Alpha Flight vs Teen Titans

Originally posted by King_Mungi
No that was confident Conner always being cocky, that's his character. If the entire Doom Patrol, Teen Titans the Flashes couldn't stop him but Superboy could? na da. Something is wrong.

Like what? she got owened by SUperman, and her evil clone got owned by Wonder Woman. Show me another time where he has had equal superman strength and speed

Conner beat the Teen Titans and Outsiders if I remeber right and the Flashs did handle him for what 3 years or something like that.

She got put down by them after probably all the fan boy complaints about her owing everyone.

Did you read her streak she had?

Since you're not in the tourney, I think it's time you told us who you were going to pick when Khell asked you to be his partner. 🙂

Originally posted by King_Mungi
SHaman banished Blink to the Void and makes her lose her mind 😎

And really those Guardian scans didn't show that he's that great a match in terms of speed. He very nearly gets hit by projectile energy and the stunt takes a lot out of him by his own admission. He's not exactly flying around in controlled flight at the speed of the earth's rotation.

😂

I just saw a mad smilie over one of my posts.

Originally posted by ST0RM SHAD0W
Conner beat the Teen Titans and Outsiders if I remeber right and the Flashs did handle him for what 3 years or something like that.

She got put down by them after probably all the fan boy complaints about her owing everyone.

Did you read her streak she had?

With Brainiac, Lex Luthor and when the team didn't even want to fight SUperboy. Plus you can't even compare the numbers S.Prime fought. Wait you think Superboy could beat the three Flashes as they failed to beat S.Prime. No way would Conner have a better showing than three Flashes

No they explained it last issue is that people like SUperman and co have had their powers for years and know how to hold back. However, she doesn't as they mentioned.

I have her streak the entire series thus far

Originally posted by batdude123
Since you're not in the tourney, I think it's time you told us who you were going to pick when Khell asked you to be his partner. 🙂

Guardian

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Shaman has no will to fight... he's been drained dry...

And really those Guardian scans didn't show that he's that great a match in terms of speed. He very nearly gets hit by projectile energy and the stunt takes a lot out of him by his own admission. He's not exactly flying around in controlled flight at the speed of the earth's rotation.

Actually no he wouldn't, as other sorcessors and demons have tried and failed. The only one who can suck him dry and take away his confidence is Talisman and himself

Actually that;s old Guardian pre-upgrade and actually one of his first apperances. Also no he doesn't have to get nearly hit he can do it whenever, and he has caught up with Northstar using the same trick and killed him in the Master timeline (AF #128-130)

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Actually that;s old Guardian pre-upgrade and actually one of his first apperances. Also no he doesn't have to get nearly hit he can do it whenever, and he has caught up with Northstar using the same trick and killed him in the Master timeline (AF #128-130)

Northstar just happened to be travelling along the latitude of the earth's rotation? Shadowcat can apparently do the same thing.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Guardian

I was actually considering him as well. 😬

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
😐 I know he can do it whenever... but in that scan I'm saying he was nearly hit by projectile energy... I'd imagine heat vision is just as fast and probably faster.

Well Qwrlln Guardian is literally a computer, Madison Jeffries and Forge working together struggled to keep up with him. So his reflexes would be vastly superior to the version I posted the scans of.

His shields have blocked a nucler explosions with Vindicator III, as well as getting hit by full blasts from Vindicator II, Human Torch, Shaman, Windshear, Witchfire merely triggered him to activate his computer mind but he took no physical damage.

edit: Sorry folks I have to go to bed, it's 2am here and I work at 7:30

He'd get disassembled with a touch. 😛

Goodnight.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
With Brainiac, Lex Luthor and when the team didn't even want to fight SUperboy. Plus you can't even compare the numbers S.Prime fought. Wait you think Superboy could beat the three Flashes as they failed to beat S.Prime. No way would Conner have a better showing than three Flashes

No they explained it last issue is that people like SUperman and co have had their powers for years and know how to hold back. However, she doesn't as they mentioned.

I have her streak the entire series thus far

The team didn't want to fight Superboy, but they were.

Wonder Girl even wraped her lasso around Superboy and shocked him with ZEUS' lightning and it didn't do anything to him.

He beat the Teens Titans by himself.

I'm not compairing the numbers Superboy Prime fought to the ones Conner did, but I don't see why he couldn't punch their heads off and what not and take alot of them out too.

I never said he could beat three Flashes.

You said the Flashes couldn't stop Superboy Prime and they did for awhile.

I just looked back at the Supergirl issue too and Wonder Women and Superman didn't own them.

They both got hits in then the Supergirls wanted to fight more then Batman tried to threaten them, but instead of fighting still they just had Wonder Women wrap them in her lasso.

That was not owning.

Originally posted by Devil Lance
Alpha Fight lacks an answer for kid flash 😉

I was thinking the exact same thing, DL.

I don't see what AF has on Kid Flash.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
He'd get disassembled with a touch. 😛

Goodnight.

Good luck trying to touch him with his forcefield, durability and abilities. Aurora can do the exact same thing.

Originally posted by ST0RM SHAD0W
The team didn't want to fight Superboy, but they were.

Wonder Girl even wraped her lasso around Superboy and shocked him with ZEUS' lightning and it didn't do anything to him.

He beat the Teens Titans by himself.

I'm not compairing the numbers Superboy Prime fought to the ones Conner did, but I don't see why he couldn't punch their heads off and what not and take alot of them out too.

I never said he could beat three Flashes.

You said the Flashes couldn't stop Superboy Prime and they did for awhile.

I just looked back at the Supergirl issue too and Wonder Women and Superman didn't own them.

They both got hits in then the Supergirls wanted to fight more then Batman tried to threaten them, but instead of fighting still they just had Wonder Women wrap them in her lasso.

That was not owning.

and? so was their full heart in it? unlikely

the lasso as even you mentioned is dependent on rage. Would she really be full of rage fighting her boyfriend at that time? Not likely

S.Prime broke out of the phantom zone and speedbltized the Flashes...speed blitzed them. They literally had no choice but to send him into the speed force.

As they held back, but that doesn't prove he is Superman level...far from it actually. Once again look at the Teen Titans tie in with the S.Prime fight and you honestly tell me if regular Superboy could do that,

Techincally he did.

No if they have to run him into the speedforce to stop him, yet Superboy faired better yeah bull crap. He still ended up dying in the end anyways. So once again show me proof where he is equal to superman in strength and speed.

Actually they did, they didn't do jack all to them.

No I have the issue, we clearly see the skill and strength difference. Reread Superman speech to her. He comments she isn't stronger, just she has no control while everyone else does and that is what makes her seem stronger at first.

Alpha Flight has the experience to win this battle. Why don't people start matching up who they think would fight and which person would win.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
and? so was their full heart in it? unlikely

the lasso as even you mentioned is dependent on rage. Would she really be full of rage fighting her boyfriend at that time? Not likely

S.Prime broke out of the phantom zone and speedbltized the Flashes...speed blitzed them. They literally had no choice but to send him into the speed force.

As they held back, but that doesn't prove he is Superman level...far from it actually. Once again look at the Teen Titans tie in with the S.Prime fight and you honestly tell me if regular Superboy could do that,

Techincally he did.

No if they have to run him into the speedforce to stop him, yet Superboy faired better yeah bull crap. He still ended up dying in the end anyways. So once again show me proof where he is equal to superman in strength and speed.

Actually they did, they didn't do jack all to them.

No I have the issue, we clearly see the skill and strength difference. Reread Superman speech to her. He comments she isn't stronger, just she has no control while everyone else does and that is what makes her seem stronger at first.

Yeah they were, he almost killed Cyborg.

Wonder Girl even said I have to do this I'm a warrior, putting aside their relationship.

She shocked him twice with Zeus' lighting and it didn't hurt him, the second time though it got him otta the trance, but he still wasn't hurt.

Yeah and they held him there for years, they did take care of him for awhile.

Then when Bart came back after Superboy Prime, Superboy Prime was scared s***less of Bart.

What do a heat vision blast that kills lots of the people who Superboy Prime did?

Yeah, I think he could do that.

Conner and Kara both let out heat vision blasts at each other and Conners proved to be as strong as hers.

Look, she says intresting theory I'd like to see you try it.

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Thats where the fight ends that wasn't a owning.

Originally posted by ST0RM SHAD0W
Yeah they were, he almost killed Cyborg.

Wonder Girl even said I have to do this I'm a warrior, putting aside their relationship.

She shocked him twice with Zeus' lighting and it didn't hurt him, the second time though it got him otta the trance, but he still wasn't hurt.

Yeah and they held him there for years, they did take care of him for awhile.

Then when Bart came back after Superboy Prime, Superboy Prime was scared s***less of Bart.

What do a heat vision blast that kills lots of the people who Superboy Prime did?

Yeah, I think he could do that.

Conner and Kara both let out heat vision blasts at each other and Conners proved to be as strong as hers.

Look, she says intresting theory I'd like to see you try it.

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Thats where the fight ends that wasn't a owning.

No they wern't, and that was Superboy's doing as they were holding back. He nearly killed them because they didn't want to fight him as stated.

Uh huh...but comparing them to the entire Teen Titans army from past to present, JSA, and the Flash you can't even compare the two. How do you figure getting annihilated the first time, and a weakened Superboy as said in Teen Titans just before IC #6 could hold him off? no thanks, as said he barely could fly.

The angeier she is the stronger it is, and it's magic...why wouldn't it work? He doesn't have a magic resitance, neither does Superman.

and? he was proving to much for them, that's why they had to send him into the speed force. He friggin speed blitzed all three, but Conner could keep up? na...it's bull.

he said stay away from me Bart, how was he scared shitless, but do you honestly think Superboy can actually hold a candle to Flash? Show me where Superboy has equal Superman speed and strength

and a second later his jaw is broken, and she didn't even want to fight.

What?

Show them the scans of them just gettinf floored before that speech

Kid Flash. Speedblitz.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Kid Flash. Speedblitz.

That is not going to happen, especially as he is not skilled as Flash and needs momentum just like his mentor.

So you think Wally couldn't take them down either? 🤨

Northstar and Aurora don't hold a dim candle to the Flashes...

I've been reading the bios... a lot of the things it lists seem to be one offs that never happen again...

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
So you think Wally couldn't take them down either? 🤨

Northstar and Aurora don't hold a dim candle to the Flashes...

I've been reading the bios... a lot of the things it lists seem to be one offs that never happen again...

No Wally could as he is more skilled that's my point

Kid Flash they possibly can as no one knows who each other are or their abilities and out of them the twins are the more experienced speedsters.

like?

Basic knowledge. Why wouldn't they know who each other are?

They're also infinitely slower than Kid Flash.
You said this:

Originally posted by King_Mungi
If it's Superman, Wonder Woman and Flash they lose. Unless Shaman puts out a magical spell before then, which I doubt.

Being very experienced at running comparatively slow isn't going to help you win any races.

Mainly the things Shaman does...