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Sorry everyone.

Are we all still friends?

Were we ever?

But face it peeps. If anything kin of remains in popular culture from the PT it may be JarJar. From the OT it's lightsabres, Darth Vader, "No, I am your father.", Chewbacca, R2-D2 and C-3PO and several lines. From the PT there is no such memorable moment as movies can still make them. It's not exclusive to the 70s and 80s. POTC made such an impact, The Matrix did, LOTR did... it's all very possible, but the PT failed to deliver such an impact. Despite the fact that Lucas had no limitations in realising his vision. Personally, I think that's a missed opportunity at least.

Originally posted by queeq
Were we ever?

But face it peeps. If anything kin of remains in popular culture from the PT it may be JarJar. From the OT it's lightsabres, Darth Vader, "No, I am your father.", Chewbacca, R2-D2 and C-3PO and several lines. From the PT there is no such memorable moment as movies can still make them. It's not exclusive to the 70s and 80s. POTC made such an impact, The Matrix did, LOTR did... it's all very possible, but the PT failed to deliver such an impact. Despite the fact that Lucas had no limitations in realising his vision. Personally, I think that's a missed opportunity at least.

Yeah, the PT made the lightsaber battles even cooler.

No, they made them flashier.

Originally posted by Darth Subjekt
No, they made them flashier.

And faster, and more intense! 🙂

intense as in shallow... sure.

Originally posted by Darth Subjekt
intense as in shallow... sure.

So you would have liked them better if they dumbed down the effects, limited the sound effects to 5, and had no music?

I guess if George told the actors to move slower it would make it all the better right?

No music - definitely. George said he never wanted music with his duels (duels has an E, mind you, not an A, Dual means 2, not fighting) because the lightsabers sound was musical and he thought music would cheapen the fights.... my how he was right.

What you seem seem to still not be understanding, is that just because they jump around and do majorette twirls with their lightsabers, doesn't make them better. I prefer exactly 1 and half PT duels to the OT ones. Ani vs OB1 and the last half of TPM when OB1 comes bursting in at Maul. And that's ONLY because GL said that they were both trying to be the better sword fighter (in real life) and that carried over to film. They (Ewan and Ray) actually broke multiple prop sabers in the process. And really, I only like that one over ANH's duel.

Originally posted by Darth Subjekt
HAHA, damn you nailed this part! I was actually grinning the entire time I was reading that. That's why I miss you around here so much.

I remember the good old days too. 🙂 Almost 4 years ago. All the fun, the anticipation of Episode 3, the role playing. Couldn't beat it. And...we share the same birthday. 💃

About the duels, gernally, I like the duels of the PT better, however, not all of them.

Take for example, Mace vs Palpatine, which I thought was arguably the worst and cheesiest duel of the 6 movies. I loved Revenge of the Sith, don't get me wrong, but that fight could have been alot more.

Think back to the duel between Luke and Vader in ESB. It wasn't very flashy or faced pace, yet the atmosphere...the darkness...they way Vader just dissapears and leaves Luke helplessly searching around for him. A soft windy ambience in the background. Then out of no where, Vader's red saber illuminates the air.

That duel says so many things. It shows the true power and tyranny of Vader. It shows that Luke is afraid, even though he says to Yoda he isn't. Not to mention the part where Luke and Vader's saber clashes are matching the music. Awesome stuff.

Yea, but the only time music played was in the 2nd part when Vader used more force powers rather than his saber, and softly after he cut his hand off. That little bit is ok, but when the music is all throughout the duel and is louder than the sabers - I can't stand it.

I agree with you there. Music doesn't compare to the sound of those sabers hurling around through the air.

THe fights were technically better in the PT and better choreographed. But it didn't add anything new to lightsabres in general. Well, apart from the excellent double lightsabre Maul had.

Originally posted by Darth Subjekt
No music - definitely. George said he never wanted music with his duels (duels has an E, mind you, not an A, Dual means 2, not fighting) because the lightsabers sound was musical and he thought music would cheapen the fights.... my how he was right.

What you seem seem to still not be understanding, is that just because they jump around and do majorette twirls with their lightsabers, doesn't make them better. I prefer exactly 1 and half PT duels to the OT ones. Ani vs OB1 and the last half of TPM when OB1 comes bursting in at Maul. And that's ONLY because GL said that they were both trying to be the better sword fighter (in real life) and that carried over to film. They (Ewan and Ray) actually broke multiple prop sabers in the process. And really, I only like that one over ANH's duel.

I think having no music with the duals worked in the OT becuase more emotion was behind those battles becuase it was between people with history and even father-son connections. The last part of the TPM lightsaber fight didn't have much music. I don't remember much in II also. But it was obvious in III, which I liked.

Oh well...whatever you like I guess. I mean after watching the PT movies at the theatre after the movie I was jumping around pretending I had a lightsaber and stuff, making sounds, etc. It was a lot of fun. I don't remember doing that after the OT. Of course I never saw them in the cinima though.

The only duals I didn't like much was the Samual L. Motherfu!@ing Jackson VS Palpatine and the Obi-Wan VS Dooku in ATOC.

Originally posted by sweersa
I think having no music with the duals worked in the OT becuase more emotion was behind those battles becuase it was between people with history and even father-son connections. The last part of the TPM lightsaber fight didn't have much music. I don't remember much in II also. But it was obvious in III, which I liked.

Oh well...whatever you like I guess. I mean after watching the PT movies at the theatre after the movie I was jumping around pretending I had a lightsaber and stuff, making sounds, etc. It was a lot of fun. I don't remember doing that after the OT. Of course I never saw them in the cinima though.

The only duals I didn't like much was the Samual L. Motherfu!@ing Jackson VS Palpatine and the Obi-Wan VS Dooku in ATOC.

I did see them (OT) in theatre wheelchair ..lol... but the mace fight I thought was okay as the jedi prevailed till annie commited mutiny..lol...the obi versus dooku I agree 100% though

Originally posted by Jack Daniels
I did see them (OT) in theatre wheelchair ..lol... but the mace fight I thought was okay as the jedi prevailed till annie commited mutiny..lol...the obi versus dooku I agree 100% though

Hahaha funny smile. Yeah...Obi-Wan convieniently sucks whenever he fights Dooku.

Cause Dooku is conveniently better than OB1. 😬

it was his grandpa master...lol

That was something I never understood, why Obi-Wan could beat a guy wielding 4 sabers at a time, two sabers at a time, plus Anakin, but he couldn't beat an old geezer like Count Dooku. lol

Ah well...that's the great thing about movies, they are just movies.

It's a weirdness I fear not to discuss again. It just doesn't make sense. Maybe the lightsabre-fighting-style nerds have the answer.

Originally posted by Sith Master X
That was something I never understood, why Obi-Wan could beat a guy wielding 4 sabers at a time, two sabers at a time, plus Anakin, but he couldn't beat an old geezer like Count Dooku. lol

Ah well...that's the great thing about movies, they are just movies.

I think it is because Obi-Wan just has a hard time against Dooku's fighting style.