Originally posted by Ultraman Baltan
I think he can. Actually, scratch that. I KNOW he can.
Nah, knowing isn't enough. You have to possess absolute religious conviction.
Thus, I have total faith that Spiderman could defeat a Martian Manhunter figurine. You know, the stand-alone plastic type figurine.
Total faith.
😮💨
Originally posted by Dinkus Mayhem
So you have a MM who can still use..~ability to change shape
~invisibility
~Superman like strength and durability
~Speed for defenses (just can't speedblitz, dumb rule)
~Flight
~Martian Vision (Energy beams)vs
Spiderman who is normal....
[b]Winner:
Martian Spidermanhunter😮💨 [/B]
Martian Spidermanhunter.
That's genius.
Good one.
😄
To be honest this thread is a classic: someone (read: Golem 370) actually thought that Spiderman had a chance against Jjon.
That is simply amazing.
(And I can bet you a good amount of money that the kid who made this thread would scream bloody murder if someone created a thread that asked if Spiderman could defeat the Hulk! He would find it so ridiculous that anyone could pit Peter versus Banner's green iteration. Yet he makes a thread putting Spiderman versus the Martian Manhunter without blinking an eye when the mahunter could kill Spiderman in FAR MORE ways than the Hulk could. The Hulk would basically smash Peter Parker to gel, but the manhunter could smash Parker just as easily since he has superman-level strength, he could fry parker with martian vision, he could shapeshift and envelop parker by covering him all over so he couldn't breath, he could use his telepathy to make parker kill himself, or wipe his mind clean, or make Parker think he is a door knob! Goodness, the Manhunter could do ANYTHING with Spiderman).
Yet Golem 370, in all his 'wisdom' (not), thought that the two characters would make a good match up!
Amazing.
Actually this is crazier than some of the things Wolverine8888 used to say back in the days. At least W8888 would say why he thought Wolverine would win, and while most of it was far-fetched W8888 made an effort (although to be honest he'd say 'interesting' things like Wolverine beating Thor under KMC rules, or Wolverine defeating Superman, or Wolverine killing Wonderwoman etc etc etc).
But at least he'd give some explanation, no matter how skewed.
Golem does similar things (like putting weak-@$$ Marvel characters, eg Spiderman, against potent DC characters, eg Martian Manhunter), but every now and then Golem goes the extra step.
A step that even Wolverine8888 at his most rabid never went to.
He puts individual Marvel characters, or small groups of Marvel characters, against the entire DC universe.
Even Wolverine 8888 would never have done that.
Simply put it would have been too silly.
But hey, if Spiderman can defeat Jjon then a group of 5 marvel characters can take out an entire universe.
Originally posted by Arahan
Spiderman is a good character unfortunately
that doesnt help him against MM.MM 10/10
Very true.
Spiderman has a very nice set of powers, ranging from super-strength to amazing agility to one of the best sets of situational/combat awareness (spider-sense). And it doesn't stop there (eg he is smart, a very good fighter, quite resourceful as shown by him defeating characters that are stronger/faster than he is, etc etc etc).
Spiderman is da bomb.
Add to this that Spiderman, as a character, is one of the best written characters in comicdom. While there are some mistakes made (eg the whole cosmic spiderman arc), generally speaking Spiderman comics are very well written (and very well drawn). It is really hard to go wrong with Peter.
However (as you stated correctly), all that is for naught against someone like the martian manhunter. Jjon is simply on a different plateau from Peter.
I said Spiderman has defeated characters that are stronger than he is, but there is a huge difference between characters like Venom, Carnage and Rhino when compared to a Superman-strength character like the Manhunter.
And to the high-level super-strength add the following aspects, ranging from high-order telepathy to high-level intelligence (note that MM is one of the best minds in the JLA), to invulnerability, to hape changing, martian vision etc. Even if his super-speed and phasing ability is removed, Jjon can still be able to do anything with Peter.
Although to be honest MM would only need strength alone.
I'd say the guy who made the thread doesn't know who MM is.
Originally posted by spetznaz
Very true.Spiderman has a very nice set of powers, ranging from super-strength to amazing agility to one of the best sets of situational/combat awareness (spider-sense). And it doesn't stop there (eg he is smart, a very good fighter, quite resourceful as shown by him defeating characters that are stronger/faster than he is, etc etc etc).
Spiderman is da bomb.
Add to this that Spiderman, as a character, is one of the best written characters in comicdom. While there are some mistakes made (eg the whole cosmic spiderman arc), generally speaking Spiderman comics are very well written (and very well drawn). It is really hard to go wrong with Peter.
However (as you stated correctly), all that is for naught against someone like the martian manhunter. Jjon is simply on a different plateau from Peter.
I said Spiderman has defeated characters that are stronger than he is, but there is a huge difference between characters like Venom, Carnage and Rhino when compared to a Superman-strength character like the Manhunter.
And to the high-level super-strength add the following aspects, ranging from high-order telepathy to high-level intelligence (note that MM is one of the best minds in the JLA), to invulnerability, to hape changing, martian vision etc. Even if his super-speed and phasing ability is removed, Jjon can still be able to do anything with Peter.Although to be honest MM would only need strength alone.
I'd say the guy who made the thread doesn't know who MM is.
Totally agree
Originally posted by spetznaz
Very true.Spiderman has a very nice set of powers, ranging from super-strength to amazing agility to one of the best sets of situational/combat awareness (spider-sense). And it doesn't stop there (eg he is smart, a very good fighter, quite resourceful as shown by him defeating characters that are stronger/faster than he is, etc etc etc).
Spiderman is da bomb.
Add to this that Spiderman, as a character, is one of the best written characters in comicdom. While there are some mistakes made (eg the whole cosmic spiderman arc), generally speaking Spiderman comics are very well written (and very well drawn). It is really hard to go wrong with Peter.
However (as you stated correctly), all that is for naught against someone like the martian manhunter. Jjon is simply on a different plateau from Peter.
I said Spiderman has defeated characters that are stronger than he is, but there is a huge difference between characters like Venom, Carnage and Rhino when compared to a Superman-strength character like the Manhunter.
And to the high-level super-strength add the following aspects, ranging from high-order telepathy to high-level intelligence (note that MM is one of the best minds in the JLA), to invulnerability, to hape changing, martian vision etc. Even if his super-speed and phasing ability is removed, Jjon can still be able to do anything with Peter.Although to be honest MM would only need strength alone.
I'd say the guy who made the thread doesn't know who MM is.
I couldn't give a **** what you say
Well, he wasn't making fun of you, if you actually read all of his posts (except for a couple of sentences, which you need to watch next time, spetnaz, although golem, you quoted the post that had no insults). And no, I'm not your momma, but I am the moderator, thank you for reminding me. Disrespecting people like that won't be tolerated, especially when you disrespect a mod. I've never had a problem with you before, lets not start now.
Wow, I can't believe this thread went on like this. Even without telepathy, intangibility and speed blitz, Martian Manhunter is a Superman level (or close to) character. Flight, super strength (close to Wonderwoman), invulnerability and shape shifting. Spider-Man is on of my favorites, but this battle is very one sided. 🙁
Originally posted by golem370
I couldn't give a **** what you say
You always think I am making fun of you and I am not. If I was it would be very easy to tell. All I am saying is that some of the threads you make are not only terribly skewed but to a large extent illogical.
Add to this the fact that I actually commend you for some of your threads (eg the Superboy Prime vs Steel in the Aegis Entropy thread was pure genius .....that was a really good thread). However if you make a thread putting solitary Marvel characters, or a small group of them, against the entire DC universe, well, that is quite illogical and I will say it. Or take this thread: Putting someone on the order of SPiderman versus someone like the Manhunter.
The funny thing is that in most of those threads there are quite a number of posters who actually make open fun of you (not your thread, YOU), and for the large part I only concentrate on your thread.
Yet you think I am making fun of you.
Honestly Golem, you are so good at making fun of yourself that there is no need for me to do any such thing. It wouldn't be a challenge. And anyways, making fun of anonymous people on an internet forum on comicbook characters would be a total waste of my time.
Thus, I am not making fun of you, and moreover you already make fun of yourself at a far greater level of efficacy than I could hope to match. Just look at the responses other people have to your threads and think - why are they making fun of my thread. Could it be that the thread might be silly. Maybe putting Spiderman versus the Martian manhunter wasn't such a good idea after all.
Then look at some of the good threads you make (eg the SBprime vs Aegis Entropy thread) and the responses in that thread, where several posters don't even know which character to choose because it is that good.
Then wonder how come in some of the threads you make people are making fun of you, and yet in a (sadly a few) others they can't even make a choice.
IT all comes down to thread integrity, and if you make a sucky thread then you cannot expect people to pat you in the back.
Is that making fun of you?
Well, if you think I am making fun of you then you need more help than I thought. I am not making fun of you (and, again, if I was it wouldn't be too hard to tell. It would be clearly evident).
As for you not giving a f@%^ to what I have to say ....well, that is ok.
I never wanted you to f@%^ me in the first place. If that's the game you play I'm sure there are some lonely guys seeking company in the classified pages of your local newspaper.
You could always contact them, and I hear it is free.
Yet Golem 370, in all his 'wisdom' (not), thought that the two characters would make a good match up!
Amazing.
Well, if you think I am making fun of you then you need more help than I thought. I am not making fun of you (and, again, if I was it wouldn't be too hard to tell. It would be clearly evident).
Is that a promise 😂