Ok well I don't have time to read every post but what is T-vo (is supes going to take down jugges with tv) it sounds like something writters made up to makes sure superman is the greatest with is crap. it's stuff like that that make me take the other guys side on verse battles. however supes can take jugges with no forcefield like 4 to 6 times out of ten T-vo or not. supes could heat vision jugs' eyes to make him blind for a while then throw him into space or some place where he could not harm anyone. or if were talking about any juggs other then classic then supes could get lucky and knock him out.
Originally posted by Juntai
^^ This guy knows nothing about Superman. Superman uses up all his energy? You mean . . he puts out the sun? lol. Juggs powers might be magic in the method he obtained them, but in utlization they are still very much physical and thus its magical nature has no bearing on the fight. Supes is faster stronger smarter and better in every way.
Originally posted by K3VIL
Physical strength will not hurt Juggy.
Heat Vision, or Ice Breath?Ain't doing shit, he's UNSTOPPABLE.
Now what Supes can do except for removing the helmet?
Nothing.
Remember this, it's a slugfest, a close quarter, fist to fist fight.
And ALL of Jugg's body is empowered by magic, his whole life force is substained by magical energies, that's why he doesn't need to breath, eat, drink or do what a normal being must do to survive.
Also the T-VO which I suppose is a psychic attack, how powerful it is?
Jugg was able to keep moving against the mind attacks of the exemplar called Bedlam, and he battled Cyttorak in a fight for the control of his mind and his soul during the Eight Day issue, beating him.
Superman can't win.
Thor was able to throw down with Jugg and stun him for brief time but he needed to use Mjolnir's magic and it didn't last much, cause Cyttorak's protection was too strong.
Without magical aid, Superman is screwed, and for those who mentioned Nimrod, Supes isn't going to know that Nimrod using a sonic device to beat Juggs.
Superman lose this fight.Period
Originally posted by AccelTechinaclly in their first fight thor would get dizzy spells from time to time. He wasn't really sick like he had the flu and was weak all the time. He was just as strong as normal until he had a dizzy spell which he lost focues he really wasn't like weak 😉
During 8th day, Cain had seemed to recieve a powerup, not to mention that his first and third fights with Thor were with him at a disadvantage (Thor being sick the first time and Juggs receiving more power the third time). The second time, where neither had a handicap, was where Thor pretty much whupped up on Juggernaut.
Secondly in their seond fight thor used his hammer to negate some of Cain's power so he didn't fight Cain he fought a power downed version for awhile.
In 8th Day he really wasn't stronger or got a power up. He was just more focused then normal and when he does that he draws on as much power as he needs to get the job done. Kinda like how Hulk gets stronger the angier he gets same thing.
Originally posted by newjak86
Techinaclly in their first fight thor would get dizzy spells from time to time. He wasn't really sick like he had the flu and was weak all the time. He was just as strong as normal until he had a dizzy spell which he lost focues he really wasn't like weak 😉Secondly in their seond fight thor used his hammer to negate some of Cain's power so he didn't fight Cain he fought a power downed version for awhile.
In 8th Day he really wasn't stronger or got a power up. He was just more focused then normal and when he does that he draws on as much power as he needs to get the job done. Kinda like how Hulk gets stronger the angier he gets same thing.
Yeah people dont understand the Juggernaut can increase his power through focus, it was never a power up. He was just more focused.
Originally posted by newjak86
Techinaclly in their first fight thor would get dizzy spells from time to time. He wasn't really sick like he had the flu and was weak all the time. He was just as strong as normal until he had a dizzy spell which he lost focues he really wasn't like weak 😉Secondly in their seond fight thor used his hammer to negate some of Cain's power so he didn't fight Cain he fought a power downed version for awhile.
In 8th Day he really wasn't stronger or got a power up. He was just more focused then normal and when he does that he draws on as much power as he needs to get the job done. Kinda like how Hulk gets stronger the angier he gets same thing.
In their third fight, Cain wasn't necessarily concentrating, but he seemed to have been given that power. He even remarked himself that something was making him stronger.
In their second fight, it wasn't a contest of pure strength, but it did involve both using their full abilities, meaning Thor could negate Cain's enchantments like he's probably been able to do before.
Originally posted by Accel
During 8th day, Cain had seemed to recieve a powerup, not to mention that his first and third fights with Thor were with him at a disadvantage (Thor being sick the first time and Juggs receiving more power the third time). The second time, where neither had a handicap, was where Thor pretty much whupped up on Juggernaut.
2nd Fight
Thor didn't depowered Juggernaut while in the castle, he used his hammer to make Jugg's invulnerability less effective, and not much, cause doing his best, Thor was able to barely STUN him, for brief seconds, then Jugg pummeled him with a stone column, the fight
continued, Thor teleported him away again.
3rd Fight
With the 8th Day beginning, Cyttoraks boosted the power of his avatar, which also became conscious of being a real powerful demigod.
Indeed Cain got a power up into this issue, but like said before, he could use the extra energy whenever he wan'ts it's just a matter of will force.
And for the not, Juggy was barely damaged from the Exemplar, and he beat all of them with his bare fists.
Supes isn't doing shit against him.
Now, Thor isn't weak against magical powered enemies, he doesn't have a force field protecting his body, his physical structure is just incredibly tougher and durable, and he's also the son of Gaea and Odin that's why he can resist to both non magical and magical attacks, he's an hybrid with elder god and skyfather blood in his veins.
Anyway, Superman can't counter Jugg's magic, so he's going to even stun him?
Originally posted by AccelExactly Struck when he wasn't struck he seemd to be operating just fine.
In their first fight, yes, Thor was struck with sickness every now and then. The guy had trouble holding up large wooden crates.In their third fight, Cain wasn't necessarily concentrating, but he seemed to have been given that power. He even remarked himself that something was making him stronger.
In their second fight, it wasn't a contest of pure strength, but it did involve both using their full abilities, meaning Thor could negate Cain's enchantments like he's probably been able to do before.
Originally posted by K3VIL
Anyway, Superman can't counter Jugg's magic, so he's going to even stun him?
What magic? The fact that he has magical invulnerability? It won't do squat against Superman. Juggy simply isn't strong enough to hurt him. Period. Please don't pull out the Thor crap. Thor is nowhere near as durable as Superman nor the physical beast that Superman is.
A single punch from Superman can send Juggs to the moon, what is he going to do, fly back?
Freeze breath a all open air around Juggs and punch him into space.
Heat vision all the ground around him and bury him near the earths core. I highly doubt Juggs would be back anytime soon. I'd wager he'd be stuck in there almost indefinitely.
If sonics really do hurt him, then Juggy is going to be in a world of pain, as Superman can create sonich attacks either vocally, through flight, or physically.
There is NO battle here.
Originally posted by jasofisc
Ok well I don't have time to read every post but what is T-vo (is supes going to take down jugges with tv) it sounds like something writters made up to makes sure superman is the greatest with is crap. it's stuff like that that make me take the other guys side on verse battles. however supes can take jugges with no forcefield like 4 to 6 times out of ten T-vo or not. supes could heat vision jugs' eyes to make him blind for a while then throw him into space or some place where he could not harm anyone. or if were talking about any juggs other then classic then supes could get lucky and knock him out.
T-Vo is short for Torquasm-Vao. The best description I could find for it is from this site:http://captain.custard.org/league/php/article.php?id=krypton&mode=glossSections&no=2#torquasm
"An ancient Kryptonian warrior art based on mental exercises. It allows the participant to attain a mental state called the Theta State. It is a consciousness control discipline that lets an adept control his own mind and dreams. It is also used for mental combat when two minds are telepathically linked. Kal-El has had some practise and has even started teaching it to Lois Lane. [SUPERMAN: THE MAN OF STEEL #96]"
However, the way it is portrayed makes it seem like it is actually more than just a type of telepathic attack possibly including reality manipulation and control over the opponents powers. Avalonofthewind, one of our resident Superman experts, could tell you more about it if you are interested. 🙂
Originally posted by bigbranRead the scan slick. All they did was charge the ships batteries while Supes through it into orbit.
hmm, looks like he got some help from the gl's there. 😎
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Superman/SupestossinshipAOS473.jpg
[QUOTE=6842371]Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
What magic? The fact that he has magical invulnerability? It won't do squat against Superman.
invulnerability gives juggernaut the ability to withstand any of superman's physical attacks
Juggy simply isn't strong enough to hurt him. Period.
like i said earlier, juggie's invulnerability means that the tensile strength of his muscles is infinite. therefore, he has the potential to be the strongest comic book character ever
Please don't pull out the Thor crap. Thor is nowhere near as durable as Superman nor the physical beast that Superman is.
thor swings his hammer at light speed, and it doesnt even budge the juggernaut, let alone hurt him. that means that no matter how hard supes hits cain, he aint gonna feel it
A single punch from Superman can send Juggs to the moon, what is he going to do, fly back?
*refer to above*
Freeze breath a all open air around Juggs and punch him into space.
if jugs was vulnerable to extremely low temperatures, then ice man would be able to take him
Heat vision all the ground around him and bury him near the earths core. I highly doubt Juggs would be back anytime soon. I'd wager he'd be stuck in there almost indefinitely.
that aint gonna hurt him either
If sonics really do hurt him, then Juggy is going to be in a world of pain, as Superman can create sonich attacks either vocally, through flight, or physically. [B/]
in case you didnt know, supes is also vulnerable to sonic attacks
[B]There is NO battle here.
then you obviously dont know the juggernaut...
Originally posted by Accelwhats the point of this, unless supes can now negate magic!
In their first fight, yes, Thor was struck with sickness every now and then. The guy had trouble holding up large wooden crates.In their third fight, Cain wasn't necessarily concentrating, but he seemed to have been given that power. He even remarked himself that something was making him stronger.
In their second fight, it wasn't a contest of pure strength, but it did involve both using their full abilities, meaning Thor could negate Cain's enchantments like he's probably been able to do before.
