Alpha Flight vs Teen Titans

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Basic knowledge. Why wouldn't they know who each other are?

They're also infinitely slower than Kid Flash.
You said this:
In a vs JLA thread. Here we have Superman-lite, WW-lite, and Kid Flash (can you definitively say Wally is faster than Bart or vice versa?) + a whole lot of others.

Being very experienced at running comparatively slow isn't going to help you win any races.

Mainly the things Shaman does...

If you did that, than Shaman could use the spirits to find each persons weaknesses. Basic knowledge doesn't give them strength and weaknesses.

Ummm...yeah I said it, but their not like them at all. Their far weaker and not even close to being as experienced

You nuts? they are capable of going 99% speed of light. Guardian could put an E-M shield around them to reach their full potential. Actually Flash is faster than Bart, so your point?

Why just because he doesn't go through his endless of spells all in one fight so it's void? His pouch has trillions of spells and artifacts they don't go away if he doesn't use them.

Spirits? 🤨

In relative terms as both can go FTL there's really no significance to it. Northstar and Aurora never go anywhere near that fast. In character. They can't take it. There's no prep so why've they got an EM shield around them? Have they ever actually travelled at 0.99c?

His pouch is very Batman. If I'm allowed to use Batman as an adjective.

The whole Flashes need to build momentum thing seems kind of hollow. There are many multiple times they don't show this need.
Do Northstar and Aurora not need to build any momentum at all?

You can't use Batman without the word "pwnage" in the same sentence. 😎

Originally posted by batdude123
You can't use Batman without the word "pwnage" in the same sentence. 😎

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Like my sig? 😱

I already told you it was a horrible piece of shit!!! 😠

😛

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Spirits? 🤨

In relative terms as both can go FTL there's really no significance to it. Northstar and Aurora never go anywhere near that fast. In character.

His pouch is very Batman. If I'm allowed to use Batman as an adjective.

The whole Flashes need to build momentum thing seems kind of hollow. There are many multiple times they don't show this need.
Do Northstar and Aurora not need to build any momentum at all?

Talisman commands the spirits, while SHaman can also ask for their aid. View the Talisman section

They can't? Northstar on the drop of a time went escape velocity to save Paulie, Aurora dogged lightening blasts, Northstar ran mach 18.7 and wasn't pushing himself. They can go that fast, but it would cause the environment and them harm. However, if Guardian gives them an E-M shield than they are capable of doing so.

Doesn't change the fact everything he has ever done or collected is with him at all times.

Never said, they move by manipulate kinetic energy nothing about momentum from what I recall.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Talisman commands the spirits, while SHaman can also ask for their aid. View the Talisman section

They can't? Northstar on the drop of a time went escape velocity to save Paulie, Aurora dogged lightening blasts, Northstar ran mach 18.7 and wasn't pushing himself. They can go that fast, but it would cause the environment and them harm. However, if Guardian gives them an E-M shield than they are capable of doing so.

Doesn't change the fact everything he has ever done or collected is with him at all times.

Never said, they move by manipulate kinetic energy nothing about momentum from what I recall.

Why would Guardian suddenly give them an EM shield...? Have they ever gone 0.99c before?

Anything that moves has momentum, anything that accelerates incurs a change in momentum. The Flashes have a valid excuse - the Speed Force. What's NS and Aurora's...?
Tempest could just freeze the water in their eyes blinding them so they can run (nowhere near) 0.99c right into a wall. 😄

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Why is Talisman involved?

Why would Guardian suddenly give them an EM shield... have they ever gone 0.99c before?

Anything that moves has momentum, anything that accelerates incurs a change in momentum. The Flashes have a valid excuse - the Speed Force. What's NS and Aurora's...?
Tempest could just freeze the water in their eyes blinding them so they can run (nowhere near) 0.99c right into a wall. 😄

She's not, I'm using her as an example as they have the same powers. She can command the spirits, he can ask for their aid as he passed her Spirit Test that allows him to fall forth the spirits for

Basic knowledge of Kid Flash. No, never needed to.

As stated to reach their speed and accelerate they need momentum, so they are not at light speed right off the bat. Unknown, as I said they never mentioned anything about needing momentum. Aurora didn't need momentum to zig zag between the lightening or Northstar to save Paulie from space.

meh! once again look at AF's powers and that's nothing. Actually they have a high tolerance to cold and heat and why would he react faster than them when their obviously far faster and have higher reflexes?

Um, Shaman turns them all into poop.

Guardian does some wierd technological sh*t to all of them.

Tanaraq goes all beastial on them

Blah blah blah

All that said, Teen Titans 10/10. 😐

Originally posted by King_Mungi
She's not, I'm using her as an example as they have the same powers. She can command the spirits, he can ask for their aid as he passed her Spirit Test that allows him to fall forth the spirits for

Basic knowledge of Kid Flash. No, never needed to.

As stated to reach their speed and accelerate they need momentum, so they are not at light speed right off the bat. Unknown, as I said they never mentioned anything about needing momentum. Aurora didn't need momentum to zig zag between the lightening or Northstar to save Paulie from space.

meh! once again look at AF's powers and that's nothing. Actually they have a high tolerance to cold and heat and why would he react faster than them when their obviously far faster and have higher reflexes?

Spirits? Seems kind of preppish.

How does basic knowledge of Kid Flash translate to EM shields for Northstar and Aurora and how would he keep up shielding on them if they were to move that fast. Never need to... i.e. they never have.

Even if they did they'd still be 2,997,924.58 m / s slower than lightspeed. Fast but far slower than any Flash worth a dime.

Why is it somehow so easy to say that the Flashes need momentum when they've shown they don't and have a valid reason not to, while NS and Aurora have no such reason and yet they don't need momentum? 🤨

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
This is fun.

Spirits? Seems kind of preppish.

How does basic knowledge of Kid Flash translate to EM shields for Northstar and Aurora and how would he keep up shielding on them if they were to move that fast. Never need to... i.e. they never have.

Even if they did they'd still be 2,997,924.58 m / s slower than lightspeed. Fast but far slower than any Flash worth a dime.

Why is it somehow so easy to say that the Flashes need momentum when they've shown they don't and have a valid reason not to, while NS and Aurora have no such reason and yet they don't need momentum? 🤨

There always around, and constantly feed Talisman information of events all around the world.

Well the way you first said it they would know their strengths and weakness and knowing Kid Flash can go light speed would be the most logical course especially with his computer mind. They stay intact he doesn't need constant regulation of them, their just like his Plasma funnel prison. Actually even the handbooks state they never needed to.

Once again Kid Flash isn't that fast from the start, he needs to build up quite the momentum to even reach light speed

I never said they don't need momentum, I never even said they were faster. Just that Kid Flash needs momentum to reach his top speed allowing Aurora and Northstar to compete with him.

😐 But they can't compete with him even at top speed.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
😐 But they can't compete with him even at top speed.

I never said they could once again, but like I mentioned as well Aurora and Northstar havn't been shown to need momentum for their speed.

And the Flashes have been shown many times not to need momentum either.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
And the Flashes have been shown many times not to need momentum either.

Except they clearly stated they do in fact need it though.

You seem to be overemphasising the whole momentum thing. If Flash can do this then it really can't be all that important.

That has been discussed, he ran from Washington to there building his momentum. He didn't just instantly start off like that, and once again that's not Kid Flash.

😕 He had to stop and start, stop and start. "One at a time sometimes two."

Not necessairly actually, I have seen Flash drop people off and still keep running.

yea, but he would have to run backwards. He starts, stops, starts, stops....he goes so fast that it doesnt even matter 😬