Originally posted by Tptmanno1
How do you know that?
Did you see it your self? Or are you just believing what the book cryptically says?
Where in any of my posts did I say I knew that? If your gonna question me don't put words in my mouth. If you read anything of what I said before I used the word BELIEF not KNOW. Christian belief is that heaven is what i said before.
Originally posted by Tptmanno1
You imply that every time you try to use your faith in an argument,
You say: "it IS and inconcievable...blah"
Good I'm glad your Belief is heaven, My belief is that it is not. What makes your better?
I didn't imply i kept a continuation of my statment going on, nothing was implied you just didn't read the top post
Originally posted by Tptmanno1
Of course it is, If you thought your opinion wasn't as good or better as someone else's you wouldn't have it.
Ok, but i didnt say thats the way it is, im stating my opinion. If you feel urs is better congratulations, but i never said my beliefs are better, i think they are better
Originally posted by gordomuchacho
No because liek i said before its an inconceivable great as in fantastic you want to be there kind of great
That's what they said about Disney land. Sure, it's fun and all for a while. Maybe even a long while. But eventually it gets a bit boring - fun can last for a long time, as can pleasure, but it is finite, and without achievement it seems hollow.
Which is what I want to know - what can one achieve after death? I get "it's great. Paradise. You'll just sit around and be content for all eternity." I would think, if a soul retained its free will after death, that eventually it would want to do something more, achieve something, anything.
i think its better because my belief gives me hope for soemthing gretaer than what I have now, and urs doesn't thats why in my opinion its better
Well that is fine. But it shouldn't lead you to think that a person who doesn't believe in the after life isn't just as happy, or more happy, then you are. In fact I have sometimes, in my studies, seen the opposite. A person of faith will get caught up in how good the next life will supposedly be that they loose the ability to appreciate this one. After all, when you think you are but a few years from "paradise" it is hards to go one with the ups and downs of normal life, and they are unhappy.
As it stands now I have hope for the future, but not in a God, but rather the things I have achieved, am achieving, and will achieve in my life.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
We are alive, the dead are not. We have power, the dead do not. We can shape the universe, the dead cannot.
Is this an assumption? Unless we have evidence of what the dead do or do not do, or even of their existence, isn't it premature to claim they cannot shape the universe in some way we are unable to perceive.
Originally posted by Imperial_SamuraWell that is fine. But it shouldn't lead you to think that a person who doesn't believe in the after life isn't just as happy, or more happy, then you are. In fact I have sometimes, in my studies, seen the opposite. A person of faith will get caught up in how good the next life will supposedly be that they loose the ability to appreciate this one. After all, when you think you are but a few years from "paradise" it is hards to go one with the ups and downs of normal life, and they are unhappy.
As it stands now I have hope for the future, but not in a God, but rather the things I have achieved, am achieving, and will achieve in my life.
I feel that you can lead a life full of happiness if you don't have similar views as mine and I don't think I said anywhere that you couldn't, I was merely tryign to make a point to tptmanno1 that i think my afterlife seems more appealing to me than a non-existent one, however, that does not mean my beliefs are better nor does that mean he or anyone else couldn't lead a fufilling life filled with achievement without these beliefs.