Originally posted by hulkrulz
You guys are aguin over if he can die, yes he can, the physical form can die.He clears
Actually stated several times they his physical form couldn't die, as he would keep arising time and time again and a "killing" blow as stated by Wolverine only temporally knocked him out.
i thought that only magic could hurt or kill the wendigo, yes hulk punched him and all that, but the wendigo just kept coming, hes like vampires and other mistical things, you can hur them whit conventioonal non magical things, but they arent hurt as thay should be and they can regenerate from that kind of wounds, mauavis ripped his heart out with a magical manifestation in form of a blade, so dont anibody say that just by ripping his heart out you win.
Originally posted by King_Mungi
That was poorly written as Wolverine tried and failed to do the same thing, he even admited his adamintium claws barely did anything to him.
Your opinion on the writing is not important. The fact is that Wendigo does indeed die when his heart is torn out. We may disagree on Sabretooth's ability to do so, but Wendigo can be killed (at least until somebody else commits cannibalism in the Lake Wendigo region).
Re: Wendigo runs gauntlet
Originally posted by hulkrulzwow! thanos, DD, Galactus, and PC supes under hulk! that is laughable 😆 😂 he dosent make it past #4 and the only way he'd make it past thanos is if he slipped on a bannanna peel or something
Wendigo with a strong host runs a guantlet on his home terf.1. Wolverine
2. Sabretooth
3. Thanos
4. DD
5. Galactus(full power)physically
6. Pre-Crisis Supes
7. Abomination
8. JUggernaut
9. Alpha Male Predator
10. Current Savage HulkDoes he survive?
Originally posted by Sabretooth
Your opinion on the writing is not important. The fact is that Wendigo does indeed die when his heart is torn out. We may disagree on Sabretooth's ability to do so, but Wendigo can be killed (at least until somebody else commits cannibalism in the Lake Wendigo region).
Except in over 10 apperances of the Wendigo they state that Wendigo is immortal in human form not just the spirit. So one event that goes completly out of character makes it ok? Hell I can post several comments from the actual comics that state the human host is immortal
Originally posted by King_Mungi
Except in over 10 apperances of the Wendigo they state that Wendigo is immortal in human form not just the spirit. So one event that goes completly out of character makes it ok? Hell I can post several comments from the actual comics that state the human host is immortal
Which one event are you referring to? The one event where Sabretooth tears out Wendigo's heart or the one event where Mauvais tears out Wendigo's heart? Wait a minute, that's two events. Wendigo's host body has died by having it's heart removed on more than one occasion. Now, why are you so willing to accept the time Mauvais did it but not Sabretooth? Magic? Wendigo has been hurt by plenty of nonmagical things in the past: Wolverine's claws, Sabretooth's claws, bullets, Hulk's fists, broken trees, fire, and even an ordinary axe. Are you going to tell me all those times Wendigo has been hurt are PIS? You can only use words like "immortality" and "PIS" so many times before you accept that Wendigo can be hurt and killed, and both have happened more than once. It has also been stated several times in comics that vampires are considered immortal as well, but like Wendigo, they can be hurt and killed. Vampires don't do well against sunlight or wooden stakes and Wendigo has this thing with getting it's heart ripped out. Wendigo has a weakness. Accept it.
Now, follow my logic here:
1. Wendigo's host body can be killed by having it's heart removed. It has happened more than once.
2. If an ordinary axe can cut Wendigo, it can cut out Wendigo's heart.
3. Anybody on this list with the strength or a means of penetrating Wendigo's skin have a chance at removing the heart and killing Wendigo.
Originally posted by King_Mungi
No it's called PIS, ie plot induced stupidity as if he didn't "die" Mauvais wouldn't have become the Wendigo himself. Plus technically there can be multiple Wendigo's at once roaming Canada.
Mauvais didn't become Wendigo by tearing Andre's heart out. He became Wendigo after he ATE Andre's heart. Killing Wendigo doesn't make you Wendigo. You have to eat the heart to have the curse effect you. The mystical spirit of Wendigo is indeed immortal, but the physical body can be hurt and killed.
Originally posted by Sabretooth
Which one event are you referring to? The one event where Sabretooth tears out Wendigo's heart or the one event where Mauvais tears out Wendigo's heart? Wait a minute, that's two events. Wendigo's host body has died by having it's heart removed on more than one occasion. Now, why are you so willing to accept the time Mauvais did it but not Sabretooth? Magic? Wendigo has been hurt by plenty of nonmagical things in the past: Wolverine's claws, Sabretooth's claws, bullets, Hulk's fists, broken trees, fire, and even an ordinary axe. Are you going to tell me all those times Wendigo has been hurt are PIS? You can only use words like "immortality" and "PIS" so many times before you accept that Wendigo can be hurt and killed, and both have happened more than once. It has also been stated several times in comics that vampires are considered immortal as well, but like Wendigo, they can be hurt and killed. Vampires don't do well against sunlight or wooden stakes and Wendigo has this thing with getting it's heart ripped out. Wendigo has a weakness. Accept it.Now, follow my logic here:
1. Wendigo's host body can be killed by having it's heart removed. It has happened more than once.
2. If an ordinary axe can cut Wendigo, it can cut out Wendigo's heart.
3. Anybody on this list with the strength or a means of penetrating Wendigo's skin have a chance at removing the heart and killing Wendigo.
Mauvais didn't become Wendigo by tearing Andre's heart out. He became Wendigo after he ATE Andre's heart. Killing Wendigo doesn't make you Wendigo. You have to eat the heart to have the curse effect you. The mystical spirit of Wendigo is indeed immortal, but the physical body can be hurt and killed.
Sabertooth is horrible written as wooden spikes impaled Sasquatch...the guy has taken tank shells and armor peircing machine gun fire and it didn't penetrate his hide..yet wood? Poor writing. You don't seem to grapd the concept of PIS, as a non-jobbing Wendigo as stated withstand all injury short of a direct nuclear explosion". Mauvais used a magical blade and is a mystic user rivialing Dr.Strange, so don't you dare compare the Sabertooth event with Mauvais. As Wolverine with adamintium claws failed to do anything remotly like that. Uhhhhh....man read the rules of the board, it's the opponents best showings, not when they job. Good lord, one Wendigo stalemated Captain Marvel and Hulk at the same time. Dude, 98% of Wendigo's appearances state he is immortal and can't be killed so that makes the 2% accuarate? no not on this board. Wolverine stabbed him in the brain with his adamintium claws and moment later he was back up all fine thanks to his healing factor. Your inncorrect, horribly if you believe the Sabertooth incident is a good indication of what Wendigo is capable of. You should be the one who needs to except facts, instead of a badly written story that goes against the entire Wendigo mythos.
1. Mauvais going it is fine as it was a magical blade, and was from a magic user that rivaled Dr.Strange. Are you seriously implying the Sabertooth incident was accurate as Wolverine tried the same feat and failed?
2. Wait what? you do realize as stated Wendigo possesses demi-god durability which allows him and I quote to "withstand all injury short of a direct nuclear explosion". So an axe? nuh uh.
3. No, as stated and shown even Wolverine with adamintium claws admitted he was barely doing anything to him.
First off it wasn't Andre, and secondly I never said killing Wendigo makes you Wendigo as I am the one who did the entire Wendigo bio page. I know the mythos and I know what he is capable of. Wrong, as STATED IN THE COMICS, the mortal host is immortal
Here's just one incident out of many that states the person who becomes Wendigo is immortal and unkillable
1. http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j165/A_Flight10/mcp-113b-17.jpg
2. http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j165/A_Flight10/mcp-113b-18.jpg
Originally posted by King_Mungi
Sabertooth is horrible written as wooden spikes impaled Sasquatch...the guy has taken tank shells and armor peircing machine gun fire and it didn't penetrate his hide..yet wood? Poor writing. You don't seem to grapd the concept of PIS, as a non-jobbing Wendigo as stated withstand all injury short of a direct nuclear explosion". Mauvais used a magical blade and is a mystic user rivialing Dr.Strange, so don't you dare compare the Sabertooth event with Mauvais. As Wolverine with adamintium claws failed to do anything remotly like that. Uhhhhh....man read the rules of the board, it's the opponents best showings, not when they job. Good lord, one Wendigo stalemated Captain Marvel and Hulk at the same time. Dude, 98% of Wendigo's appearances state he is immortal and can't be killed so that makes the 2% accuarate? no not on this board. Wolverine stabbed him in the brain with his adamintium claws and moment later he was back up all fine thanks to his healing factor. Your inncorrect, horribly if you believe the Sabertooth incident is a good indication of what Wendigo is capable of. You should be the one who needs to except facts, instead of a badly written story that goes against the entire Wendigo mythos.
Know what? I really don't care what the comics STATE about Wendigo's durability. I care about what the comics have SHOWN about Wendigo's durability. The comics have shown Wendigo get injured several times by nonmagical items. I gave examples of some of the things that have harmed it in my previous post. Quit throwing the board rules at me. If the mods have a problem they will let me know. You shouldn't try throwing around weight that belongs to somebody else. I have followed the rules by backing up my claims with examples from canon sources. The events that you backhandedly dismiss as PIS are recurring events that happen a whole lot more than 2% of the time. Personally, I think that when Wendigo surviving anything close to a direct nuclear explosion would be just as ridiculously over the top as when Wolverine did it. THAT crap was PIS. If you want to keep on believing Wendigo has that kind of durability, that's your problem. I have seen too much evidence to the contrary to accept that Wendigo is on that level. You still seem to cling to the notion that Sabretooth injuring Wendigo is a one time thing. Wendigo can be and has been hurt in the past more times than two and he hasn't had 100 appearances yet so do the math and stop exaggerating to try to prove your point.
Originally posted by King_Mungi
1. Mauvais going it is fine as it was a magical blade, and was from a magic user that rivaled Dr.Strange. Are you seriously implying the Sabertooth incident was accurate as Wolverine tried the same feat and failed?
2. Wait what? you do realize as stated Wendigo possesses demi-god durability which allows him and I quote to "withstand all injury short of a direct nuclear explosion". So an axe? nuh uh.
3. No, as stated and shown even Wolverine with adamintium claws admitted he was barely doing anything to him.
1. A magical blade cut in to Wendigo, but Mauvis tore Wendigo's heart out with his bare hands. I have no misconceptions about Sabretooth being anywhere on the same level as Mauvis, but given the things that have harmed Wendigo in the past, I do think Sabretooth is strong enough to injure or even kill Wendigo. Call me "fanboy" if you want, but Sabretooth is considerably more dangerous that and axe or a bullet or a tree. all three have harmed Wendigo in the past.
2. From what I have seen on this board, most people don't really give much credibility to the official guidebooks. And considering how many times I have seen him get injured by far less than something that would hurt only a demi-god, I have to take the whole "durability of a demi-god" thing with a grain of salt.
3. Real easy this time: Do you consider EVERY time Wendigo is hurt in the comics PIS? Yes or No? Forget about Sabretooth. What about the other times? Are they ALL PIS? I think all the times they hug Wendigo's nuts by saying it's immortal or can't be hurt they are doing nothing more than trying oversell the character and give it more credibility than it deserves. There, I said it. Wendigo is not Classic Juggernaut. It has been hurt several times in the past by FAR less than a nuclear explosion.
Originally posted by King_Mungi
First off it wasn't Andre, and secondly I never said killing Wendigo makes you Wendigo as I am the one who did the entire Wendigo bio page. I know the mythos and I know what he is capable of. Wrong, as STATED IN THE COMICS, the mortal host is immortal
Originally posted by Sabretooth
Know what? I really don't care what the comics STATE about Wendigo's durability. I care about what the comics have SHOWN about Wendigo's durability. The comics have shown Wendigo get injured several times by nonmagical items. I gave examples of some of the things that have harmed it in my previous post. Quit throwing the board rules at me. If the mods have a problem they will let me know. You shouldn't try throwing around weight that belongs to somebody else. I have followed the rules by backing up my claims with examples from canon sources. The events that you backhandedly dismiss as PIS are recurring events that happen a whole lot more than 2% of the time. Personally, I think that when Wendigo surviving anything close to a direct nuclear explosion would be just as ridiculously over the top as when Wolverine did it. THAT crap was PIS. If you want to keep on believing Wendigo has that kind of durability, that's your problem. I have seen too much evidence to the contrary to accept that Wendigo is on that level. You still seem to cling to the notion that Sabretooth injuring Wendigo is a one time thing. Wendigo can be and has been hurt in the past more times than two and he hasn't had 100 appearances yet so do the math and stop exaggerating to try to prove your point.1. A magical blade cut in to Wendigo, but Mauvis tore Wendigo's heart out with his bare hands. I have no misconceptions about Sabretooth being anywhere on the same level as Mauvis, but given the things that have harmed Wendigo in the past, I do think Sabretooth is strong enough to injure or even kill Wendigo. Call me "fanboy" if you want, but Sabretooth is considerably more dangerous that and axe or a bullet or a tree. all three have harmed Wendigo in the past.
2. From what I have seen on this board, most people don't really give much credibility to the official guidebooks. And considering how many times I have seen him get injured by far less than something that would hurt only a demi-god, I have to take the whole "durability of a demi-god" thing with a grain of salt.
3. Real easy this time: Do you consider EVERY time Wendigo is hurt in the comics PIS? Yes or No? Forget about Sabretooth. What about the other times? Are they ALL PIS? I think all the times they hug Wendigo's nuts by saying it's immortal or can't be hurt they are doing nothing more than trying oversell the character and give it more credibility than it deserves. There, I said it. Wendigo is not Classic Juggernaut. It has been hurt several times in the past by FAR less than a nuclear explosion.First off, according the marvel.com it WAS Andre. See for yourself: http://www.marvel.com/universe/Wendigo Now, why don't you tell Marvel that you know more about Wendigo than they do instead of trying to convince me you know more than I do. Secondly, no offense, but your grammar was horrible in that sentence so maybe I got a little confused. If that is the case the I apologize, but "...if he didn't "die" Mauvis wouldn't have become Wendigo himself." and "You can't kill Wendigo as proof he became Wendigo himself" and " By a mystic that rivaled Dr. Strange, and in turn became the Wendigo himself." sounds like you're implying that one goes hand-in-hand with the other. Thirdly, Yes. As SHOWN IN THE COMICS, he has been killed TWICE. Both times by having his heart removed. It's not that hard to make a connection between "heart torn out" and "dead-ass Wendigo".
Ummm...comics have stated the exact same thing. His durability is equal to the Hulk's. Once again I will repeat this, there are several incarnations of Wendigo some stronger than others. We go by their BEST feats on this board, not their worst. The rules are made for a reason, if you don't like them go else where. Except you back up a claim that goes against 98% of other Wendigo apperances. Actually no, you claimed the Wendigo could be killed. The two times goes against what was stated and shown. So if something is stated and shown and a event later contradicts it, that makes it ok? not at all. Gah! that's what is said and shown in the comics, he can't be killed he's immortal and unkillable as said. Hulk has demi-god durability and more than once Hulk needed someone else just to stalemate or beat him. Where have I said Wendigo can't be hurt?
1. Once again magical, he spent all this time preping and isn't something easier to rip out when it's already cut for you? Also you do realize Wendio was weakened...why you ask? Mauvais cut the connection to the Gods of the Arctic off. Why is that important? Even Snowbird without the connection began to weaken with each passing moment, Wendigo wouldn't be an exception as he is powered by the Gods as well. Injuire sure, kill...HELL NO! Once again goes against 98% what was shown in the comics, and 100% what was stated in the handbooks. Once again, there have been several different incarnations in the past, some weak some stronger. Such as the passive Wendigo is not a typical Wendigo that was hurt by a bullet. Andre wasn't hurt by the axe he was hurt by the fire that was caused by the axe.
2. Except it was even stated in the comics, even by Wolverine, Hulk, Mauvais, Captain Marvel, Werewolf by Night, Alpha Flight, etc. Once again different incarnations are stronger than others. Such as one took on Hulk and Sabertooth at the same time, one took on Captain Mar-Vell and Hulk at the same time, one took on Alpha Flight w/Wolverine and created a Wendigo army, etc. etc.
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j165/A_Flight10/uxm140pg16.jpg
3. I never said he couldn't be hurt now did I? but due to his healing factor and mystical spell it's damn near impossible to do anything serious as noted by Wolverine. You kept claiming Wendigo can be killed, which is in fact completly wrong and against the mythos and we don't follow on this board as it's their best showings not worst.
Marvel.com bios are made by the fans their not offical, Hell even I added a bio on the site. You know why it's not Andre? the Wendigo had all his fingers, Andre doesn't. The wonders of actually doing the research yourself instead of commenting on someones grammer. You do realize there are still 4 other Wendigo's unaccountable do you?
edit: Another scan saying comparable strength to the Hulk and virtually impossible to kill
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j165/A_Flight10/TheOfficialHandbookoftheMarvelUnive.jpg
Wolverine admitting the attack should have killed him, but it didn't. Another comment made, the Wendigo can't be harmed
1. http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j165/A_Flight10/TheIncredibleHulkv2-181-06.jpg
2. http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j165/A_Flight10/TheIncredibleHulkv2-181-07.jpg
2nd edit: more scans commenting on his invulnerability
1. http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j165/A_Flight10/uxm139pg19.jpg
2. http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j165/A_Flight10/uxm140pg13.jpg