Incridible Hulk VS Classic Savage Hulk

Originally posted by rotiart
Actually based off those posts you gave, i'd say so too. I mean mindless hulk didn't even flinch when thor hit him...
my new thingamig

mindless>bannerless>full power savage>maestro>base savage>professor>fixit.

Would you say thats about what you would say? mind that bannerless is what i'm using to refer to onslaught version now.

war>mindless>bannerless>enraged savage>maestro>base savage>professor>gravage>fixit

I belive that Savage/Current (I think teh Current is Savage, not Gravage) Hulk has unimited anger and strength, though it's not automatic, and I had to add 2 versions you had left out. War Hulk is teh strongest IMO because he was boosted by Celestial tech and was capable of stopping Juggernaut. Gravage was the earliest form of Green Hulk that was Savagish, but spoke for the most part in the 1st person and changed back to banner when the stress became to great similar to the Professor.

Coincidentally the only direct Wins Namor has against the Hulk are against the Gravage Version.

Gravage? Can you explain this more please. I remember Grey hulk, green hulk... a greyish green hulk? and as for war hulk... why so high? I'd put him above enraged savage but below mindless myself.

Originally posted by Dalak
war>mindless>bannerless>enraged savage>maestro>base savage>professor>gravage>fixit

I belive that Savage/Current (I think teh Current is Savage, not Gravage) Hulk has unimited anger and strength, though it's not automatic, and I had to add 2 versions you had left out. War Hulk is teh strongest IMO because he was boosted by Celestial tech and was capable of stopping Juggernaut. Gravage was the earliest form of Green Hulk that was Savagish, but spoke for the most part in the 1st person and changed back to banner when the stress became to great similar to the Professor.

Coincidentally the only direct Wins Namor has against the Hulk are against the Gravage Version.

The people's elbow beats them all...

actually i loved the shawnmichaels razor ramone days.. with bret hart.. sigh.. i don't watch wrestling anymore.

Originally posted by rotiart
The people's elbow beats them all...

actually i loved the shawnmichaels razor ramone days.. with bret hart.. sigh.. i don't watch wrestling anymore.

Originally posted by bigbran
me neither, but sometimes ill catch a glimsp, and see how fake it is, like ubeilvably fake.

thats why i like ufc

Originally posted by Sea King
thats why i like ufc

Originally posted by rotiart
Gravage? Can you explain this more please. I remember Grey hulk, green hulk... a greyish green hulk? and as for war hulk... why so high? I'd put him above enraged savage but below mindless myself.

Bruce had been using a Gamma Radiation beam to try and stop his transformations, and it led to the original Night and Day Grey Hulk to turn green and get stronger and more Savage. Sometimes it would talk in the 3rd and others in the 1st person. Later it solidified into the "Hulk Smash!" that is so synonimous with the Hulk now and became Savage.

War Hulk has the same capabiltes as teh basic Hulk's but he has that ability to almost instantly raise his strength to what is required. At least that is how it seemed to me. That or it gave him the leverage to use his massive power easily, I dunno.

I jsut think that Celestial Amped Hulk > Mindless. Just like An enraged Savage that's seen a loved one die can get stronger than the rest.

Originally posted by Dalak
No one is going to accept that Hulk is invincible and completely immortal, because he isn't. I am one of Hulk's biggest supporters on these boards and I know he isn't. He can be knocked out if it's done quick enough, he can be mindfragged by a strong enough mind, and he can he transported/teleported away. He can also be outspeeded if you are fast enough.

His strength isn't infinite but it is Unlimited, and yes the difference has been gone into here before. Given time he can overpower anyone and anything, but he isn't always given that time. From Writer to Writer the speed that his strength goes up changes, but it has been shown on many occasions to double and tripple in just a few seconds. Also Given time and radiation he WILL come back from Death, but that doesn't mean he can't die.

Alright the hulk is a tough badass, is that hurting the hulk, oh wait all I said was that the hulk can beat thor, yeah thats really hurting the hulk.

Originally posted by Dalak
Bruce had been using a Gamma Radiation beam to try and stop his transformations, and it led to the original Night and Day Grey Hulk to turn green and get stronger and more Savage. Sometimes it would talk in the 3rd and others in the 1st person. Later it solidified into the "Hulk Smash!" that is so synonimous with the Hulk now and became Savage.

War Hulk has the same capabiltes as teh basic Hulk's but he has that ability to almost instantly raise his strength to what is required. At least that is how it seemed to me. That or it gave him the leverage to use his massive power easily, I dunno.

I jsut think that Celestial Amped Hulk > Mindless. Just like An enraged Savage that's seen a loved one die can get stronger than the rest.

War Hulk had class 300 strength

Originally posted by SuperChangeling
War Hulk had class 300 strength

War's strength level was never officially stated.

Originally posted by Tron
War's strength level was never officially stated.

Agreed, but since one piece of the equipment that was amping him blew up Creel when he tried to absorb it (A feat almsot unmatched unless youa re a Planet) I'd have to say he's the strongest incarnation. Plus with no magic at all he stopped the Juggernaut, and that was pure strength (Albeit amped by Tech).

What's the story on the tech anyway? Did it amp the Hulk or did it tap into Hulk's own potential without him having to anger himself to get to that level?

Originally posted by Dinalfos
What's the story on the tech anyway? Did it amp the Hulk or did it tap into Hulk's own potential without him having to anger himself to get to that level?

It's not explained. Green Field happens -> Juggs is stopped

Green Field happens -> Juggs' helmet is gone

There's only 2 things that infers to me: Leverage, or Nearly-Instant Strength Boosting. They are theories, but we don't have much better.

What about prior issues? Does it say anything at all?

Originally posted by Dinalfos
What about prior issues? Does it say anything at all?

1 issue he's getting the stuff put on, and at the end he's War, at teh end of teh second, he's tearing off everything cause he hurt Rick.

He wasn't around long enough to get much info from.

Originally posted by Dinalfos
What's the story on the tech anyway? Did it amp the Hulk or did it tap into Hulk's own potential without him having to anger himself to get to that level?

At the time, Hulk was the focal point for energy between his universe and the Heroes Reborn universe, and Apocalypes used the armor to tap into that.

you know what the funny thing is SuperChangeling
has been trolling to get the hulk a win so he makes this tread and yet hulk still lose'es. 😄

Originally posted by Tron
At the time, Hulk was the focal point for energy between his universe and the Heroes Reborn universe, and Apocalypes used the armor to tap into that.

I've seen that theory before, but never anything to back it up in the comics.

Of course there's nothing to directly back up any of mine 😄

Hulk wins. 😖hifty: