Superman vs Juggernaut (no superspeed, no forcefield)

Started by Juntai19 pages
Juntai Divine Vengeance

Originally posted by Up In Flames
here's my argument: superman is "nearly" invulnerable to all physical attacks but is completely weakened by kryptonite... juggernaut, on the other hand, is completely invulnerable to all sorts of physical attack.
not only that, but his strength is infinite, since his muscular tendons would never fatigue or rupture...
as for t-vo, juggernaut just needs to keep supes from ever touching his helmet at all...
Tell that to Nimrod, he took down Juggs.

Juggs is not completely unstoppable, especially against a character of Superman's calibre.

Like I said- Supes is stronger, faster, smarter and better in pretty much every way.

And he won't tire during this fight, stamina is probably not coming into play at all.

Up In Flames "Man of Granite"

Re: Re: Superman vs Juggernaut (no superspeed, no forcefield)

Originally posted by aliveinboston
This must be a joke. Superman would wipe the floor with Juggernaut.

to date, no one has ever beaten the juggernaut physically... and i'm talking about thor, hulk, collosus, thor again, and countless of other superstrong beings...

bigbran Dead

Originally posted by Juntai
Tell that to Nimrod, he took down Juggs.

Juggs is not completely unstoppable, especially against a character of Superman's calibre.

Like I said- Supes is stronger, faster, smarter and better in pretty much every way.

And he won't tire during this fight, stamina is probably not coming into play at all.

so basically superman has sonic disrupter?!?!?

TheKahn The Dude abides
Originally posted by Juntai
Really? I've seen him do it to Lobo, and that's just off the top without searching or really thinking about it.

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http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/4643/supeslobo0uo.jpg

And here is one of him throwing a moon sized ship (I'd assume throwing Juggy wouldn't be as hard)
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y112/avalonofthewind/moonmover.jpg

Even without his speed, I still think Superman would win this. Hovering 20 feet or higher in the air would keep him well out of Juggernaut's effective offensive range and from there he can take his time to run through his powers to find a way beat Juggy. There is ice breath then bfr, removing Juggy's helmet and then using T-Vo (not even sure if he'd have to take of the damn thing to be honest), or even a sonic attack...

http://img343.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jlaclassified015page023vb.jpg
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http://img460.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jlaclassified015page048eg.jpg
http://img460.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jlaclassified015page057ku.jpg

It's not like Superman has any rush to end the fight quick. He could just take his time until he finds something that would work. Superman 9/10.

Up In Flames "Man of Granite"
Originally posted by bigbran
hey wait, does supes get his heat vision?
juggs 6/10

heat vision aint gonna do squat!

Juntai Divine Vengeance

Originally posted by D-Block
I know Superman and I know one of his weaknesses are magic and I know Superman is not stronger than Juggs and he isn't faster without his superspeed
When was the last time Juggs punched someone across a solar system, or crushed a moon in half in one shot, or throwing a moon sized ship?

Supermans magic weakness will not come into play at all, Juggs can't project it against him. Juggs magic is utilized in a purely physical manifestation.

Juntai Divine Vengeance

Originally posted by bigbran
so basically superman has sonic disrupter?!?!?
Yeah, Superman can whistle or speak at any frequency, even breathe white noise[noise cancelling frequency], also Nimrod outfought Juggs before using the disuptor.

bigbran Dead

Originally posted by Juntai
When was the last time Juggs punched someone across a solar system, or crushed a moon in half in one shot, or throwing a moon sized ship?

Supermans magic weakness will not come into play at all, Juggs can't project it against him. Juggs magic is utilized in a purely physical manifestation.

no marvel guy does that, marvel knows better, and that also means supes is above eternity right?

Juntai Divine Vengeance

Originally posted by bigbran
no marvel guy does that, marvel knows better, and that also means supes is above eternity right?
Don't confuse power with strength. This is a pretty pathetic response here. You get backed into a corner because you know Juggs is nowhere near Superman's level of strength in application, so you resort to "he must be above Eternity", huh?

Feats are what we judge by, Juggs doesn't have any that can match Superman, and Eternity doesn't need them because by appearance we know Eternity plays on a different level than regular cosmics or Earth people.

bigbran Dead

Originally posted by Juntai
Don't confuse power with strength. This is a pretty pathetic response here. You get backed into a corner because you know Juggs is nowhere near Superman's level of strength in application, so you resort to "he must be above Eternity", huh?

Feats are what we judge by, Juggs doesn't have any that can match Superman, and Eternity doesn't need them because by appearance we know Eternity plays on a different level than regular cosmics or Earth people.

no im not in a corner, i used the first person, i could think of. but not everyone lifts thingss all the time. juggs never needs to.
juggs is nowhere nere, supes strength, give me a break. you need strength to ko a god(thor) you need strength to run through anything.
wha gives you the idea that supes is above juggs, feats? feats prove ss is above galactus.

Juntai Divine Vengeance

Originally posted by bigbran
no im not in a corner, i used the first person, i could think of. but not everyone lifts thingss all the time. juggs never needs to.
juggs is nowhere nere, supes strength, give me a break. you need strength to ko a god(thor) you need strength to run through anything.
wha gives you the idea that supes is above juggs, feats? feats prove ss is above galactus.
Except for the feat were Galactus granted him the power, and can take it away. And the feats were amped up heralds do little but to annoy Galactus.

Supes has also knocked out Thor. Are you sure you want to turn this into a who's defeated what characters? Supes wins through that too. Seriously, its just two different levels.

bigbran Dead

Originally posted by Juntai
Except for the feat were Galactus granted him the power, and can take it away. And the feats were amped up heralds do little but to annoy Galactus.

Supes has also knocked out Thor.

just saying juggs isnt way below supes!!

Juntai Divine Vengeance

Originally posted by bigbran
just saying juggs isnt way below supes!!
OK, but prove it now. We know Supes has defeated people far higher on the chain than Juggs ever will, and he has more high end punching power and lifting power than Juggs. He's faster. He's smarter. He has more powers at his disposal. What do you got?

newjak86 I am Beyond Power

Originally posted by Juntai
Except for the feat were Galactus granted him the power, and can take it away. And the feats were amped up heralds do little but to annoy Galactus.

Supes has also knocked out Thor. Are you sure you want to turn this into a who's defeated what characters? Supes wins through that too. Seriously, its just two different levels.

Really didn't Juggs KO thor at one time 😉

Listen Thor is in the same league as Supes and beings that Thor has gone against are way above Supes level as well doesn't mean I would place Thor higher than Supes would you.

Two different levels huh really how can you get something like that.

newjak86 I am Beyond Power

Originally posted by Juntai
OK, but prove it now. We know Supes has defeated people far higher on the chain than Juggs ever will, and he has more high end punching power and lifting power than Juggs. He's faster. He's smarter. He has more powers at his disposal. What do you got?
Juggs has taken on beings that have taken down Doc Strange and has fought Doc Strange before are you telling me that Doc Strange is way below Supes as well now 😉
Listen there is a reason why in his bio it says incalcuable strength buddy. His strength is inmeasurable. He doesn't have lifting feats becuase he as acharacter isn't required to have them name lifting feats for Drakseid. How about Orion hmmm name a few lifting feats for them. Noramlly with characters like those you must take into account what people they facce off agianst to understand where their strength level is. Juggs tangos with Thor and beats on him pretty good. Thor may not be as strong but he is in Supes league of strength and even has feats to back them up.

snoopdogg Big Pimpin

Originally posted by TheKahn
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http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/4643/supeslobo0uo.jpg

And here is one of him throwing a moon sized ship (I'd assume throwing Juggy wouldn't be as hard)
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y112/avalonofthewind/moonmover.jpg

Even without his speed, I still think Superman would win this. Hovering 20 feet or higher in the air would keep him well out of Juggernaut's effective offensive range and from there he can take his time to run through his powers to find a way beat Juggy. There is ice breath then bfr, removing Juggy's helmet and then using T-Vo (not even sure if he'd have to take of the damn thing to be honest), or even a sonic attack...

http://img343.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jlaclassified015page023vb.jpg
http://img343.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jlaclassified015page033rv.jpg
http://img460.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jlaclassified015page048eg.jpg
http://img460.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jlaclassified015page057ku.jpg

It's not like Superman has any rush to end the fight quick. He could just take his time until he finds something that would work. Superman 9/10.

Here is a pretty cool strength feat for Supes. Tosses a ship over a mile long into orbit. It's estimated at 400,000 tons cause a air craft carrier is 100,000 tons and a 1/4 mile long and this ship was over a mile long.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Superman/SupestossinshipAOS473.jpg

Apolloknight Your rule is at an end

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Here is a pretty cool strength feat for Supes. Tosses a ship over a mile long into orbit. It's estimated at 400,000 tons cause a air craft carrier is 100,000 tons and a 1/4 mile long and this ship was over a mile long.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Superman/SupestossinshipAOS473.jpg

Why do you guys keep giving these physical feats, as far as durability is concerned, not to many are above Juggernaut, including Superman.

Juggernauts not gonna have all these incredible feats like superman. Tell me a few of Doomsday's feats will ya, I guess Superman is also Stronger then him. What about Galactus, show me some of his strength feats.

Juggernaut has tangled with the Hulk, who lifted 150 billion tons, Tangled with Thor, who lifted the Midgard Serpent, KO'ed Stranger one punch, and many other things.

I dont care if Superman can Throw 5 Galaxy's, if he doing it Physically, guess what, its not going to Hurt Juggs, You know why, because a person that is arguably equal to Galactus in power gave him the power too.

snoopdogg Big Pimpin

Originally posted by Apolloknight
Why do you guys keep giving these physical feats, as far as durability is concerned, not to many are above Juggernaut, including Superman.

Juggernauts not gonna have all these incredible feats like superman. Tell me a few of Doomsday's feats will ya, I guess Superman is also Stronger then him. What about Galactus, show me some of his strength feats.

Juggernaut has tangled with the Hulk, who lifted 150 billion tons, Tangled with Thor, who lifted the Midgard Serpent, KO'ed Stranger one punch, and many other things.

I dont care if Superman can Throw 5 Galaxy's, if he doing it Physically, guess what, its not going to Hurt Juggs, You know why, because a person that is arguably equal to Galactus in power gave him the power too.

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I like Juggernaut.

Apolloknight Your rule is at an end
Originally posted by snoopdogg
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That all you have to say, I could of said the same thing to all you post, Juggernaut cannot be hurt physically, Are you telling me, Cyttorak, A being whose power is arguably as much as Galactus, cant grant his one avatar complete invulnerability to physical harm?

Thats what you trying to say huh?

snoopdogg Big Pimpin

Originally posted by Apolloknight
That all you have to say, I could of said the same thing to all you post, Juggernaut cannot be hurt physically, Are you telling me, Cyttorak, A being whose power is arguably as much as Galactus, cant grant his one avatar complete invulnerability to physical harm?

Thats what you trying to say huh?

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Look before you leap son.