Originally posted by leonheartmm
erm read what i wrote again, its quite different from relegion.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
but unlike relegion i have a lot of solid undeniable evidence even if i dont share it.
Exact same claim the religious make.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
{also dont just assume i feal really great about KNOWING sumthing exists which i never really believed or wanted to believe, but just like i look at evidence and dismiss relegion it would be very hypocritical of me to not accept something whichi in my point of view is fake if there is overwhelming evidence for its existance. the great thing though about mystical power is that it doesnt mess with your view on life and your decisions like relegion does}
Exact same claims that religion typically makes, just switch your terms around.
It's the exact same statement as they make.
yea well their idea of evidence is vague unproven crap with me its quite different it wasnt just feeling or sumhow mystically KNOWING. eg if u have a sibling and theyr really close to u and right infront of ur eyes they grow real huge tentacles out of their hands and grab u at the other end of the room and toss u right across. n then keep doing it every following days{not the throwing part but doing other stuff} how long will u keep trying to find LOGICAL definitions to prove what is quite true, false? just an analogy to tell u ihave quite SOLID evidence. nuthin like what christians claim. or any other relegion for that matter.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
yea well their idea of evidence is vague unproven crap with me its quite different it wasnt just feeling or sumhow mystically KNOWING. eg if u have a sibling and theyr really close to u and right infront of ur eyes they grow real huge tentacles out of their hands and grab u at the other end of the room and toss u right across. n then keep doing it every following days{not the throwing part but doing other stuff} how long will u keep trying to find LOGICAL definitions to prove what is quite true, false? just an analogy to tell u ihave quite SOLID evidence. nuthin like what christians claim. or any other relegion for that matter.
I am a psychologist. We have done tests on various people that claim such. Statistically their abilities are not anything but chance. There is no scientific support. Same as religion.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
erm what if there is documented proof of sum1 mystically saving sum1 else from an internation natural catastrophe? and u knew both the saviour and the rescued and some news company had evidence of the rescue?
The religious claim as much. If it were true it would be much more well known and documented.
nope. they have illogical, unbacked beliefs which have been PROVEN untrue, yet they turn a blind eye and call others that to feal better about themselves and more secure. im not accepting it because i WANT to, im accepting it because theres a lot of evidence for it and practically none against it and i have tried to find much against it.
n btw, i dont believe ur a very succesful psychologist, no1 who is so sure of themselves can be. and ur adamant nature only hints at an egotistical fullfilment from practicing psychology on others and trying to prove ur apparent superiority with a smile. atleast that what it seems like from the way u talk. short precise cold, self satisfactory with not even a hint of intrigue, curiosity or giving the other person even the benefit of doubt let alone considering what they are saying.
Originally posted by Regret
I am sorry for this, but your view is the same view the religious have. You have been attacking them, yet your view here is under the same critique. If you believe in a similar phenomena, you can't be using attacks that threaten your own belief.
thats just it, it DOESNT threaten my own belief i say there is no god who is omnipotent, omniscient, omnibenevolant and omnipresent. i dont believe in the teachings of other relegions. i DONT however ever say that there is NOTHING out there. there are mystical energies etc which cant be defined by normal science. that doesnt however mean that i have to believe in any relegion. tell me if im wrong one reason why what i know is similar to relegion?
Originally posted by leonheartmm
nope. they have illogical, unbacked beliefs which have been PROVEN untrue, yet they turn a blind eye and call others that to feal better about themselves and more secure. im not accepting it because i WANT to, im accepting it because theres a lot of evidence for it and practically none against it and i have tried to find much against it.n btw, i dont believe ur a very succesful psychologist, no1 who is so sure of themselves can be. and ur adamant nature only hints at an egotistical fullfilment from practicing psychology on others and trying to prove ur apparent superiority with a smile. atleast that what it seems like from the way u talk. short precise cold, self satisfactory with not even a hint of intrigue, curiosity or giving the other person even the benefit of doubt let alone considering what they are saying.
Lol, you are the same as the religious people you attack, your entire statement here is the same manner they respond, including the personal attacks.
Psychologists are scientists. They are extremely skeptical and are driven by empirical evidence. We do deal in very credible evidence in my area of psychology.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
thats just it, it DOESNT threaten my own belief i say there is no god who is omnipotent, omniscient, omnibenevolant and omnipresent. i dont believe in the teachings of other relegions. i DONT however ever say that there is NOTHING out there. there are mystical energies etc which cant be defined by normal science. that doesnt however mean that i have to believe in any relegion. tell me if im wrong one reason why what i know is similar to relegion?
Lol, your "mystical energies" are nearly the exact same as the view of some religions. God isn't necessary for a religion. You are caliming there is something out there, "mystical energies."
and i dont deal with CREDIBLE evidence? tell me doctor, of the analogy i put forward before. if it really had happened to me, what exactly WOULD u describe it as? a hallucinagenic experience? wait i remeber u cant TOUCH a hallucination. what else schizophrenia? hmmm, odd isnt it if the OTHER person knows and acknowledges what happened to. plus there are the two huge bruises i have from being thrown 10 feat which my MOTHER also noticed. oh wait what could it be, was i dreaming everyday for past 2 years. am i bipolar hmmm, then howcome OTHER people know of exactly what happened. oh wait the only way i cud be lying is if everything upto this point has been a dream but hey there are still people around me who will give u the exact same account. think think think, what can it BE?!
Originally posted by Regret
Lol, your "mystical energies" are nearly the exact same as the view of some religions. God isn't necessary for a religion. You are caliming there is something out there, "mystical energies."
as the true sceptic i am. i admit there is a very small chance that everything was expertly planned just for ME since a long time by every 1 i know including my parents to make EVERYTHING fit in perfectly. until this point n u r the only light of reason i have ever seen. remote but it CAN exist otherwise theres no real explanation.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
and i dont deal with CREDIBLE evidence? tell me doctor, of the analogy i put forward before. if it really had happened to me, what exactly WOULD u describe it as? a hallucinagenic experience? wait i remeber u cant TOUCH a hallucination. what else schizophrenia? hmmm, odd isnt it if the OTHER person knows and acknowledges what happened to. plus there are the two huge bruises i have from being thrown 10 feat which my MOTHER also noticed. oh wait what could it be, was i dreaming everyday for past 2 years. am i bipolar hmmm, then howcome OTHER people know of exactly what happened. oh wait the only way i cud be lying is if everything upto this point has been a dream but hey there are still people around me who will give u the exact same account. think think think, what can it BE?!
I would say that it is not repeatable. You don't have evidence to show in support of your claim. Even if it happened, there is no evidence for me to see. It ends the same as any other religious person's claim. Religious people are in groups as well. Their claim is no different.
sadly psychology has taught u nothing my friend. too bad. i thought relegious people were narrow minded but ur not any better. unlike them i just put questions infront of u n sadly LIKE them u dismissed them without even trying to answer. i put a very detailed scenario infornt of u and u practically said it never existed instead of trying to point out flaws or taking a shot at LOGICALLY disproving it. ur not very different from them, sticking to one thing and BELIEVING in it no matter what. atleast i would have looked at ur counterargument without bias if u had GIVEN me one. but alas ur content in saying everything i say is just like what relegious people say. honestly thats quite against what a good psychologist should be doing. psychoanalysing urself is the first step and uve obviously missed it.