Yes Maul was Palpatine's Apprentice from birth, no argument.
So by that fact alone, Maul was lord of the sith from birth. No I don't think so.
Maul became Dark Lord of the Sith later in life.
Remember Assajj was Dooku's Apprentice, but she was not a sith lord just an apprentice. and never became a sith. therefore the rule of 2 was unbroken. Maul may not have become Darth Maul until 9 years prior to ep 1.
Originally posted by Generic Hero
Dude. There can only be 2 Sith.Maul was Palpatine's apprentice since infancy. Let's say 4 years old.
Which means Plagueis was last alive 18 years before TPM. Let's say he creates Anakin right before he died.
Anakin was born 10 years before TPM.
It doesn't work, unless he spent some 8 years in his momma's tummy.
sidious secretly had maul while he was still apprenticed to plagueis
sidious secretly had maul while he was still apprenticed to plagueis
Prove this for me.
Remember Assajj was Dooku's Apprentice, but she was not a sith lord just an apprentice. and never became a sith. therefore the rule of 2 was unbroken. Maul may not have become Darth Maul until 9 years prior to ep 1.
No, Asajj wasn't Dooku's apprentice. She was never trained in Dooku's Sith arts. She worked for him, that's it.
Actually each novelization and comic adaption of clone wars clearly states apprentice. Just not sith trained.
Proof? Sources please.
Already proved. Your argument has maul a dark lord of the sith at 4 years old. I dont think he was that good at 4
He was trained in Sith teachings from birth. Nothing's wrong with a 4 year old Sith. Being "good" has nothing to do with you being a Sith.
Maul followed the Sith code, was taught in the Sith teachings and learned the dark side of the force. Age has little to do with the matter.
Asajj wasn't Dooku's apprentice, she was not being trained in the Sith Arts, as Maul was from the beginning.
My theory is that Anakin's Father was really *drum rolls*
Jabba the Hutt while they were both drunk at a Cantina! Prove me wrong! 😮💨 😮💨 😮💨 😮💨
The point, doesn't matter and we will never know, as nothing can be proven right or wrong, unless the new Darth Plagueis Novels say so, but that doesn't seem like a creative way to have Anakin in my opinion. 😖anta:
If we're all going by how sincere Palpatine was to Anakin, then he lied.
"Unfortunately, he taught his apprentice everything he knew, then his apprentice killed him in his sleep."
If Palpatine was Plagueis's apprentice the he should already know how to create life. But if him saying to Anakin:
"To cheat death is a power only one has achieved, but if we work together, I'm sure we can discover the secret."
If that's true, then he lied to Anakin before. Ruling out Palpatine's part in Anakin's creation. And if he was being as sincere as he's being made out to be, then it would rule him out as Plagueis's apprentice altogether.
But if he really is his apprentice, then he was simply using the creating life and stopping death line as a way to hook Anakin's interest in the Dark Side, which is what happened.
But I'm no scholar on CW and Plagueis paraphanalia, so if something in the books contradicts this, then woops.
Plagueis created a life - that is clearly stated by Palpatine.
A life created this way would have been born of the force. Correct
IN being born this way it would appear to be a vergence (if that was the term Mace Windu used). THis is Anakin
Again - we have NO PROOF that Maul was a lord of the sith at 4 years of age. I would have to say that you have to be pretty bloody good to have the title of DARK LORD OF THE SITH. And at 4 Maul had barely begun his apprenticeship. Not that we have any proof that he wasn't but basing your argument thus makes no sense. No what makes sense is that Maul was trained and raised that way from birth yes. But until Sidious killed Plagueis, did not become a lord of the sith. Otherwise ask yourself this Is Sidious the type to have a 10 year old as his weapon/enforcer. That does not add up. Sidious was a little more crafty than that
The databank enty for Assajj states Personal Protege.
Now the rule of two is that there is ALWAYS two. THerefore, when Sidious killed Plagueis, Maul became Darth Maul. But, Maul had to be ready to take on that title. Sidious would not have risked the future of the Sith on the shoulders of a 4 year old.
This was a mission and plan 1000 years in the making. Sidious was playing the end game. No way he would have made such a move until Maul was ready to go. I may not be sure about everyone else who has read this thread, but I would say a damn lot of them would have difficulty in believing 4 year old Maul would be good enough to kill Qui GOn at this age.
My guess would be you would have to good enough to kill a jedi master to get the title Dark Lord of the Sith. Sidious was not the type to easily give power to anyone unproved.
Originally posted by Tangible God
If we're all going by how sincere Palpatine was to Anakin, then he lied."Unfortunately, he taught his apprentice everything he knew, then his apprentice killed him in his sleep."
If Palpatine was Plagueis's apprentice the he should already know how to create life. But if him saying to Anakin:
"To cheat death is a power only one has achieved, but if we work together, I'm sure we can discover the secret."
If that's true, then he lied to Anakin before. Ruling out Palpatine's part in Anakin's creation. And if he was being as sincere as he's being made out to be, then it would rule him out as Plagueis's apprentice altogether.
But if he really is his apprentice, then he was simply using the creating life and stopping death line as a way to hook Anakin's interest in the Dark Side, which is what happened.
But I'm no scholar on CW and Plagueis paraphanalia, so if something in the books contradicts this, then woops.
just because sidious was taught everything didn't mean he used it. only one had: Plageuis