DE Sidious & Ludo Kressh vs. Marka Ragnos & Naga Sadow

Who would win?

Ragnos and Naga summarily slaughtered.

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Ragnos and Naga summarily slaughtered.

Like it happened to the last two of your functioning brain cells, correct ?

Ragnos and Sadow WTFdestroy the others. Reasons ? Not needed any longer here.

Very close. Sids is probably slightly stronger then Sadow, but so is Ragnos to Kressh. I'd say Rag and Sadow.

Awww, is Nai getting upset? Is Nai forgetting how DE Luke was said to have surpassed any other Jedi? Perhaps how Sadow and Kressh were equals?
Yep, Ragnos will be able to stand against Luke in his most powerful state in DE: Channeling the entire light side. But wait! TEH MARKA IS STRONGER THAN TEH LIGHT!
Give me a break

Where are you getting all of these quotes from Lightsnake? Do you and Anderson exchange love letters or something?

No more than you cyber with people pretending to be Revan.

Well where do you get all of these quotes from then?

Sourcebook, the handbook, among others

Originally posted by Borbarad
Like it happened to the last two of your functioning brain cells, correct ?

Ragnos and Sadow WTFdestroy the others. Reasons ? Not needed any longer here.

Excellent reasoning!

Sadow - requires a ship to do anything spectacular.

Ragnos - we know next to nothing about him, so sure - he must be able to defeat a guy who eats entire fleets of ships for breakfast and can teleport anyone from any place at any time.

Sadow didn't need his ship to make a star go nova in DLOTS...
Sadow didn't need his ship to generate mass illusions...

Nebaris:
1. In DLOTS, that's now what happened. That is a holocron retelling. In Golden Age, where we see it as it happened, he needed the ship and used the 'electrical weapon'....stop using DLOTS for this example when it's a retelling to what we actually saw happen
2. He's sitting in a ship designed to enhance illusions surrounded by force enhancing crystals

Sidious fries them while Ludo, just, stands there and makes sure they don't get close.

Way one: DE Sidious conjures up a Force Storm while Marka and Naga slaughter Ludo. Then Marka and Naga turn the storm back on Sidious like Luke and Leia did. The other way one of the ancient's kills Ludo while the other one defeats or, at least, hold Sidious back in a lightsaber duel and after Ludo dies the two ancient's team up on Sidious and he dies.

Either way i go with Marka and Naga.

Originally posted by darthsith19
Way one: DE Sidious conjures up a Force Storm while Marka and Naga slaughter Ludo. Then Marka and Naga turn the storm back on Sidious like Luke and Leia did. The other way one of the ancient's kills Ludo while the other one defeats or, at least, hold Sidious back in a lightsaber duel and after Ludo dies the two ancient's team up on Sidious and he dies.

Either way i go with Marka and Naga.

Darthsith, I won't get into another incredibly redundant and ridiculously long argument (unless I have to), but we know nothing of Ragnos's powers. Nai makes assumptions and such (which may be true) but they are not confirmed.

Until such a time when we know the full scope of his powers and they are proven to be greater than everyone else's, I do not consider Ragnos as anything but your standard Ancient Sith.

And even then, I still say he goes down to Sidious simply because Sidious can conjure Force Storms for a fact - and without assistance from any item.

Naga and Ludo are scared shitless of Marka's spirit. Why would that be unless his spirit is stornger than either of them are? And it's only logical that Marka would be stronger aliven than in the form of a spirit. And if Luke, Leia and fetus Anakin Solo can block a Force Storm then Naga and Marka together definatelty could.

Originally posted by darthsith19
Naga and Ludo are scared shitless of Marka's spirit. Why would that be unless his spirit is stornger than either of them are? And it's only logical that Marka would be stronger aliven than in the form of a spirit. And if Luke, Leia and fetus Anakin Solo can block a Force Storm then Naga and Marka together definatelty could.

Please don't bring up the spirit argument.

Ragnos, Palpatine, and Kun all had spirits.

a) It took a single average Jedi to repel Ragnos's spirit and make it flee.
b) It took an entire Academy of students to obliterate Kun's spirit.
c) It took Brand and "all the Jedi before [them]" to hold Palpatine's spirit in oblivion.

You tell me which is more spectacular.

Furthermore, imagine the power of three Skywalkers. It was the "attunement" of them. Which is their connection to the Force, which is stronger than any other entity (including Palpatine, Kun, or Ragnos) to conquer a single Force Storm.

You're making assumptions.

Luke, Leia and fetus Anakain as of DE arn't as great as Naga and Marka. Marka lived for over five thousand years, Exar over four thousand. Palpatine lived for 93 years. Tell me, which is more impressive?

Originally posted by darthsith19
Luke, Leia and fetus Anakain as of DE arn't as great as Naga and Marka. Marka lived for over five thousand years, Exar over four thousand. Palpatine lived for 93 years. Tell me, which is more impressive?

Is that your tactic? Answer my question with a question?

I believe I've been kind enough to respond to your arguments. Why don't you be courteous and return the favor.

Originally posted by Escape81
Is that your tactic? Answer my question with a question?

I believe I've been kind enough to respond to your arguments. Why don't you be courteous and return the favor.