Superman (vs) Ego The living Planet

Started by Juntai15 pages

Originally posted by darthgoober
So you're now claiming that Supes has a higher damage out put than Galactus?!

And Ego wouldn't HAVE to use gravity to hurl Supes back, he could use pure destructive force as he does here to throw back Galactus AND his ship...
http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/4909/galactusblast3an8.jpg

Or he could use things magnetic fields...
http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/517/silversurfer198902209yd1.jpg

And the only things I'm outright calling PIS on are things that have been DIRECTLY contradicted on panel. Supes and Flash have been tagged plenty by people with below lightspeed movement, but do you really think they'd have a tough fight on his hand against the Hulk(who has a record of tagging speedsters).

No, I'm saying he can have higher damage output than a few meteorites like you showed in the scan. Galactus wasn't exactly in galaxy annihilation mode anywhere here.

Cool, do you think either of those would hold Superman more than a black hole would?
Needless to say, he is able to hold Sufers board, because some writers write Surfer skin as metallic. Magneto and others have done the same to him. Superman doesn't have the weakness of being covered in metal.

Your desperation is increasingly evident as the pages drag on.
"That's PIS" "That's BS" "That doesn't count" "That shouldn't count" "That's irrelivent".

Originally posted by batdude123
Regardless, according to your logic, that should still make it enormous PIS considering Galactus>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Mjolnir.

Funny.

Originally posted by darthgoober
In my mind it IS a massive amount of PIS(I thought I'd already said that)
Originally posted by darthgoober
I'm calling it on 2 of them(Glads and Beta) because both instances go against Ego's established power. If you want to accept Thor that's fine(as I said, it has SOME foundation even if I disagree with it), but since Thor never actually BEAT Ego, and Thor possesses a level of control over the weather that Supes lacks it's kinda irrelevant.

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It's not that Thor beat him, it's the fact that he overpowered Ego's control. That doesn't exactly scream Galactus level power in my book, especially considering he has plenty of other showings to contradict his showing against Big G.

Anyway, at best you're saying that a living planet giving GALACTUS a good fight makes more sense than being beaten by Glads, Beta Ray Bill, and being overpowered by Thor.

Sorry, but 😆 at this whole thing.

Originally posted by Juntai
No, I'm saying he can have higher damage output than a few meteorites like you showed in the scan. Galactus wasn't exactly in galaxy annihilation mode anywhere here.

Cool, do you think either of those would hold Superman more than a black hole would?
Needless to say, he is able to hold Sufers board, because some writers write Surfer skin as metallic. Magneto and others have done the same to him. Superman doesn't have the weakness of being covered in metal.

Your desperation is increasingly evident as the pages drag on.
"That's PIS" "That's BS" "That doesn't count" "That shouldn't count" "That's irrelivent".


What have I said shouldn't count? Punches from Gladiator, and a comet from Beta Ray Bill. Both of those things have been established on panel as being well within Ego's power to handle. And given Supes difficulty against Dr. Polaris, I'd say that Supes IS vulnerable to magnetic fields.

The funny thing, is that you say that I'M desperate, but you still haven't put forth a single way that Supes could take out Ego that Ego hasn't already shown the ability to counter. Now if Ego fights like a moron and "forgets" to use his powers against Supes like he did against Glads and Beta then Supes absolutely has a shot of winning. But then again, if Supes fought Hulk and "forgets" to use his full range of powers against Hulk, then Hulk has a shot of winning to. And since Supes forgets powers on a far more regular basis than Ego does...

Originally posted by batdude123
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It's not that Thor beat him, it's the fact that he overpowered Ego's control. That doesn't exactly scream Galactus level power in my book, especially considering he has plenty of other showings to contradict his showing against Big G.

Anyway, at best you're saying that a living planet giving GALACTUS a good fight makes more sense than being beaten by Glads, Beta Ray Bill, and being overpowered by Thor.

Sorry, but 😆 at this whole thing.


I meant that I'm not screaming PIS as an excuse for Thor, not that I don't personally believe it.

And if Ego were JUST a planet, he WOULD be closer to Thor and Glads than he was to Galactus. But since Ego is a LIVING planet, and it's been established that he's the most powerful of the Elder's of the Universe(all of whom trump the average herald level character in power), it seems more than reasonable to say that he's more on par with Galactus than with Thor.

Originally posted by darthgoober
And given Supes difficulty against Dr. Polaris, I'd say that Supes IS vulnerable to magnetic fields.

Difficulty? Have you read Strange Attractions? Lois flat out states that Superman could've taken out Neal with ease, but Clark was trying to talk him out of his psychotic episode and was giving Dr. Polaris a chance to surrender. And if you notice, nothing Neal did was able to really hurt Supes.

And as for the showing in Terror Incognita... meh, at that point, he absorbed all the electromagnetic energy out of the south pole and was basically a walking singularity. He was owning the league. Even then though, all he did was smack Superman with a submarine, which really didn't do anything at all.

🙂

ego wins.

Originally posted by darthgoober
And if Ego were JUST a planet, he WOULD be closer to Thor and Glads than he was to Galactus. But since Ego is a LIVING planet, and it's been established that he's the most powerful of the Elder's of the Universe(all of whom trump the average herald level character in power), it seems more than reasonable to say that he's more on par with Galactus than with Thor.

Even though the majority of Ego's showings say you're wrong.

Originally posted by batdude123
And as for the showing in Terror Incognita... meh, at that point, he absorbed all the electromagnetic energy out of the south pole and was basically a walking singularity. He was owning the league. Even then though, all he did was smack Superman with a submarine, which really didn't do anything at all.

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And Ego ALWAYS has the power of the all the electomagnetic energy out of his south and north poles at his disposal, along with all the electromagnetic inbetween.

Originally posted by batdude123
Even though the majority of Ego's showings say you're wrong.

What majority of his showings? Name an instance other than Beta or Glads that suggest I'm wrong. Losing via plot device or help from Galactus, Herc, and Firelord doesn't suggest anything of the kind.

Originally posted by darthgoober
And Ego ALWAYS has the power of the all the electomagnetic energy out of his south and north poles at his disposal, along with all the electromagnetic inbetween.

The fact that he had to use scrap metal in order to fight Superman doesn't suggest a superiority to Clark in anyway, shape, or form.

For all that, he ended up being owned by Plastic Man anyway.

Originally posted by batdude123
The fact that he had to use scrap metal in order to fight Superman doesn't suggest a superiority to Clark in anyway, shape, or form.

For all that, he ended up being owned by Plastic Man anyway.


Wasn't there an instance of him deflecting light away from Supes to depower him? And Ego has far more effective methods of combating Supes than scap metal.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Wasn't there an instance of him deflecting light away from Supes to depower him?
Originally posted by batdude123
Difficulty? Have you read Strange Attractions? [b]Lois flat out states that Superman could've taken out Neal with ease, but Clark was trying to talk him out of his psychotic episode and was giving Dr. Polaris a chance to surrender. And if you notice, nothing Neal did was able to really hurt Supes. [/B]
Originally posted by darthgoober
And Ego has far more effective methods of combating Supes than scap metal.

The scrap metal didn’t do anything at all. Besides, this was a little off topic tangent I decided to take when you stated Dr. Polaris gives Superman a shit load of trouble.

Originally posted by batdude123
The scrap metal didn’t do anything at all. Besides, this was a little off topic tangent I decided to take when you stated Dr. Polaris gives Superman a shit load of trouble.

So Supes only had trouble because he wasn't focused on winning the fight... I can accept that. It's kinda like Ego losing to Beta when he was distracted.

Ego would win. Barring PIS moments, Ego should have the power and resources to pwn superman.

Originally posted by darthgoober
What majority of his showings? Name an instance other than Beta or Glads that suggest I'm wrong.

Thor showing more power than Ego in the controlling of a vital part of himself? Just because he didn't finish off Ego doesn't make it less embarrassing for a supposed Galactus-level being. 😂

Three of a kind beats a high card every time.

Originally posted by darthgoober
So Supes only had trouble because he wasn't focused on winning the fight... I can accept that. It's kinda like Ego losing to Beta when he was distracted.
Was he distracted when he got hit by comets this time?
http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/6739/galactusblast6wu3.jpg

This is what, the third or so time that blunt force trauma has proven enough to defeat Ego?
And you don't think Supes can do that?

Originally posted by darthgoober
So Supes only had trouble because he wasn't focused on winning the fight... I can accept that. It's kinda like Ego losing to Beta when he was distracted.

The only difference is... Superman still ended up winning, whereas Ego was pwned by a meteor.

Easy win for Superman, He flies through Ego multiples of the speed of light smashing the brain of Ego.

Let's ask outselves this. What does Ego have at his disposal, and is it enough to put superman down for the count.

Originally posted by Juntai
Was he distracted when he got hit by comets this time?
http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/6739/galactusblast6wu3.jpg

This is what, the third or so time that blunt force trauma has proven enough to defeat Ego?
And you don't think Supes can do that?

It seems that Champion and Ego have a lot in common. 😂

Their actual showings are a lot less impressive than their hype.