Anakin Skywalker's Father

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
Actually that COULD be untrue. Because if you think about it, Sidious by even by ROTS could be a clone already. We have no evidence of when his first body died. Also, he stated that Plagueis created life, but when he says "to cheat death is a power only one has achieved", he could be referring to himself, as he is possibly a clone.

Actually Leland Chee, the guy who maintains the Star Wars "Holocron continuity database" has said that Palpatine's first death was in fact aboard the Death Star II when Vader killed him. So ROTS Sidious is the original Sidious. He doesn't start to clone himself until after his "death" in ROTJ.

More to the point though I don't like the idea that someone "Created" Anakin, he was the chosen one, by the force. Being created by someone takes away most of the point of being a "chosen one". Plus the time line doesn't add up for Plagueis to have created him. So I doubt it.

Darth Plagueis is murdered by his apprentice Darth Sidious in 43 BBY
Anakin Skywalker is born in 42 BBY. 9 months gestation time would pretty much hit the nail on the head for my liking.
Source: From Vader the Ultimate Guide and the New Essential Chronology.

Plagueis could influence the midi-chlorians to create life. The midi-chlorians created Anakin. MIDI CHLORIANS were introduced for a purpose, not because Lucas just thought is sounded cool. Plagueis knew his enemy the Jedi. He had been trained by his Master in deception and so of from Darth Bane down to him. He would have been just as aware of the Prophecy as the Jedi were.

Plagueis has Sidious and is training him. No Dark Lord of the Sith would willingly step down from Master. They are replaced by Regicide (Kill the King). Plagueis has the plan to bring about the Chosen One. Knowing how the Jedi will react. We know the Midi-chlorians created Anakin. But there had to be something to trigger it. Plagueis.

He performs the feat out in the Outer Rim. To make sure that Anakin is not found until the time is right. (Qui Gon states this to Shmi by saying if he was in the Republic he would have been identified early). Both Plagueis and Sidious would know that the Chosen One (Anakin) would be more powerful than them as a Sith Lord. Therefore Sidious would know Anakin as a threat as long as Plagueis was around.

Like Tyranus had a pupil in Assajj Ventress. Sidious had a pupil in Maul. When Sidious then murdered Plagueis and took the title of Master, Maul would then have risen to the place of Apprentice.

We also know that both Sidious and Yoda were the only two force users strong enough to glimpse the future enough to read it. Though we know in later years that Jedi became blinded to it. Even Yoda.

I have a strong belief in the logic of this statement.

What would clarify this futher is one or two simple answers

When did Dooku become Tyranus
When did Dooku first meet Palpatine - how much influence and time did it take from first meeting to apprenticeship.
Tyranus stepped into the breach after Maul, but how long after, a year, a month, a day, or even before death.

Maul was not as skilled in the force, nor as devious/scheming as either Sidious, Plagueis, Bane or Tyranus.

It is my belief, and honest opinion in linking these facts to say that Sidious had seen enough of the future to know of the possible outcomes of Anakin's life and that he could become Lord Vader. If not seen it, then he knew enough that Anakin would be stronger. Therefore he knew Maul to be expendable and not the successor to his reign. If he saw Tyranus???

Now we also know that Sidious' scheme was set in motion prior to TPM, that there was a lot of politicking and movements prior to that movie. Therefore how much of the outcome was planned from the start. How much was adapted as it went along. From viewing the entire thing from start to finish, is so machiavellian and so massive in scope - yet simple at heart that it is the most masterful chess game yet, in that he anticipated the exact moves his opponents would make so that he was always two steps ahead of them.

Plagieus was anakin's Father. The sith knew about the prophecy, and the fact that the chosen one would destroy them, but before that, he would make them infinitely stronger. Palpatine thought himself strong enough in the Force to prevent the prophecy from coming true. obviously, he was wrong and all the sith were destroyed at the end of ROTJ.

The "prophecy" as much as we know of it, stated that there would be a vergence of the force, that this would create a chosen one to bring balance to the force.

The Sith would have known all about this prophecy and would have prepared to make sure that the chosen one would rise up as a Sith Lord.

However, aside from that, there had to be a catalyst to create the vergence.

As stated by the Merovingian, there is only one absolute: Causality.

Cause and Effect.

Plaguies caused the vergence

Anakin was the Effect of that.

Pure and Simple

yeah but that doesnt mean anything. dooku, for example, had an apprentice, (ventress) but at the same time, he was sidious' apprentice

Originally posted by Darth Volter
yeah but that doesnt mean anything. dooku, for example, had an apprentice, (ventress) but at the same time, he was sidious' apprentice

at first wen i was younger i thought it was darth maul lol since i knew about vader and luke

Episode one

Yes, they say that Anakin has way to much midichlorians in him suggesting that he was created not by Palpatine (once you jump to Episode three), but maybe this whole story about “creating life” was just a way to manipulate Anakin? Did you ever think of that???

Actually, all of us here thought of that. Long ago.

Yeah I think the reason he was staring at Anakin had more to do with enticing Anakin to use them to save Padme, not that Anakin was a product of Plageuis' experiment (although that could still be true).

I think I remember an interview with GL a while after ep.1 in which he said he didnt really know what he was thinking putting midiclorians in the story.

Heh.

I still think that it was an act of the Force rather than a manipulation by the Sith. I hope that nobody proves me wrong with future books...

Plageuis would have to be Anakins father because he supposedly "created" Anakin which would have to happen coming from pure force, right?? So then he would have a high midichlorian count, which after a blood sample, Obi Wan told Qwi Gon that he had the highest midichlorian ever by a Jedi, even higher than Yoda himself

That was hard to read.

Originally posted by Final Blaxican
I crack everyone up.

It's my talent.

Ok. so you are saying that Anakin was a supernatural experiment of the force, right? Well, what does that make his mother? What role does she play and how did she get into this???

What about the prophecy Yoda and Obi Wan kept referring to when questioning if Anakin was the chosen one to restore order to the force? Was it supposed to be Luke Skywalker? Where did this "prophecy" come from?

Originally posted by dbelton
Was it supposed to be Luke Skywalker?

No, George Lucas has stated multiple times that Anakin (not Luke) is the chosen one.

If Anakin was supposed to be the prophesied one to restore order and balance to the force, then after the disappointment, why did Yoda say, "No. there is another"?

It can be argued in my opinion that Darth Plagueis created Anakin to bridge the gap between the raw power of the Force. The prophecy of the Chosen One could also be the Sith'ari and both sides (Jedi and Sith) misinterpreted the meaning. When Anakin was born he might have been a fail safe that Palpatine never saw coming until TPM. Palpatine recogized the boy's potential to usurp him and wanted a dynasty. Anakin could have killed him later in life, but Palp would have the ability to survive (in theory). We don't know if Palpatine knew the power. In the end Darth Plagueis killed his own apprentice using his creation: Anakin.