR from unstoppable.

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Originally posted by bigbran
juggs would crush supes, its not like hes hulk or anything. nobody knows how strong juggs is, but we do know his minimun is thors level, and his max, could be anything really.
not everybody lifts things all the time like supes, to have strength feats, hell, tyrant doesnt have any strength feats, are we going to put him as weaker than superman?!?!?!?!
if supes can do more than odin, then by all means, hes stronger than juggs. strange could do shit all to juggs, and we all know how ****ing tough strange is. hell the guy withstood a godblast to no effect, supes gets hit by the hammer and screams in anguish.
h2h hand is definately not an option for supes, and with his massive speed reduction, a speed blitz is not an option either.
and supes is just going to be hit by juggs, but still manage to pull his helmut off??!?!?! 🤨 🤨
hmm, ice breath would work right, wrong!!! first of all, if it could blow juggs back, and if it could actully freez him w/o juggs fighting back. you really think juggs is going to stand there for a min while he gets blown( 😆 ) and frozen.(well maybe) hmm and if juggs is moving, NO EFFECT!!!
and another point, if juggs is moving, do you really think supes is going to fly away, no hell try and stopp juggs, and when he realizes its futile, it will be too late!!!
strength- in feats - supes, ya def, in feats supes is a beast, hell hes got the most feats out of anyone.
in reality- prob juggs, hell there is nothing he cant move when he gets mad.
duribilty- completely one sided in juggs favor, when supes gets all his skin melted off, full blasts from thor, shots from odin, massive hits by hulk, full blasts by cyke....etc all to absolutely, no ABSOLUTELY no effect, give me a ring, otherwise deal with it!!!
hmm will flying be an issue... maybe, but it will be a standstill then, or juggs could throw stuff at him, sure supes can use his ice breath and heat vision, or no juggs can jump, wrong idea to fly supes...
heat vision.. hmm, no effect, sure he can move juggs....if he was standing still!!! hell the only effect this will do is to help take off the helmut... if supes is smart enough to do so!!!
bfr- when supes gets desperate, but how will he grab him and do this w/o superspeed. hell thor had to resort to this to juggs, but one prob, thor used his hammer to teleport juggs... one thing supes doesnt have...
agility- no prob, juggs doesnt excactly have the slowest reflexes, he could catch him, of couse.
and of course t-vo- when supes finnaly plays it smart, uses all his powers to get the helmut off, ya supes will get it, but it wont be easy.
stamina- hell if it cums to it, juggs can easily out last supes....

so with all of supes powers, i can see him gets 2 or 3 wins.

Originally posted by bigbran
read you sobs, and dinaflos(or whatever) arent you a hulk fan??
anyway, so everybody has to lift something to be strong!!!
oo liquid metal, even though he got all his skin melted off, w/o even a grunt, your reaching.
ooo heat vision is much worse than a godblast, or odin.
this battle went from t-vo to superman can hurt juggs!?!?!?!?! god you must hate juggs!!
anyway his only hope is t-vo and bfr, make sence.

Well, why don't you start writing coherently? It might get people to read your posts for once.

And no, I don't hate Juggs. I'm just trying to reflect your own "debating" techniques.

Originally posted by Dinalfos
Well, why don't you start writing coherently? It might get people to read your posts for once.

And no, I don't hate Juggs. I'm just trying to reflect your own "debating" techniques.

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Originally posted by Apolloknight
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Hello.

Originally posted by Dinalfos
Well, why don't you start writing coherently? It might get people to read your posts for once.

And no, I don't hate Juggs. I'm just trying to reflect your own "debating" techniques.

Originally posted by bigbran
just because you dont want to read them, its not my fault.
ok what is supes going to do, besides bfr, and t-vo?

He's not going to take him down, just pummel him.....Until Cyttorak becomes so bored with Juggy's performance that he decides to take away all his power 😉

Originally posted by Dinalfos
He's not going to take him down, just pummel him.....Until Cyttorak becomes so bored with Juggy's performance that he decides to take away all his power 😉

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Originally posted by Apolloknight
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Originally posted by Dinalfos

Get Dalak here, I would rather debate with him, at least he makes logical points instead of spewing hate all over Juggernaut Threads.

Grow up son, Juggernauts just a comic book character.

Originally posted by Apolloknight
Get Dalak here, I would rather debate with him, at least he makes logical points instead of spewing hate all over Juggernaut Threads.

Grow up son, Juggernauts just a comic book character.

Why don't you say this to Soujaboy? He's the biggest spiter on the whole board.

Anyway, you still can't seem to read. I said it was very well possible that if liquid steel pains him, Superman's eye laser might hurt too. I never said anything about defeat. Anyway, you of all people should be very fond of presenting theory as fact, because that's all you ever do. I don't hate Juggernaut. Hating a comic book character because of fanboy ignorance is quite pathetic.

Originally posted by Apolloknight
But see that where your wrong, you think thats an advantage when its not, Superman has to get his Helmet off first, thats going to be a problem in itself, and if you think Juggs is just gonna stand there and let him then you got some major issues, On top of that, Juggernaut, with common knowledge of superman, knows he has T-vo and that he will be going for his helmet. Think about it.

Superman has to get close to him, nobody wants to be close to the Juggernaut, Thor needed odins help to escape his grip, Juggernaut is the Same Guy that Downs Thing in 2 or 3 punches. Wipes the floor with the X-men in one panel, punched Stranger in the nose, and so much more.

Even with all this, this fight is still 50/50, because supes does have flight, and he is still fairly agile and I do believe he could get his helmet off a few times.

You see, this is how you debate, stop attacking other people on this board for no reason. Do you have some personal issues against me and Souja because we debate with logic?

Remember how I said if Juggernaut where to lose, he would lose, Take a look at my post again, I least I don't go around Screaming "Hulk is the strongest one there is, he can heal from anything!!!!111!" without proof, it took ya boy Dalak to provide that, state his claims as to why he could, and you know what, It made sense when he said it, so i had no choice but to agree that hulk should be able to heal from nearly anything, even if Thor>>>Hulk.

I could go back and quote your last few post on this Thread that Scream Juggernaut hate, but I wont, your a big boy and you know what you said.

So I will say again, stop spewing your juggernaut hate on these boards, and you may become a decent debater.

odin cant hurt juggs, but metal can, your evidence means nothing.

Originally posted by bigbran
odin cant hurt juggs, but metal can, your evidence means nothing.

Thats the thing, It DIDNT hurt him..........

Originally posted by Apolloknight
You see, this is how you debate, stop attacking other people on this board for no reason. Do you have some personal issues against me and Souja because we debate with logic?

Remember how I said if Juggernaut where to lose, he would lose, Take a look at my post again, I least I don't go around Screaming "Hulk is the strongest one there is, he can heal from anything!!!!111!" without proof, it took ya boy Dalak to provide that, state his claims as to why he could, and you know what, It made sense when he said it, so i had no choice but to agree that hulk should be able to heal from nearly anything, even if Thor>>>Hulk.

I could go back and quote your last few post on this Thread that Scream Juggernaut hate, but I wont, your a big boy and you know what you said.

So I will say again, stop spewing your juggernaut hate on these boards, and you may become a decent debater.

Please. Stop trying to spin this. You know full well that you and Soujaboy have been very petty. But the funny thing is, eventhough I don't have a scanner, I was right about everything I said. I've been saying the exact same things as Dalak. And hell, you even refused to accept the scans I DID post. You either "read over" them or ignored them purposely so that you could distort my opinions some more. It's pathetic.

I know you're a Juggernaut fan, but stay reasonable.

Originally posted by Apolloknight
Thats the thing, It DIDNT hurt him..........

It did pain him.

Originally posted by bigbran
odin cant hurt juggs, but metal can, your evidence means nothing.

So now, we're going by the high showings? Hypocrite.

so its called pis, when odin, godblasts, skin melted off, couldnt??!?!?!?