And...
... yes. That's the main one of those "ideas" that stuck out to me. So I commented on it.
One website's opinion is hardly "evidence." Its just that... opinion. Look, we've been through this. Box office totals speak louder than anyone with a website ever could. Proof is there in the proverbial pudding. I'm done arguing about that. You prefer the PT. Great. I prefer the OT. That's great too. Done.
Originally posted by Darth Subjekt
And...... yes. That's the main one of those "ideas" that stuck out to me. So I commented on it.
One website's opinion is hardly "evidence." Its just that... opinion. Look, we've been through this. Box office totals speak louder than anyone with a website ever could. Proof is there in the proverbial pudding. I'm done arguing about that. You prefer the PT. Great. I prefer the OT. That's great too. Done.
Well, it isn't really the sites opinion, they had evidence to back it up of old review data and such.
Box office totals do speak louder. (After inflation is taken into consideration right?)
lol
Originally posted by Darth Subjekt
Really? What evidence? They posted nothing.And yes, inflation shows ticket sales, not ticket prices.
Well then I guess a reputable critic/review site like Rotten Tomatoes made up all of the data to come up with the figures they presented...
When people make movies they don't care about ticket sales, they care about how much money they make. All Star Wars films made a lot of money except for ESB. (sort of kidding)
Uh, money is calculated by tickets sales, genius. And I, nor anyone else, can help that when the OT came out, tickets were about $5 less then they were when the PT came out.
So when comparing the 2 trilogies as to how they did in the box office, you have to go with inflation adjusted totals. That's all there is to it. Plus, add in the fact that the OT was showing in significantly less theaters and they were smaller, i.e. no stadium seating and such.
Face it. The PT loses that battle. Its not up for interpretation, opinion or preference. The OT sold more tickets than the PT. Deal with it.
Besides that, I don't know who many times I have to say that I'm done with this argument. Neither of us will say the other trilogy is better, so why not drop it?
He's right, Sweersa. When adjusted for inflation, the original Star Wars made the most money out of the entire saga.
Not that moneymaking really matters, because if that was the case, Titanic would be the best movie ever made...
... and is so f*cking isn't.
Moving on, I just posted that article for reference purposes. If we could by that logic, the Prequels will be better respected in the next 20 or so years (and I believe that they will be).
Originally posted by Master Crimzon
He's right, Sweersa. When adjusted for inflation, the original Star Wars made the most money out of the entire saga.Not that moneymaking really matters, because if that was the case, Titanic would be the best movie ever made...
... and is so f*cking isn't.
Moving on, I just posted that article for reference purposes. If we could by that logic, the Prequels will be better respected in the next 20 or so years (and I believe that they will be).
I also believe the Prequels will age better. If inflation is so important, than they is is usually ignored when box office figures of past and present movies are states and compared?
What triggered the Clone Wars EU and multimedia project, and a humongous portion of the Star Wars Expanded Universe? The OT had such an effect because it was new, not necessarily better than the Prequels. The Prequels aren't revolving around a new concept; they therefore will logically have less impact than something fresh and new.
It has very little to do with the actual quality of them compared to the OT.
Originally posted by queeq
THe prequels will not age better. Most people have already forgotten about them, they made no impact on popular culture. THe OT did... very much so. If nothing surfaces from the PT in popular culture now, it never will.
Well, time will for sure tell.
I mean this Prequel section of the forum seems a lot more active than the OT...
And just look at the post above mine, he has some great points.
Jar Jar Binks also enspired other filmmakers to use CGI characters, Lucas pioneers.
A lot of people have so many Prequel sigs, avatars, it spawned a whole new universe and made Star Wars into something new again.
Well the thing is, each generation reacts to stuff differently. Star Wars back in the 70's and 80's made a larger impact than it did with 90's and 2000's. I don't think that makes the PT suck balls. I'm 20, and I think those films are fine the way they are. But there are different cultural movements with each generation. If you walked into a house today and it was filled with lava lamps, you'd probably think it's the strangest thing you'd ever seen. If you did so back in the 70's, you'd have thought it was cool.
The fact is, when GL decided to bring Star Wars back to the big screen, really think and ask yourself, which age group was SW popular with in the 90's? It was the kids. The kids were the new generation of Star Wars. They were the ones watching the tapes left behind for them by there parents. They were the ones begging for Santa to bring them toy lightsabers. Lucas tried to make a Star Wars movie that appealed to both kids and adults, and it wasn't accepted by the adults. Oh well.
What is most interesting about Star Wars is that we love it and hate it for all the wrong reasons. You know for a fact that when you were a kid, A New Hope bored you, you didn't understand the mature and complex storyline of Empire Strikes Back, and you thought Return of the Jedi was the greatest Star Wars movie because Luke Skywalker had a green lightsaber. As a you grow up, all those things change. A New Hope suddenly becomes fascinating, Empire is dark and haunting, and Return of the Jedi has Ewoks. What the hell? But it don't matter when you're a kid. And now that everyone grew up, they hate the newer ones because it had too much CGI or blah blah blah. 300 and Sin City were practically 100% CGI and people didn't have a problem with that because they had nothing to compare it to. The fact that people hate the PT is because they are comparing it to the OT, which is all for the wrong reason and not fair.
People don't hate Star Wars as much as they say they do. The fact that they are on these forums day after day posting in the Prequel section is proof of that. I for one wouldn't be wasting my time on a site or with a franchise that I didn't some what like deep down inside, no matter how much I said it sucked. I would have gotten over it and moved on with my life.
Originally posted by Sith Master X
Well the thing is, each generation reacts to stuff differently. Star Wars back in the 70's and 80's made a larger impact than it did with 90's and 2000's. I don't think that makes the PT suck balls. I'm 20, and I think those films are fine the way they are. But there are different cultural movements with each generation. If you walked into a house today and it was filled with lava lamps, you'd probably think it's the strangest thing you'd ever seen. If you did so back in the 70's, you'd have thought it was cool.The fact is, when GL decided to bring Star Wars back to the big screen, really think and ask yourself, which age group was SW popular with in the 90's? It was the kids. The kids were the new generation of Star Wars. They were the ones watching the tapes left behind for them by there parents. They were the ones begging for Santa to bring them toy lightsabers. Lucas tried to make a Star Wars movie that appealed to both kids and adults, and it wasn't accepted by the adults. Oh well.
What is most interesting about Star Wars is that we love it and hate it for all the wrong reasons. You know for a fact that when you were a kid, A New Hope bored you, you didn't understand the mature and complex storyline of Empire Strikes Back, and you thought Return of the Jedi was the greatest Star Wars movie because Luke Skywalker had a green lightsaber. As a you grow up, all those things change. A New Hope suddenly becomes fascinating, Empire is dark and haunting, and Return of the Jedi has Ewoks. What the hell? But it don't matter when you're a kid. And now that everyone grew up, they hate the newer ones because it had too much CGI or blah blah blah. 300 and Sin City were practically 100% CGI and people didn't have a problem with that because they had nothing to compare it to. The fact that people hate the PT is because they are comparing it to the OT, which is all for the wrong reason and not fair.
People don't hate Star Wars as much as they say they do. The fact that they are on these forums day after day posting in the Prequel section is proof of that. I for one wouldn't be wasting my time on a site or with a franchise that I didn't some what like deep down inside, no matter how much I said it sucked.
QFT. I couldn't have put it better myself.
Originally posted by Sith Master X
Well the thing is, each generation reacts to stuff differently. Star Wars back in the 70's and 80's made a larger impact than it did with 90's and 2000's. I don't think that makes the PT suck balls. I'm 20, and I think those films are fine the way they are. But there are different cultural movements with each generation. If you walked into a house today and it was filled with lava lamps, you'd probably think it's the strangest thing you'd ever seen. If you did so back in the 70's, you'd have thought it was cool.The fact is, when GL decided to bring Star Wars back to the big screen, really think and ask yourself, which age group was SW popular with in the 90's? It was the kids. The kids were the new generation of Star Wars. They were the ones watching the tapes left behind for them by there parents. They were the ones begging for Santa to bring them toy lightsabers. Lucas tried to make a Star Wars movie that appealed to both kids and adults, and it wasn't accepted by the adults. Oh well.
What is most interesting about Star Wars is that we love it and hate it for all the wrong reasons. You know for a fact that when you were a kid, A New Hope bored you, you didn't understand the mature and complex storyline of Empire Strikes Back, and you thought Return of the Jedi was the greatest Star Wars movie because Luke Skywalker had a green lightsaber. As a you grow up, all those things change. A New Hope suddenly becomes fascinating, Empire is dark and haunting, and Return of the Jedi has Ewoks. What the hell? But it don't matter when you're a kid. And now that everyone grew up, they hate the newer ones because it had too much CGI or blah blah blah. 300 and Sin City were practically 100% CGI and people didn't have a problem with that because they had nothing to compare it to. The fact that people hate the PT is because they are comparing it to the OT, which is all for the wrong reason and not fair.
People don't hate Star Wars as much as they say they do. The fact that they are on these forums day after day posting in the Prequel section is proof of that. I for one wouldn't be wasting my time on a site or with a franchise that I didn't some what like deep down inside, no matter how much I said it sucked. I would have gotten over it and moved on with my life.
^ Great post.
Originally posted by Sith Master XHAHA, damn you nailed this part! I was actually grinning the entire time I was reading that. That's why I miss you around here so much.
What is most interesting about Star Wars is that we love it and hate it for all the wrong reasons. You know for a fact that when you were a kid, A New Hope bored you, you didn't understand the mature and complex storyline of Empire Strikes Back, and you thought Return of the Jedi was the greatest Star Wars movie because Luke Skywalker had a green lightsaber. As a you grow up, all those things change. A New Hope suddenly becomes fascinating, Empire is dark and haunting, and Return of the Jedi has Ewoks. What the hell? But it don't matter when you're a kid. And now that everyone grew up, they hate the newer ones because it had too much CGI or blah blah blah. 300 and Sin City were practically 100% CGI and people didn't have a problem with that because they had nothing to compare it to. The fact that people hate the PT is because they are comparing it to the OT, which is all for the wrong reason and not fair.
One thing i want to clear up though, is about 300 and Sin City. Neither of them were geared towards kids when their predecessors were not, or at least no where near as much. 300 was based on a true battle and was rather captivating, despite all the blood flying around with no one getting bloody and all the over exaggerated stature of the god king and the elephants, a la LoTR.
Sin City on the other hand, had Jessica Alba in skimpy clothes dancing sexy. That's it. 😐
Oh and my top 3:
Empire
A New Hope
Sith
Originally posted by sweersaWhat the fvck are you talking about? Do you even know? I like SMX more than 99% of the people on here, and I really was laughing about his explanation of how most people viewed the OT. Not that I have to explain myself to anyone, least of all you.
Lighten up. You don't have to be angry or a smart !@# becuase of the fact that some people like the PT.
So if you don't know what you're talking about, keep your mouth shut.
And I was AGREEING with Sith Master X. I like him. We used to agree and get along alot back in the day.
Originally posted by Ahsoka Tano
I'm sorry but I didn't read Darth Subjekt's post as an attack, sweersa.I thought he made very good points.
Thank you. At least someone around here has common sense. 🙂