The Antithesis of Ragnos Owns All

Started by Lightsnake22 pages

1. No, that's basic 'move your saber here, reach out with your feelings' stuff...he wasn't teaching them how to fight, he was teaching them to use the Force

2. Dark rendevous states Dooku was always outside of Yoda;s guidance and elarning things aside from him. That';s all the proof I need. Your turn. One source...oh, and logical fallacy, proving a negative, tsk a tsk!

#1. I didn't ask you to prove a negative, I asked you to prove what other person could Dooku have learned it from. Nice reading..
#2. You're providing irrelevant text to cover your poor reasoning.
#3. Dooku was Yoda's student, so unless you can prove WHERE Dooku learned his form, it's more logical to assume it was from Yoda, his MASTER.

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Except Yoda says Dooku was always his most frustrating and difficult student. We know Dooku was a radical and nothing ever mentions Yoda used Makashi...Yoda is PHYSICALLY INCAPABLE of using anything but Ataru

I remember somewhere saying Yoda was a master of every lightsaber form.

In fact he is teaching children shii cho in AOTC.

Originally posted by Blue_Hefner
I remember somewhere saying Yoda was a master of every lightsaber form.

Everything except Vaapad I believe. Either way it's very logical to assume Dooku learned from Yoda since Yoda was Dooku's master and unless Dooku had another master "no proof", this stands.

No, you told me to prove Dooku didn't learn Makashi from Yoda...it's an order of ten thousand Jedi with dozens of saber instructors and even more holocrons.

No, actually, that text shows Yoda didn;t teach Dooku everything Dooku knows and Dooku was a radical student.

Yoda's stated to only use Ataru. There's nothing ever saying he uses other forms, let alone teach Dooku an archaic one...

Originally posted by Lightsnake
No, you told me to prove Dooku didn't learn Makashi from Yoda...it's an order of ten thousand Jedi with dozens of saber instructors and even more holocrons.

No, actually, that text shows Yoda didn;t teach Dooku everything Dooku knows and Dooku was a radical student.

Yoda's stated to only use Ataru. There's nothing ever saying he uses other forms, let alone teach Dooku an archaic one...

1. Yoda uses Ataru but knows 6 of the 7 forms
2. Yoda was Dooku's master
3. You have no proof Dooku trained from anybody else
4. Logical deduction points to Yoda.

1. Prove it.
2. Actually, Thame Cerulian was Dooku's real master.
3. Thame Cerulian. Dooku was his Padawan first.
4. Dooku also received training from holocrons he and Lorian Nod looked at, Yoda and Thame Cerulian...he considered Dooku his real master, but dooku was the padawan and official student of Master Cerulian

That's accordin to LEgacy of the Jedi, the chronology and Dark Rendevous

It says in the AOTC that Dooku saluted Yoda in a salute Yoda remembered teaching him 50 years ago.

1. Prove what forms this guy knew
2. All of a sudden you are ignorant in terms of the abilities of Yoda, because it destroys your argument? So I have to deal with your ignorance and prove Yoda knew 6 out of the 7 saber forms? Wow lightsnake I expected more.
3. How long was Dooku apprenticed to the other person?
4. Logical deduction still points to Yoda, sorry.

Originally posted by Blue_Hefner
It says in the AOTC that Dooku saluted Yoda in a salute Yoda remembered teaching him 50 years ago.

Yoda did teach Dooku, but Thame was his first master.

Originally posted by Blue_Hefner
It says in the AOTC that Dooku saluted Yoda in a salute Yoda remembered teaching him 50 years ago.

So it's fair to assume Yoda trained him for half of his life, there you go lightsnake.

Yoda did teach him, but Dooku was Thame's Padawan...in THREE sources, Thame is a famed council member who took Dooku as his padawan...and according to Legacy of the Jedi, instructed Dooku in the art of saber fighting! And dooku was apprenticed to Thame until his twenties, with Yoda taking an interest and helping Dooku in his studies. Dooku considered Yoda his true master

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
So it's fair to assume Yoda trained him for half of his life, there you go lightsnake.

Logical deduction wins in this case lightsnake. And unless you have sources on this Thame guy and his lightsaber forms, this should be conclusive enough for you.

Thame is stated to have taught Dooku how to duel and he was Dooku's master!
You lose!

Haven't shown us any quotes or proof nor the ability to use logical deduction. You Lose! Come back when you learn to argue

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
So it's fair to assume Yoda trained him for half of his life, there you go lightsnake.

Which proves Yoda taught Dooku Makashi.

Not conclusively, but logically. Lightsnake is in his usual denial.

Hey, moron: In Legacy of the Jedi, it states Thame Cerulian taught Dooku how to duel.

Dooku became a knight in his twenties...until then he was Thame Cerulian's padawan. Dude, you've LOST, just shut up! I have a quote saying Thame taught Dooku how to duel, you have NOTHING

DS, if you're not going to get to work on your semester crap, and you just wanna argue with Lightsnake and flaunt your supposed superiority, then get to work on my arguments.