Beast vs. Thing

Originally posted by Metalmanx
(Talking about mid 90s Beast here)

Actually, stamina is debatable, since Beast also has superhuman stamina/endurance.

And with Beast's agility, Thing would be lucky to even graze him. That, and Beast also has been fighting nearly as long as Ben has. I know you meant no harm by what you said, but I just hate seeing Beast being so underrated on this forum. He's quite the accomplished fighter, and has trained probably even more than Thing has since becomming an X-man in his early teens. Comic-time-wise, he's been in the game a lot longer than Ben has.

I tend to agree with most things that you say, and in this case I do except for the part where Beast has more experience than Thing. Its generally expected in the MU that the FF were the first guys on the block (exception to Cap and the Invaders). And since Marvel uses a sliding timeline starting with the FF's accident it puts them ahead of the X-men in terms of who came first. ie. Ben was the Thing before Hank was the Beast. And then lets not forget the time it took before Hank mutated again into the ape, Ben was still heroing. So comic-time-wise I'd still say Ben has more experience than Hank.

I agree that Beast is way to underrated though

umm...I hope you are insinuating that FF was the first creation of marvel...cuz it's not

Originally posted by Whittdawg92
umm...I hope you are insinuating that FF was the first creation of marvel...cuz it's not

😖igh: No. Namor and other were before the FF. I know, but according to MU time the FF getting their powers pretty much precedes all other examples of superheroics including those of Spider-Man and the X-Men. Sure there were a few other before them but generally the Fantastic Four are seen to as the first heroes in the MU. Practically everything else that followed in the MU falls chronologically after the Fantastic Four getting their powers

spiderman and x-men are baby stuff compared to superman and DC. Marvel's a baby compared to DC actually, but that doesn't mean that DC doesn't suck.

America and canada are babies compared to... france.. britain...china (if you exclude all the hostile takeovers) russia,

and yet.. currently wouldn't you say we are all about the same level...

just cause ben started earlier... doesn't mean he didn't plateau skill wise... allowing beast to catch up to his full potential.

I wasn't using age to say that older things suck or vice versa. I was only using it to refute a claim that the Thing has more experience than Beast cause he's been aroung longer. That was my intent

this has been done, i made it a while ago.

Ben was in a gang for his childhood, then he played football in college, then he went into the armed services 😐

Beast is a scientist who has been an x-man since he was what 17 😕

Yeah Ben trumps Beast in skills and experience ✅

Originally posted by rotiart
America and canada are babies compared to... france.. britain...china (if you exclude all the hostile takeovers) russia,

Europe sucks 😐

Asia (except for Japan) sucks 😄

euh beast was also a football player in college.

And Europe is much better than US. 😛 😛 😛

Originally posted by Grimm22
Europe sucks 😐

Asia (except for Japan) sucks 😄

Originally posted by Brutacus
euh beast was also a football player in college.

And Europe is much better than US. 😛 😛 😛

Oh its on now 😠

pft, Thing pwns Beast at football 😎

Originally posted by bigbran
why are you japanese?

No, but we wouldnt have....pants?!?! Without Japan

Originally posted by bigbran
why are you japanese?

Originally posted by Brutacus
euh beast was also a football player in college.

And Europe is much better than US. 😛 😛 😛

I think beast would win iff they played football he can dodge thing very easy.
Ok iff they meet head on than beast would be a big blue spot on the floor.

Originally posted by Grimm22
Ben was in a gang for his childhood, then he played football in college, then he went into the armed services 😐

Beast is a scientist who has been an x-man since he was what 17 😕

Yeah Ben trumps Beast in skills and experience ✅

Wrong-o.

Hank was an all-star athelete WHILE being a scientist. Hank was even more athletic (yes, he was) than Ben was. He was gonan go pro until the whole X-Men thing occurred. It's kinda what he does.

And Beast has trained SO much more than Ben has. Yea, comic-chronologically, Ben has been around longer. But Beast has so much more training experience under his belt than Ben does. Beast is the better fighter of the two, able to efficiently use all of his skills better than Ben can.

HOWEVER, don't confuse this rant with me saying Beast wins. I'm just trying to defend him here, he doesn't get enough credit and is severely underrated.

Thing does win this fight (especially against current Beast).

Originally posted by Grimm22
No, but we wouldnt have....pants?!?! Without Japan

Originally posted by Metalmanx
(Talking about mid 90s Beast here)

Actually, stamina is debatable, since Beast also has superhuman stamina/endurance.

And with Beast's agility, Thing would be lucky to even graze him. That, and Beast also has been fighting nearly as long as Ben has. I know you meant no harm by what you said, but I just hate seeing Beast being so underrated on this forum. He's quite the accomplished fighter, and has trained probably even more than Thing has since becomming an X-man in his early teens. Comic-time-wise, he's been in the game a lot longer than Ben has.

By no means am I underestimating Beast. I know he is a great fighter, and is extremely expierenced, and i love his character, but it is a fact that many times while the X-Men are out fighting some villian Beast is in the lab figuring out a way to stop him. Ben on the other hand is always in the middle of the fray throwing down with the best. As for stamina, i do not think it is debatable. Beast cannot go as long as Thing with out fatigue poisons bulding in his blood. Thing on the other hand can survive in many diffrerent types of atmospheres without a suit i.e the negative zone where all the other FF needed a suit. Plus Thing can keep fighting in extreme tempatures, and Beast cannot.

Originally posted by nimbus006
By no means am I underestimating Beast. I know he is a great fighter, and is extremely expierenced, and i love his character, but it is a fact that many times while the X-Men are out fighting some villian Beast is in the lab figuring out a way to stop him. Ben on the other hand is always in the middle of the fray throwing down with the best. As for stamina, i do not think it is debatable. Beast cannot go as long as Thing with out fatigue poisons bulding in his blood. Thing on the other hand can survive in many diffrerent types of atmospheres without a suit i.e the negative zone where all the other FF needed a suit. Plus Thing can keep fighting in extreme tempatures, and Beast cannot.

Ben still needs to breathe, so I don't really understand why you brought that up.

Besides, how do different environments pertain to this fight? Are they going to be fighting in a volcano? Or in Antarctica? Actually, Beast would probably be alright there though, what with the fur and all.

I still think the stamina thing is debatable. I've seen Thing fatigued before, and I've seen Beast fatigued less times than that. And yes, I know they don't face the same threats, but using comparatic logic is makes sense.

And yea, Beast is a lot of timse trying to figure out some way to defeat and enemy cuz he's the only one who can! If he was out in the field, the X-Men would be SOL and lose their fights if not for Beast's day-saving inventions.

You think being in the field and fighting baddies created the cure to the Legacy virus?

When Beast isn't in the lab, he's also in the fray. Or the Danger Room, basically everyday, in fact, training hard.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Wrong-o.

Hank was an all-star athelete WHILE being a scientist. Hank was even more athletic (yes, he was) than Ben was. He was gonan go pro until the whole X-Men thing occurred. It's kinda what he does.

And Beast has trained SO much more than Ben has. Yea, comic-chronologically, Ben has been around longer. But Beast has so much more training experience under his belt than Ben does. Beast is the better fighter of the two, able to efficiently use all of his skills better than Ben can.

HOWEVER, don't confuse this rant with me saying Beast wins. I'm just trying to defend him here, he doesn't get enough credit and is severely underrated.

Thing does win this fight (especially against current Beast).

Your write... but Ben was an athelete, and in the services as a human, Hank was born a mutant with powers so you cant compare that, but yea your facts are correct. I agree with you that Beast is a better fighter in the sense of technique and skill, but Thing is tougher IMO which makes him a better scrapper. And yes Beast might have trained more than Thing, but Thing has had WAAAAY more battles with top noch opponents than Beast, and that is what counts. You can practice all you want, but until you do the real thing you ain't nothing.