Does VooDoo/Witchcraft/Magic Exist ?

Can they occur, effectively?

Well, yes they exist. People practice it in other words. But personally I don't think it actually works.

if they doi got god on myside

Originally posted by Nazgulinthedark
Well, yes they exist. People practice it in other words. But personally I don't think it actually works.

Well yea, that's why I said can they occur effectively.

The wording doesnt make sense, but I was able to interptret your point.

Yes ,it does n does work effectively ,but it'a a sin 2 practice magic.

Originally posted by Alliance
The wording doesnt make sense, but I was able to interptret your point.

The wording is correct, grammatically and sensibly, you just misinterpreted it.

Again, what I meant was can those elements happen to someone.

Originally posted by maham
Yes ,it does n does work effectively ,but it'a a sin 2 practice magic.

Bah. If it actually was real, I see no reason why it should be a sin - the crime of witchcraft and the like was very much an assimilation tool of the Church to stamp out pagan belief that wasn't acceptable (read absorbed) into the Church.

Does it exist? People believe it does, just like people believe in lucky charms, holy water, tarot cards and so forth. Does that mean it is real? I wouldn't say so. A lot of it is drawn from mythological sources and figures, and such things get embellished over time, or used to explain things. And then there are the use of hallucinogenic substances or incenses in voodoo to bring about trances, the use of music, fasting and so on. It seem possible to correctly prepare a person so they experience something, but in the end it seems illusionary - which would bring us to hedge wizards and charlatans.

But who can say, people should be allowed to believe it if they want to. I have seen little evidence in the end, but then there is always a chance.

Originally posted by maham
Yes ,it does n does work effectively ,but it'a a sin 2 practice magic.

And pray tell how is it a sin? If someone practices VooDoo as a religion then it is clearly not a sin...They are not Christian, they do not abide by the 10 commandments...In other words, it is not a sin.

Originally posted by Darth Macabre
And pray tell how is it a sin? If someone practices VooDoo as a religion then it is clearly not a sin...They are not Christian, they do not abide by the 10 commandments...In other words, it is not a sin.

From God's point of view--the only one that matters--practicing magic, voodoo, and the like IS a sin.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
From God's point of view--the only one that matters--practicing magic, voodoo, and the like IS a sin.

Like I said...They are not christian...There are no 10 commandments deeming what they do a sin....I would assume you are a christian...If you would practice magic, then THAT would be a sin...But them practicing magic, however, is not.

Darth Macabre,

God's Word, will, and laws are absolute and they apply to everyone whether everyone is obeying them or not.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Darth Macabre,

God's Word, will, and laws are absolute and they apply to everyone whether everyone is obeying them or not.

So tell me...How come the Ten Commandments weren't the first thing god said to his "prophets".

No offense to you, but that was a typical christian response...Believe in what we say, or suffer in Hades when you die.

Why are you so fixated on the Ten Commandments. God told the Israelites more than just ten things that He wanted them to do. God's Word is His will not just the ten commandments.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Why are you so fixated on the Ten Commandments. God told the Israelites more than just ten things that He wanted them to do. God's Word is His will not just the ten commandments.

Because the ten commandments are the only thing written in stone, quite literally, that say Magic is a sin to all those who followed Moses...And since this thread's about magic, I am staying on topping...

Originally posted by Darth Macabre
So tell me...How come the Ten Commandments weren't the first thing god said to his "prophets".

No offense to you, but that was a typical christian response...Believe in what we say, or suffer in Hades when you die.

I have never told anyone to "BELIEVE IN WHAT I SAY OR SUFFER IN HADES WHEN YOU DIE."

I have simply told you what the Word says.

God gave the chilcren of Israel the "Law of Moses." The first five books of the Bible is referred to as the Law of Moses. God's prohibition about practicing magic is no where near the ten commandments, but it is contained in the Law of Moses.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive

I have simply told you what the Word says.

Exactly...That is God's word to his people...The one's who follow him...Those who don't follow him, however, do not abide by those laws.

God's law is absolute. You may not follow, heed, obey, or respect God or His Word now, but guess what? You, me, and every other person alive or dead is going to be judged based on God's law not on our own logic, rationalizations, or belief systems now.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
God's law is absolute. You may not follow, heed, obey, or respect God or His Word now, but guess what? You, me, and every other person alive or dead is going to be judged based on God's law not on our own logic, rationalizations, or belief systems now.

God Condemns The Following Practices: Necromancy, Augury, Witchery, Interpreting Omens, Soothsaying, Sorcery, Conjuring Spells, The Practice Of Mediums i.e. Calling Up the Dead, Spiritism (or Spiritualism), Stargazing, Prognostication, Astrology, palm reading, consulting psychics, and horoscopes--Leviticus 19:31; Deuteronomy 18:10-15; Isaiah 47:12-15; Acts 9:11, 13:6-11, 16:16-19, 19:19