Originally posted by Darth Subjekt
No, Dooku is much better than OB1, and the only reason he could fend off Yoda, is cause Yoda wasn't trying to hurt Dooku. Only capture him. OB1 is no match for Dooku saber wise.
Plus Dooku has the curved lightsaber hilt. So do all older Jedi lightsaber hilts eventually curve with age?
Originally posted by queeq
It's a weirdness I fear not to discuss again. It just doesn't make sense. Maybe the lightsabre-fighting-style nerds have the answer.
Indeed! the real reason is that General grevious isn't a jedi and does not have any precognition abilities. He also is not a saber master. Dooku is an 80 year master of makashi, the form that is most like fencing, and was designed especially for dueling. Anakin won over dooku due to his imense force reserves causing him to hit far too hard for dooku's "glance aside" parries to defend against.
Originally posted by Lord Knightfa11
Indeed! the real reason is that General grevious isn't a jedi and does not have any precognition abilities. He also is not a saber master. Dooku is an 80 year master of makashi, the form that is most like fencing, and was designed especially for dueling. Anakin won over dooku due to his imense force reserves causing him to hit far too hard for dooku's "glance aside" parries to defend against.
Makashi? We got a SuperShadow Jr. over here.
Hahaha.
Originally posted by Darth Subjekt
Why do you try to talk shit about saber forms when they're mentioned IN THE NOVEL AND ARE CANON?
Not necessarily...
"When it comes to absolute canon, the real story of Star Wars, you must turn to the films themselves — and only the films. Even novelizations are interpretations of the film, and while they are largely true to George Lucas' vision (he works quite closely with the novel authors), the method in which they are written does allow for some minor differences. The novelizations are written concurrently with the film's production, so variations in detail do creep in from time to time. Nonetheless, they should be regarded as very accurate depictions of the fictional Star Wars movies." - 2001 "Ask the Jedi Council" response by Steve Sansweet (director of fan relations) and Chris Cerasi (an editor for Lucas Books at the time)
I would consider the lightsaber forms a creeping variation, you can always ask the creator George about all of the names of the lightsaber forms, but I think we all know he would have no idea...
Hmmm... nice quote.
But officially the books are canon. And so are the lightsabre fighting styles. For me personally, I think it's so bizarre to debate them because you can never really say something about them. They have vague descriptions in the novels and you only see them in a very few select confrontations at work. So... how can you say something sensible about them.
Did Ob1 fight with his style in ANH?
Originally posted by queeq
Hmmm... nice quote.But officially the books are canon. And so are the lightsabre fighting styles. For me personally, I think it's so bizarre to debate them because you can never really say something about them. They have vague descriptions in the novels and you only see them in a very few select confrontations at work. So... how can you say something sensible about them.
Did Ob1 fight with his style in ANH?
No, because I doubt the styles existed back then lol. I think the whole style thing is moot because everybody always has their own "style." To limit yourself to a certain classification of a style is odd enough. These are Jedi, they do what they have to do to overtake an enemy.
What style did Luke use in ESB and ROTJ? Also, Obi-Wan totally fought differently against Count Dooku than Darth Vader (ROTS)
I doubt Nic Gillard and Uncle George actually thought about the fighting styles while they filmed and edited...it is just a useless detail thrown into one of the books or whatever...