Superman (vs) Ego The living Planet

Started by Badabing15 pages

Originally posted by darthgoober
Let's see....

1. 1. Create an army of beings that are Supes equal to combat him.
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/3972/antibodiesmz0.jpg

2. Change his entire landscape into K-Nite.
http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/518/mindreadingandtransmutaok9.jpg

3. Absorb all the solar energy from Supes.
I gotta look though my library, but I'll be back with this one soon.

4. Use magnetic fields the same way that Dr. Polaris did.
http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/517/silversurfer198902209yd1.jpg

jawdrop Those were some serious scans.

Originally posted by Juntai
http://img244.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sm20918ol5.jpg

Yes but as I've already shown, those types of disturbances won't put down a NON jobbing Ego...

http://img360.imageshack.us/img360/4743/silversurfer198902212fm4.jpg
http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/5130/silversurfer198902213rn7.jpg

http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/518/mindreadingandtransmutaok9.jpg

A punch will crack a moon in half. Nothing to suggest he's maxing either. While it might not destroy, Ego would certainly feel it.
http://img67.imageshack.us/my.php?image=smoonsplittingstrengthvs4.jpg

I'll only say this once... if Gladiator, Thor, and Beta Ray Bill can all defeat Ego, then Superman can too.

Originally posted by batdude123
I'll only say this once... if Gladiator, Thor, and Beta Ray Bill can all defeat Ego, then Superman can too.
dursideup

Supes can create storms, similarly to how Ego was beaten by Thor.
He has multiple feats of such. Here's one example.
http://img215.imageshack.us/my.php?image=supermancreatesstorm2yq7.jpg
http://img53.imageshack.us/my.php?image=supermancreatesstorm3fv7.jpg

Here's another.
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y112/avalonofthewind/supesrex2.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y112/avalonofthewind/supesrex3.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y112/avalonofthewind/supesrex4.jpg

I can play this scan game all day.

Originally posted by batdude123
I'll only say this once... if Gladiator, Thor, and Beta Ray Bill can all defeat Ego, then Superman can too.

Isn't that the same as saying that if Supes, Firestorm, and Green Lantern can beat Darkseid, then Thor can too?

Originally posted by Juntai
I dunno, Ego only has a handful of appearances, and I've only seen a few of them. But when high tiers on down give him trouble, and he has a moderately good showing against Galactus. I take Galactus as the exception, rather than the other way.
Superman has a better track record here against powerful foes. He demolishes the top tiers and the cosmic badasses both.
You say, what does he do against a non jobbing Ego?
Well, what does Ego do to a non jobbing Superman, who's record and showings of power far excede his own?
But this is still what it comes down to.

Anyways, my UFC 73 Pay Per View is starting.
peace.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Isn't that the same as saying that if Supes, Firestorm, and Green Lantern can beat Darkseid, then Thor can too?

When have Firestorm and Green Lantern beaten Darkseid?

Originally posted by batdude123
When have Firestorm and Green Lantern beaten Darkseid?
He meant that Superman + Green Lantern + Firestorm = Thor. 😐

😛

Originally posted by batdude123
When have Firestorm and Green Lantern beaten Darkseid?

Firestorm redirected the OmegaForce (not the effect) and Raker beat him into the ground.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Firestorm redirected the OmegaForce (not the effect) and Raker beat him into the ground.

Firestorm did that in the Pre-Crisis era. Pre-Crisis Firestorm was pwning the League in those days.

And I'm pretty sure D-Side was holding back against Raker.

Originally posted by Juntai
I can play this scan game all day.

But none of the scans you post change the fact that NONE of that will work against a non jobbing Ego. Ego's battles with guys like Gladiator are some of the best examples of PIS I can think of.

No Mentioning Events of PIS
Plot Induced Stupidity, or PIS, is when characters don't use their abilities or skills to the fullest extent as shown before, even within their personality ranges, for the sake of the story plotline. It makes lesser powered characters an actual challenge against higher powered characters in the comics. Examples of PIS include Flash stories lasting longer than three panels, or Toy Man as a threat to Superman.

Let's see now, Ego has shown the ability(and the inclination) to alter and heal his landscape at will during battle, but he doesn't do it when Gladiator is pounding on him.... yeah that sounds like PIS to me.

Now as far as Thor goes, yes Supes can create storms. But Thor is the GOD of storms and can command them at will. I personally consider Thor being able to override Ego's weather system to be PIS also, but even if it was a valid source of evidence Supes being able to create a storm doesn't mean that he can take control of Ego's weather patterns the way that Thor did.

Originally posted by batdude123
Firestorm did that in the Pre-Crisis era. Pre-Crisis Firestorm was pwning the League in those days.

And I'm pretty sure D-Side was holding back against Raker.


Well, Thor's the God of Thunder which lends SOME credit to him being able to override Ego's weather system, and I'm pretty sure that Ego not healing himself after Gladiator punched him was PIS seeing as how he can do it with ease.

When losing to top tiers is the norm, and Galactus is the exception, I don't think it's PIS. Probably a lot closer to CIS, which is admissable, given that characters at the tier generally beat him. You exluding what seems to be his average combat outcome as PIS is rediculous at best.

Back to my pay per view.

Originally posted by Juntai
When losing to top tiers is the norm, and Galactus is the exception, I don't think it's PIS. Probably a lot closer to CIS, which is admissable, given that characters at the tier generally beat him. You exluding what seems to be his average combat outcome as PIS is rediculous at best.

Back to my pay per view.


Doesn't Flash's average combat showings have him getting tagged by people FAR slower than he is? Does that make those instances legitimate? Ego has shown the ability to heal/alter himself at will in almost EVERY appearance he's ever made. In fact, I can't think of a time other than his run in with Gladiator that he DIDN'T heal himself when he was injured. His showings against Thor and Beta Ray Bill are inconsequential because both of those characters have a magical advantage going for them that Supes lacks.

You are clinging to a SINGLE instance of some hurting Ego the way that Gladiator did, when I've shown several things to indicate the instance as PIS. You can't go by the ABC logic that just because Thor was able to pull a win against Ego that Supes will as well, because Supes lacks the ability to override Ego's weather systems. All Supes could do would be to create a storm, which Ego could easily disperse.

The fact is that there is NO logical way for Supes to put Ego down, while there are countless ways that Ego could take Supes down.

Wasn't Ego afraid of crashing into the sun?

And come on guys..It was blatantly obvious that DG had an ulterior motive by resurrecting this ancient and near insignificant thread.