Superman (vs) Ego The living Planet

Started by darthgoober15 pages

Originally posted by Juntai
So him getting beaten with blunt force by Galactus, Bill, and Gladiator are all PIS or jobbing moments then?

Galactus...absolutely not. After all, he'd already been through a massive battle with Big G. Beta and Glads on the other hand were obviously PIS/jobbing moments due to the fact that he's shown the ability to withstand far more damage than they dealt out.

Originally posted by Juntai
So him getting beaten with blunt force by Galactus, Bill, and Gladiator are all PIS or jobbing moments then?

I didn't read the Gladiator fight, but Ego lost to Thor due to omni-directional planetary storms and a slew of other exotic powers. Bill won because he was absorbing Ego's life force.

Originally posted by The Problem
I didn't read the Gladiator fight, but Ego lost to Thor due to omni-directional planetary storms and a slew of other exotic powers. Bill won because he was absorbing Ego's life force.
Bill was doing some whirrling in their first encounter. He let him out of that move because he was defeated, and Ego attacked again later.

Bill hit him with a meteor to make him submit. Galactus hit him with a meteor at the end of their fight. Gladiator punched him with his fists. The scans are already in the thread.

Originally posted by batdude123
Well, there's Thor, and there's:

Dr. Strange who one-shotted a weakened Galactus (and I know about the one where Galactus got up a bit later, this is a different instance all together)

When?

Originally posted by batdude123

Guardian

Don't you mean the entire Alpha Flight team, PLUS Herc and Her?
Originally posted by batdude123

The Fantastic Four (Yep, Reed sling-shotted Ben into Galactus' eye, I believe)

Was that the ONLY thing that happened in that entire battle? I honestly don't recall the FF ever driving off Galactus without a plot device. And did that shot actually BEAT Galactus?
Originally posted by batdude123

Sentry (😛)

Do you REALLY want to list that to Sentry's credit?
Originally posted by batdude123

High Evolutionary

Not a herald level character.
Originally posted by batdude123

Quasar gave him fits.

But did he BEAT im, or drive him off because Galactus knew that they'd probably be destroyed?

Originally posted by batdude123

A [b]hungry
Galactus fled.

Unless you actually think Ego can destroy a universe. [/B]


And a HUNGRY Galactus is still more powerful than Supes.

Originally posted by batdude123

Gladiator?

Oh right, I'm sorry. You're calling that PIS based on one other instance of him fighting off a hungry Galactus. My bad.


Two instances actually, one loss and one win. And I'm also basing it off the fact that Ego's shown the ability to heal that kind of damage at will outside of his fights with Galactus.

Originally posted by Juntai
Bill was doing some whirrling in their first encounter. He let him out of that move because he was defeated, and Ego attacked again later.

Bill hit him with a meteor to make him submit. Galactus hit him with a meteor at the end of their fight. Gladiator punched him with his fists. The scans are already in the thread.

Didn't Bill escape through a dimensional portal, and return to absorb Ego's life force?

Originally posted by The Problem
Didn't Bill escape through a dimensional portal, and return to absorb Ego's life force?
Originally posted by Juntai
Beta Ray Bill causes Ego to get hit with a comet.
http://img153.imageshack.us/my.php?image=korvacquestpart02thoranep2.jpg
And he is defeated "You have triumphed again."
http://img300.imageshack.us/my.php?image=korvacquestpart02thorannual1657qi2.jpg
And the blow weakned him to such a condition he could no longer fight.

Hmm, I wonder if Gladiator, or Superman could hit that hard...

Originally posted by Juntai
Wait, maybe. . .

http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/3034/ego067lu.jpg
Oh yah, punches from Gladiator can blunt force trauma him too.

Originally posted by Juntai
Was he distracted when he got hit by comets this time?
http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/6739/galactusblast6wu3.jpg

This is what, the third or so time that blunt force trauma has proven enough to defeat Ego?
And you don't think Supes can do that?

And people think this loser can beat Mogo? I lol'd.

Originally posted by Validus
And people think this loser can beat Mogo? I lol'd.
Was that actually a thread?

Originally posted by darthgoober
When?

http://img340.imageshack.us/my.php?image=galatt1vc.jpg

Originally posted by darthgoober
Don't you mean the entire Alpha Flight team, PLUS Herc and Her?

They held him off.

Then James stepped in and owned him.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Was that the ONLY thing that happened in that entire battle? I honestly don't recall the FF ever driving off Galactus without a plot device. And did that shot actually BEAT Galactus?

Galactus fell over and was KO'd.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Do you REALLY want to list that to Sentry's credit?

Did you not see the "😛" smilie?

Originally posted by darthgoober
Not a herald level character.

That wasn't the stipulation. You asked for Earth-based characters, and he's an Earth-based character.

Regardless, I'm not exactly sure he's above herald level. I seem to recall Apocalypse stalemating him.

Originally posted by darthgoober
But did he BEAT im, or drive him off because Galactus knew that they'd probably be destroyed?

Galactus couldn't do anything to beat Wendell at all. It was more like a stalemate.

Originally posted by darthgoober
And a HUNGRY Galactus is still more powerful than Supes.

In some showings, yes, and in some instances, not at all. There are other characters who are "weaker" than Galactus but have beaten him as well that I didn't mention.

Ego drove him off, yet BRB, Thor, Surfer, and Gladiator all took Ego out/overpowered him one way or another.

Two things are certain:

1. Galactus has a pretty long list of embarrassing defeats throughout his history.

2. You're overrating the shit outta Ego.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Two instances actually, one loss and one win. And I'm also basing it off the fact that Ego's shown the ability to heal that kind of damage at will outside of his fights with Galactus.

He apparently can't heal when something is smashing into him at near light speed, which is to be expected considering that's too fast for him to do anything about it.

Originally posted by The Problem
I didn't read the Gladiator fight, but Ego lost to Thor due to omni-directional planetary storms and a slew of other exotic powers.

I don't see how that context is supposed to make it less embarrassing for a "Galactus-level" being. haermm

Originally posted by darthgoober
Yes but none of the ways he listed could logically take down a non jobbing Ego.

Freezing from the inside (brain freeze), plowing through him a few times at FTL speeds, fully scorching him (since Ego can't seem to really be able to take a sun and NO..what you showed was hilarious..a sheet of ice>suns? PIS all the way) tossing tons of asteroids at him.

Good ol' T-vo should do the job nicely as well. A sundip (since they'll be fighting in space..it's not bfr..and Superman can easily AND quickly return under his own power) and he would totally demolish Ego.

Originally posted by darthgoober
mean that the scans I posted that showed Ego to be on par with Galactus's don't prove that he's in Supes's league 😕 ?

Actually, you're making Galan look worse instead of the other way around.

Originally posted by darthgoober
what will his freezing Ego accomplish exactly? As I've already shown Ego can create and withstand a MASSIVE amount of ice.

On his surface yes...but having it's brain frozen would be an instant KO.

Originally posted by darthgoober
that the Elementals are capable of EVERYTHING that Ego is?

The fact that Earthly forces can recreate everything that Ego can and they are the embodiment of this?

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Actually, you're making Galan look worse instead of the other way around.

It's hilarious he doesn't realize that.

Originally posted by batdude123
http://img340.imageshack.us/my.php?image=galatt1vc.jpg

Then unlike Ego, Strange didn't do it on his own since Galactus was busy with Iron Man and Thor according to your scan,

Originally posted by batdude123
They held him off.

Then James stepped in and owned him.


So then unlike Ego, he didn't do it on his own? In fact if I remember right, Guardian was able to take him out by messing with his internal energies(unlike Ego, who actually matched Galactus's power).

Originally posted by batdude123
Galactus fell over and was KO'd.

When was this?

Originally posted by batdude123
That wasn't the stipulation. You asked for Earth-based characters, and he's an Earth-based character.

Regardless, I'm not exactly sure he's above herald level. I seem to recall Apocalypse stalemating him.


Well when you said Earth based characters, I assumed you meant guys that are actually in Supes league, not a tier above it. And I'm pretty sure that he's above herald level. Jobbing once to Apoc doesn't really mean much.

Originally posted by batdude123
Galactus couldn't do anything to beat Wendell at all. It was more like a stalemate.

I'd have to see that for myself, cause it sounds more than a little fishy. I'm not trying to discredit you or anything like that though(so don't think I am) it just seems that there was probably an extenuating circumstance in that instance.

Originally posted by batdude123
Ego drove him off, yet BRB, Thor, Surfer, and Gladiator all took Ego out/overpowered him one way or another.

Ok can you HONESTLY take BRB winning with a single meteor seriously when you look at these...

http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/8964/thor22611xg1.jpg
http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/2222/thor22612sl9.jpg

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/1599/galactusblast4ii6.jpg
http://img451.imageshack.us/img451/4897/galactusblast5rw9.jpg

And again, Ego was involved in combat with Galactus when Thor "overpowered" him. Surfer NEVER overpowered Ego, he just reactivated Galactus's propulsion device.

Originally posted by batdude123

Two things are certain:

1. Galactus has a pretty long list of embarrassing defeats throughout his history.

2. You're overrating the shit outta Ego.


I'll agree with you on the first one, Galactus is a cosmic jobber. But the fact of the matter is that Ego has shown TWICE to be on Big G's level when Galactus was trying A LOT harder than he does against people from Earth, so his loses to herald level guys seem to fall under the same heading as Galactus's do... BULLSHIT.

As I've pointed out before, Supes has an extensive record of being tagged by people far slower than he is, but do we take that into consideration when there's a Hulk vs Supes thread?

Originally posted by darthgoober
Then unlike Ego, Strange didn't do it on his own since Galactus was busy with Iron Man and Thor according to your scan,

So then unlike Ego, he didn't do it on his own? In fact if I remember right, Guardian was able to take him out by messing with his internal energies(unlike Ego, who actually matched Galactus's power).

When was this?

Well when you said Earth based characters, I assumed you meant guys that are actually in Supes league, not a tier above it. And I'm pretty sure that he's above herald level. Jobbing once to Apoc doesn't really mean much.

I'd have to see that for myself, cause it sounds more than a little fishy. I'm not trying to discredit you or anything like that though(so don't think I am) it just seems that there was probably an extenuating circumstance in that instance.

Ok can you HONESTLY take BRB winning with a single meteor seriously when you look at these...

http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/8964/thor22611xg1.jpg
http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/2222/thor22612sl9.jpg

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/1599/galactusblast4ii6.jpg
http://img451.imageshack.us/img451/4897/galactusblast5rw9.jpg

And again, Ego was involved in combat with Galactus when Thor "overpowered" him. Surfer NEVER overpowered Ego, he just reactivated Galactus's propulsion device.

I'll agree with you on the first one, Galactus is a cosmic jobber. But the fact of the matter is that Ego has shown TWICE to be on Big G's level when Galactus was trying A LOT harder than he does against people from Earth, so his loses to herald level guys seem to fall under the same heading as Galactus's do... BULLSHIT.

As I've pointed out before, Supes has an extensive record of being tagged by people far slower than he is, but do we take that into consideration when there's a Hulk vs Supes thread?

Thor and Iron Man weren't doing anything to hurt Galactus though.

Again, they held him off then Mac solo'd him. It wasn't a combined effort to take him down.

It was in an old FF comic I have stashed away.

High E... nothing really to prove he's out and out more powerful than Supes.

I saw the scans somewhere in a thread involving Quasar. 😬 Sorry I can't be more specific.

I should ask you the same question except in reverse. The Galactus showing doesn't erase his losses to herald levelers. I see that fight as yet another low showing for a hungry Galactus. Nothing more, really...

And you can't just write off Ego's other showings as bullshit, because it's happened on more than one occasion.

And as for Surfer taking out Ego with the propulsion device... ask yourself this question. Do you see the propulsion device taking down Big G as well? Doubt it.

And yes, I think we could say Superman can be tagged by slower characters IF he had almost no feats to back up the fact that he has superior reflexes, speed, reaction time, etc. But that's not the case here.

Ego can be beaten by Superman. If you look at his entire history, it would be ridiculous to say otherwise. And that's really all this comes down to.

Ego got beat by a weak Galactus in their first battle...

Also, Ego fought two Celestials at once, and did good against both of them.

Either way, Ego easily has the power to defeat Superman, but I'm not certain he can... meh.

Also, saw that Strange scan fatnude posted... ya, Strange did nothing to Galactus. He was also incredibly weak, and... um... Strange didn't finish him... I'm not even going to say who did.
Also, in that comic, Thor's lightning, and Iron Man was affecting Galactus, so ya...

Originally posted by Tyrant
Ego got beat by a weak Galactus in their first battle...

Also, Ego fought two Celestials at once, and did good against both of them.

Either way, Ego easily has the power to defeat Superman, but I'm not certain he can... meh.

Also, saw that Strange scan fatnude posted... ya, Strange did nothing to Galactus. He was also incredibly weak, and... um... Strange didn't finish him... I'm not even going to say who did.
Also, in that comic, Thor's lightning, and Iron Man was affecting Galactus, so ya...

Then maybe this is the scan I was looking for?

http://img340.imageshack.us/my.php?image=galacko5uf.jpg

Originally posted by batdude123
Then maybe this is the scan I was looking for?

http://img340.imageshack.us/my.php?image=galacko5uf.jpg

Again, Strange did nothing.
I'm not even going to explain it, I'll just add the next page.

I like how he brought out a competitive spirit in Galactus, seems like he wanted to spar with Dr Strange. lol.

Originally posted by Juntai
I like how he brought out a competitive spirit in Galactus, seems like he wanted to spar with Dr Strange. lol.
Galactus took him out in the next page or so as well.

Just felt like adding that in.

Didn't Ego stalemate Galactus??