Wendigo runs gauntlet

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Well basically the new Wendigo, which is imprisoned had a sorcessor as a host, named Mauvais. He was so strong even Dr.Strange was unsure if he could beat him

Mauvais: http://alphanex.alphaflight.net/index.php/Mauvais

This is the strongest physically Wendigo, as well as smartest and with magical powers that rival Dr.Strange

i read that

but i'm not convinced that guy rivals dr strange because of a quote.
he was not sure, did he find out for sure?

and his known powers are not off the scale like strange's either.

thoughts?

Originally posted by Dinalfos
You can't be equal to Hulk in strength if you have a set strength level. Wendigo(at least the conventional ones) can only hurt the Hulk up to a certain point. He then gets pissed and starts dishing out. Wendigo wouldn't be able to hurt him anymore, whereas Hulk can find a way. The Hulk is also a lot faster.

And yes, if you kill his host he comes back in another body. But still, that body has to be nearby if the fight is to continue.

It was stated as much, and actually the more flesh he eats the stronger he becomes. No he isn't faster, once in all his apperances they were equal in strength and speed but he still needed another person to finish him off.

Not by the rules of the board, if they can return to the battlefield on their own power the fight continues.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
It was stated as much, and actually the more flesh he eats the stronger he becomes. No he isn't faster, once in all his apperances they were equal in strength and speed but he still needed another person to finish him off.

Not by the rules of the board, if they can return to the battlefield on their own power the fight continues.

If Wendigo is anything like his bio states, then he can't begin to equal the Hulk.

Anyway, since Wendigo isn't really a stand alone character, I suppose defeating one does count as a win. Yes, he comes back, but that's not exactly the same thing as actually awaking from death all by yourself. There would have to be cannibals around for him to reemerge.

Originally posted by Dinalfos
If Wendigo is anything like his bio states, then he can't begin to equal the Hulk.

Anyway, since Wendigo isn't really a stand alone character, I suppose defeating one does count as a win. Yes, he comes back, but that's not exactly the same thing as actually awaking from death all by yourself. There would have to be cannibals around for him to reemerge.

What bio are you reading? and do you want me to actually post the comic book scans that actually state they were equal?

Well which Wendigo is this? if it's Earth X they don't stand much a chance or Mauvias. Also it's not just cannibals, it can even be by accident or in survival.

Originally posted by unknowable
i read that

but i'm not convinced that guy rivals dr strange because of a quote.
he was not sure, did he find out for sure?

and his known powers are not off the scale like strange's either.

thoughts?

He has fought the sorcessor supreme before strange and he needed help by the Northern Gods to imprison him.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
What bio are you reading? and do you want me to actually post the comic book scans that actually state they were equal?

Well which Wendigo is this? if it's Earth X they don't stand much a chance or Mauvias. Also it's not just cannibals, it can even be by accident or in survival.

How can you be equal to someone who's strength level can skyrocket withing seconds? It would seem like poor writing to me. But yes, I would like to see it in its exact context.

Still, what are the odds that would happen? I mean, it could, but it won't last too long.

Originally posted by Dinalfos
How can you be equal to someone who's strength level can skyrocket withing seconds? It would seem like poor writing to me.

Still, what are the odds?

Right I doubt that...all three fights against the Hulk it was the exact same outcome, they were equal but needed aid to finish the fight. It's not poor writing when it's stated in the comics that they are equal and shown.

Slim to none actually or you mean cannabilsm? actually quite high
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DD
2. Wolverine
3. Sabertooth
4. Alpha Male Predator
5. Abomination
6. Current Savage Hulk
7. Classic Juggernaut
8. Pre-Crisis Superman
9. Thanos
10. Galactus(full power)physically

I say he stops at 7 as he won't harm Jugz unless this is Mauvais.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Right I doubt that...all three fights against the Hulk it was the exact same outcome, they were equal but needed aid to finish the fight. It's not poor writing when it's stated in the comics that they are equal and shown.

Slim to none actually or you mean cannabilsm? actually quite high

I've seen most of the fights. Spiderman also unnecessarily stalemates foes far below his level. You just can't be equal to something that fluctuates more often than not. It would conflict the nature of the Hulk character.

Somehow I really doubt that Wendigo's respawing will result in a never ending battle. Unless the curse can affect animals as well.

Originally posted by Dinalfos
I've seen most of the fights. Spiderman also unnecessarily stalemates foes far below his level. You just can't be equal to something that fluctuates more often than not. It would conflict the nature of the Hulk character.

Somehow I really doubt that Wendigo's respawing will result in a never ending battle. Unless the curse can affect animals as well.

If you actually have you would have read the two brutes hit with equal force and that they were equal..ya da da da. It's stated for a fact, you might not like it however, in all his apperances he was shown to be equal and once again to finish the fight needed aid, wether it be Wolverine, Sasquatch or Captain Marvel.

Actually cannabilism is a common occurance throughout the world actually, all he needs is just one person in Canada. Well the incarnation that fought Captain Marvel and the Hulk the curse was transfered to a fish.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
If you actually have you would have read the two brutes hit with equal force and that they were equal..ya da da da. It's stated for a fact, you might not like it however, in all his apperances he was shown to be equal and once again to finish the fight needed aid, wether it be Wolverine, Sasquatch or Captain Marvel.

Actually cannabilism is a common occurance throughout the world actually, all he needs is just one person in Canada. Well the incarnation that fought Captain Marvel and the Hulk the curse was transfered to a fish.

Post the scans. I believe that it happened on panel, but I want to judge for myself. You must remember that these fights are also supposed to be CIS and PIS free.

Originally posted by Dinalfos
Post the scans. I believe that it happened on panel, but I want to judge for myself. You must remember that these fights are also supposed to be CIS and PIS free.

Which fight, and so you havn't actually read the fights then have you?

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Which fight, and so you havn't actually read the fights then have you?

I'm sure I have read them. But I can't remember everything since I pretty much read everything. Anyway, the Banner-Hulk fight doesn't really count.

Originally posted by Dinalfos
I'm sure I have read them. But I can't remember everything since I pretty much read everything. Anyway, the Banner-Hulk fight doesn't really count.

Fight 1: Savage Hulk w/Wolverine vs. Wendigo
Fight 2: Intelligent Hulk w/Sasquatch vs. Wendigo
Fight 3: Hulk w/Captain Marvel vs. Wendigo

Which?

In the Captain Marvel issue, they both happen to fight him. It also wasn't Savage Hulk.

The only fight that points towards your theory is the one with Wolverine. But Wolverine was filling. He was really unneeded. And again, the issue conflicts the Hulk's character. Sure he can take a lot, he's very durable. But not durable enough for a pissed Hulk. And Hulk didn't seem too pissed or viscious in that fight, if I remember correctly.

But I´d like to see the Wolverine fight again.

Here's just a few scans from their first confrontation, and this was before he fully became Wendigo fully unleashed and when his humanity was holding back:
1. http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j165/A_Flight10/TheIncredibleHulkv2-162-08.jpg
2. http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j165/A_Flight10/TheIncredibleHulkv2-162-09.jpg
3. http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j165/A_Flight10/TheIncredibleHulkv2-162-10.jpg
4. http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j165/A_Flight10/TheIncredibleHulkv2-162-11.jpg
5. http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j165/A_Flight10/TheIncredibleHulkv2-162-12.jpg
6. http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j165/A_Flight10/TheIncredibleHulkv2-162-14.jpg
7. http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j165/A_Flight10/TheIncredibleHulkv2-162-15.jpg
8. http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j165/A_Flight10/TheIncredibleHulkv2-162-16.jpg
9. http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j165/A_Flight10/TheIncredibleHulkv2-162-17.jpg
10. http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j165/A_Flight10/TheIncredibleHulkv2-162-18.jpg
11. http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j165/A_Flight10/TheIncredibleHulkv2-162-19.jpg
12. http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j165/A_Flight10/TheIncredibleHulkv2-162-20.jpg

I'll get the other scans either tonight or tommorow.

Originally posted by Dinalfos
In the Captain Marvel issue, they both happen to fight him. It also wasn't Savage Hulk.

The only fight that points towards your theory is the one with Wolverine. But Wolverine was filling. He was really unneeded. And again, the issue conflicts the Hulk's character. Sure he can take a lot, he's very durable. But not durable enough for a pissed Hulk. And Hulk didn't seem too pissed or viscious in that fight, if I remember correctly.

But I´d like to see the Wolverine fight again.

but Captain Marvel and the Hulk fought him at the same time.

Wolverine interupted the fight and they worked together to beat him. Actually all his fights he is pissed off

Hulk confrontation #2
1. http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j165/A_Flight10/TheIncredibleHulkv2-180-13.jpg
2. http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j165/A_Flight10/TheIncredibleHulkv2-180-14.jpg
3. http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j165/A_Flight10/TheIncredibleHulkv2-180-15.jpg
4. http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j165/A_Flight10/TheIncredibleHulkv2-180-16.jpg
5. http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j165/A_Flight10/TheIncredibleHulkv2-180-17.jpg
6. http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j165/A_Flight10/TheIncredibleHulkv2-180-18.jpg

Just as I figured, the last fight makes no sense. I remember it now. The Hulk wasn't raving mad pissed. He was angry, but not THAT angry. The Hulk will become enraged when something happens that hits home emotionally or when he realizes his enemy can't be defeated with his normal strength.

And if he was, it doesn't make sense. Maybe the Hulk enjoys a good battle, eventhough he says he doesn't? But seriously, the first fight you showed had Hulk increase his strength towards the end of it. Wendigo then struck him when he was calming down. The Hulk could've finished the fight if he wanted to.

And why in godsname would the Hulk need Wolverine? What does he add except forceless strikes with his claws? Again, this is a fight without PIS or CIS.

Originally posted by Dinalfos
Just as I figured, the last fight makes no sense. I remember it now. The Hulk wasn't raving mad pissed. He was angry, but not THAT angry. The Hulk will become enraged when something happens that hits home emotionally or when he realizes his enemy can't be defeated with his normal strength.

And if he was, it doesn't make sense. Maybe the Hulk enjoys a good battle, eventhough he says he doesn't? But seriously, the first fight you showed had Hulk increase his strength towards the end of it. Wendigo then struck him when he was calming down. The Hulk could've finished the fight if he wanted to.

And why in godsname would the Hulk need Wolverine? What does he add except forceless strikes with his claws? Again, this is a fight without PIS or CIS.

Wasn't raving mad? you nuts? both were dealing blows that said "would crush a mountain". He even hulked out in the first confronation and Wendigo was none the worse for wear and it was still a Wendigo that was actually holding back as he was still part human.

Highly unliklely as I have over 200 apperances of the Hulk, as he is my brother's favorite character and this is a exact typical fight as any other. Hulk was even the one who started the second fight, when the Wendigo was calm and summoned by magic.

Ummmm....the scans I showed had no PIS or CIS, I'm not sure you fully grasp the concept

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Wasn't raving mad? you nuts? both were dealing blows that said "would crush a mountain". He even hulked out in the first confronation and Wendigo was none the worse for wear and it was still a Wendigo that was actually holding back as he was still part human.

Highly unliklely as I have over 200 apperances of the Hulk, as he is my brother's favorite character and this is a exact typical fight as any other. Hulk was even the one who started the second fight, when the Wendigo was calm and summoned by magic.

Ummmm....the scans I showed had no PIS or CIS, I'm not sure you fully grasp the concept

No, he wasn't raving mad. If he was, they wouldn't be trading blows. Wendigo cannot stand up to strength that keeps increasing. Especially since Wendigo and Hulk apparantly start out on more or less the same level. If Wendigo is immortal, then Hulk's strength would've gone up far quicker, since he simply can't handle someone not bowing to him in a fight. That's just the nature of the beast. That leads me to believe that Hulk was not that enraged. A bit riled up, perhaps a bit pissed, but not enraged. Either that, or the writer simply doesn't understand the concept of the Hulk's physiology. Or he simply doesn't care too much about consistency and was trying to make it an even match. Again, these Forum fights are supposed to be PIS/CIS/Jobbing free, unless stated otherwise.

Yes, Hulk started the second fight. But remember that he wasn't out to kill or Kayoe Wendigo. He almost never is. Dalak said it in another thread: Hulk wants to prove that he is the strongest or that he can overcome all odds. If he can prove that by someone accepting his defeat while remaining conscious or beating that person unconscious doesn't really matter to Hulk. Although he'd rather have that person to be awake so that he can make a lasting impression on him. The thing he wants the most ist that his enemies stop bothering him or the ones he loves/cares about. A bloodlusted Hulk is a rarity and wouldn't be concerned with strength tests.