Does VooDoo/Witchcraft/Magic Exist ?

Here's something that's been buggin' me, if people are stating that demons and such horrors don't exist, how can they go in life believing in angels and deitys?

"I do believe in spooks. I do believe in spooks. I do! I do! I do! I do believe in spooks."

😂

Well, I hope I make myself clear with that: Witchcraft as in waving your wand and murmuring strange words and something "supernatural" happens.
😉

Originally posted by eezy45
Hey there,

I want to ask you to truthfully give your opinion on supernatural (as witchcraft and demons etc.).
There has been a more or less fascinating discussion going on with someone on the Religion forum who actually claims that nearly all people on this world believed in witchcraft and sorcery and all the superstitious crap. Since I found that rather funny, I'd really like your answers to this.

the supernatural most probably exists. i dunno about traditional demons{probably made up to FIT in with any unknown or even supernatural phenomenon} but psychics/mystics exists, very powerful ones too. some practices akin to magic, {reiki, chi gathering, trying to prlong life through madication on a level beyond purely biological, controlling fire, partially knowing the future, channeling chaos, using your will or spirit to force things to happen} exist, or atleast i have good reason to believe they do. not most of the traditional supernatural though, its most likely, u have mystic strength, believe its given by god/demon and then whenever anything happens because of it, u take it as evidence that its due tp your perception of where the power is comigng from. but its EXCEEDINGLY rare, and over 99% of people who claim it are lying.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
the supernatural most probably exists. i dunno about traditional demons{probably made up to FIT in with any unknown or even supernatural phenomenon} but psychics/mystics exists, very powerful ones too. some practices akin to magic, {reiki, chi gathering, trying to prlong life through madication on a level beyond purely biological, controlling fire, partially knowing the future, channeling chaos, using your will or spirit to force things to happen} exist, or atleast i have good reason to believe they do. not most of the traditional supernatural though, its most likely, u have mystic strength, believe its given by god/demon and then whenever anything happens because of it, u take it as evidence that its due tp your perception of where the power is comigng from. but its EXCEEDINGLY rare, and over 99% of people who claim it are lying.

take the mystery out to the word magic...it only means that there is no proof of the steps to get the result, once you understand the meaning of magic, it's just a matter of proving the steps, if you do that, then you are a genius and just unlocked what science wasn't able to prove as of via logic/experiment (expected results via the steps).

Originally posted by Mindship
"I do believe in spooks. I do believe in spooks. I do! I do! I do! I do believe in spooks."

Originally posted by Czarina_Czarina
take the mystery out to the word magic...it only means that there is no proof of the steps to get the result, once you understand the meaning of magic, it's just a matter of proving the steps, if you do that, then you are a genius and just unlocked what science wasn't able to prove as of via logic/experiment (expected results via the steps).

Merrian websters printed desription of the word magic....

1: the use of means (as charms or spells) believed to have supernatural power over natural forces b : magic rites or incantations

2 a : an extraordinary power or influence seemingly from a supernatural source b : something that seems to cast a spell : ENCHANTMENT

I think you are speaking of an Illusionist, master of slight of hand,

I know this was an ass hole thing to do, but people shit over my words all the time, when common sense should tell you what i meant, now was my turn 🙂

Originally posted by Adam_PoE

👆 good job

witchcraft=no
demons=never seen one

Originally posted by ragesRemorse
Merrian websters printed desription of the word magic....

1: the use of means (as charms or spells) believed to have supernatural power over natural forces b : magic rites or incantations

2 a : an extraordinary power or influence seemingly from a supernatural source b : something that seems to cast a spell : ENCHANTMENT

I think you are speaking of an Illusionist, master of slight of hand,

I know this was an ass hole thing to do, but people shit over my words all the time, when common sense should tell you what i meant, now was my turn 🙂

I didn't make it clear, my apologies. I am going by the OTHER Merriam's dictionary (my own). 😎

Originally posted by Czarina_Czarina
I didn't make it clear, my apologies. I am going by the OTHER Merriam's dictionary (my own). 😎

Oh, well then, i see your point 🙂 Which edition do you refer to? Mine is a bit outdated, I am running on Joe's dumbass definitions 72, I hear edition 93 really corrected alot of the bad definitions

Originally posted by ragesRemorse
Oh, well then, i see your point 🙂 Which edition do you refer to? Mine is a bit outdated, I am running on Joe's dumbass definitions 72, I hear edition 93 really corrected alot of the bad definitions

Nope, I am using my own defintion, period. I can call "x" anything I want to even if Merriam or Webster has a default definition, as long as I am clear on what this word means in the context of the conversation, I can't see how it's an issue of a dumbass or not, it's just a matter of style, to each his or her own.

Originally posted by ragesRemorse
Oh, well then, i see your point 🙂 Which edition do you refer to? Mine is a bit outdated, I am running on Joe's dumbass definitions 72, I hear edition 93 really corrected alot of the bad definitions

If you wan to hear a more othorodox definition:

Magic:

the art of producing a desired effect or result through the use of incantation or various other techniques that presumably assure human control of supernatural agencies or the forces of nature.

Supernatural means that the event is not explained via physics, we have no physical laws for it, thus, it's supernatural, we don't know the logic behind how it happens. Magic would be defined the same way as someone who is from the 1300s who pops up to 2007 and doesn't know how wireless works, and b/c they don't know much of the new laws we've learned, they feel it's magic. Magic is not knowing any physical laws to explain the event...sorry if that's not verbatum. If we had physical laws to explain the logic behind spirits and mediums and can produce the expected results in a lab, it would no longer be supernatural anymore. Think about it.

Originally posted by eezy45
Hey there,

I want to ask you to truthfully give your opinion on supernatural (as witchcraft and demons etc.).
There has been a more or less fascinating discussion going on with someone on the Religion forum who actually claims that nearly all people on this world believed in witchcraft and sorcery and all the superstitious crap. Since I found that rather funny, I'd really like your answers to this.

Fu.ck no. It's fun to speculate whether or not it could exist, though. For example, I don't believe in Big Foot or La Chupacabra, but I spend a lot of time reading up on these cryptid creatures and imagining how mind blowing it would be to discover that either exists.

Damn,I would love to see a dragon.

or a Unicorn,I wan a Unicorn ddammit!!!

Originally posted by Czarina_Czarina
take the mystery out to the word magic...it only means that there is no proof of the steps to get the result, once you understand the meaning of magic, it's just a matter of proving the steps, if you do that, then you are a genius and just unlocked what science wasn't able to prove as of via logic/experiment (expected results via the steps).

however the problem with that definition for the things im aware of is, that normally, steps are only present if you look at a procedure from a certain persepctive{i.e u cud name the same phenomenon{writing} at a specific point in space and time as (a) a person preserving ideas (b) ink molecules being spread on paper molecules due to a predetermined process (b) a system transitioning to different state of entropy} but even if u describe the phenomenon with another persepective, it wudnt contradict the first definition, however the stuff im talking about might makes a certain amount of sense on a human argumentative level or emotional level, but doesnt really make any sense on a statistiacal, graphical, physical/scientific level. so its kinda hard to just blame it on our lack of knowledge of stages involved from beginning to end, atleast for me.

Originally posted by Martian_mind
Damn,I would love to see a dragon.

or a Unicorn,I wan a Unicorn ddammit!!!

Or an etriagan.

Originally posted by eezy45
Hey there,

I want to ask you to truthfully give your opinion on supernatural (as witchcraft and demons etc.).
There has been a more or less fascinating discussion going on with someone on the Religion forum who actually claims that nearly all people on this world believed in witchcraft and sorcery and all the superstitious crap. Since I found that rather funny, I'd really like your answers to this.

No, of course I don't believe in any of that, anything supernatural, there is no evidence whatsoever to support any of it.

I strongly believe in The Craft, Magical Creatures, or anything dealing with magic! I pride myself in drowning neck deep in the Supernatural!