Originally posted by CaptainStoic
Guy you and I both know the truth. Gecko you jest. Hulk has won more than Thor. thor could not take on the hulk and the Avengers east and west at the same time. Hulk however took on Thor and both teams though. Big diff.
Check thor's respect thread
I think his record against the hulk is something like 7 - 3
Originally posted by CaptainStoic
Guy you and I both know the truth. Gecko you jest. Hulk has won more than Thor. thor could not take on the hulk and the Avengers east and west at the same time. Hulk however took on Thor and both teams though. Big diff.
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Originally posted by Gecko4lif
WrongCheck thor's respect thread
I think his record against the hulk is something like 7 - 3
Ok, I checked the Respect Thor section and what I saw was Journey into Mystery when Thor fought an adolescent Hulk, a very weak version. I also saw Thor beating up on Professor Hulk because The Hulks powers were unstable Wonder Man gave Professor Hulk a tough time... all the same Thor still did not win that fight, although he would have if it continued. I saw a non cannonized battle in a What If comic where he breaks The Hulks neck. I never saw the 7 wins in Thors favor that you are speaking of. Could it be that you have it backwards Gecko? I've been reading comics for quite a while and the fights that you mention are non existant. Can you show me links of these said victories in Thors favor?
Also this is War that is in question, if I am correct. War Hulks strength is nothing that a regular Hulk can not overcome, as he is seen in a recent X-Men comic not being moved by Juggernaut. Hulk can become far stronger than that, he is seen overcomming this strength class in WWHulk 5. he only other time that I saw Hulk lose to Thor without contest is when Thor had the Odin power, but this is not Thors power alone. Odin would destroy the Hulk, and thor with that power would as well.
Originally posted by CaptainStoic
The Hulk looked as if he was showing Thor Mercy, the nuke would have killed Thor but Hulk would have gotten stronger, as he did in later comics due to radiation exposure. It was the Hulk that was seen throwing Thor around not the other way around. If it was Thor throwing the Hulk around everyone inclunding myself would agree that the strength advantage belonged to the Odinson, but that is not the case here is it?
Also, the truth is that Hulk did not BFR Thor.
If you call what happened a "BFR", you are going to have to use that criteria in about 500 other battles where an enemy gets knocked away during the battle, and is fully able to, and is on his way back to keep the fight going.
In other words, BFR is when the opponent is dispatched completely and permanently from the fight and the fight area.
Not when he is just knocked away and able to come right back.
Also, if you look at this battle, you will see that Thor's attacks were taking more of a toll on Hulk than Hulk's strikes on Thor.
Thor's lightning did much more than just stun Hulk.
And, somewhere in these forums somebody did a thread on the tally of Hulk and Thor wins against each other. And, Thor has more.
If you do a search, you can find it.
Originally posted by Horrificus
Thor has been shown to be able to survive nukes. The Hulk is the one that has been reduced to nothing in the past.Also, the truth is that Hulk did not BFR Thor.
If you call what happened a "BFR", you are going to have to use that criteria in about 500 other battles where an enemy gets knocked away during the battle, and is fully able to, and is on his way back to keep the fight going.
In other words, BFR is when the opponent is dispatched completely and permanently from the fight and the fight area.
Not when he is just knocked away and able to come right back.
Also, if you look at this battle, you will see that Thor's attacks were taking more of a toll on Hulk than Hulk's strikes on Thor.
Thor's lightning did much more than just stun Hulk.
And, somewhere in these forums somebody did a thread on the tally of Hulk and Thor wins against each other. And, Thor has more.
If you do a search, you can find it.
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rubbish. come on kids, it's only comics, don't get so delusional ❌.
Hulk > Thor, in strength, durability, healing, stamina and overall access to power (infinite vs limited).
Thor > Hulk in terms of dynamism and non-physical options.
Thor would have lost in Warrior Madness mode (which he WAS in - Larceny's denials notwithstanding) as Hulk was just bfring him for his own good.
it's posters like you guys, with an irrational dislike for a fictional character, that make absurd and hideously contorted logic in order to deny the obvious reading of the facts.
Hulk was taking everything "Warrior Madness Thor" could think of throwing at him and it was blatantly failing to even hurt The Hulk. whereas Hulk was only growing stronger, and growing into the fight... and he stopped it because of his concern for Thor's safety.
And is this even a valid battle for measure Classic Thor vs a Maestro, much less War?
According to the dialog he starts off virtually powerless. Receives some of his strength back (in his 'miracle'😉, and is then directly compared to an average Asgardian, and in context unfavorably at that.
The stinging cold and the powerful blow? Either one not unfamiliar to the average Asgardian but the prince of the realm is shaken when exposed to both. Considering he's their premiere warrior and they fight frost giants I should say Thor should be quite able to take both.
Then there's Thor remarking how much his hammer stings its hand upon its return.
I'd call this a dubious fight at best for repping Hulk. It does look much better for Thor however.
And if he wasn't at full strength then its understandable that he'd have to go to Warrior Madness just to equal/surpass his normal strength levels.
Originally posted by janus77
rubbish. come on kids, it's only comics, don't get so delusional ❌.Hulk > Thor, in strength, durability, healing, stamina and overall access to power (infinite vs limited).
Thor > Hulk in terms of dynamism and non-physical options.
Thor would have lost in Warrior Madness mode (which he WAS in - Larceny's denials notwithstanding) as Hulk was just bfring him for his own good.
it's posters like you guys, with an irrational dislike for a fictional character, that make absurd and hideously contorted logic in order to deny the obvious reading of the facts.
Hulk was taking everything "Warrior Madness Thor" could think of throwing at him and it was blatantly failing to even hurt The Hulk. whereas Hulk was only growing stronger, and growing into the fight... and he stopped it because of his concern for Thor's safety.
Second, When Thor and Hulk locked hands, and as they went through the ice, they were evenly matched.
Next, who says Thor has a limit on his strength? Thus far, it has NEVER been shown, and he has been shown to be able to get stronger under certain conditions. Obviously.
You are right about one thing. Thor has not been shown to have a healing factor equal to Hulk, because he doesn't get cut to ribbons, holes blown through him, etc, as consistently as Hulk as.
Originally posted by lft4dedWow!
And is this even a valid battle for measure Classic Thor vs a Maestro, much less War?According to the dialog he starts off virtually powerless. Receives some of his strength back (in his 'miracle'😉, and is then directly compared to an average Asgardian, and in context unfavorably at that.
The stinging cold and the powerful blow? Either one not unfamiliar to the average Asgardian but the prince of the realm is shaken when exposed to both. Considering he's their premiere warrior and they fight frost giants I should say Thor should be quite able to take both.
Then there's Thor remarking how much his hammer stings its hand upon its return.
I'd call this a dubious fight at best for repping Hulk. It does look much better for Thor however.
And if he wasn't at full strength then its understandable that he'd have to go to Warrior Madness just to equal/surpass his normal strength levels.
Originally posted by janus77
rubbish. come on kids, it's only comics, don't get so delusional ❌.Hulk > Thor, in strength, durability, healing, stamina and overall access to power (infinite vs limited).
Thor > Hulk in terms of dynamism and non-physical options.
Thor would have lost in Warrior Madness mode (which he WAS in - Larceny's denials notwithstanding) as Hulk was just bfring him for his own good.
it's posters like you guys, with an irrational dislike for a fictional character, that make absurd and hideously contorted logic in order to deny the obvious reading of the facts.
Hulk was taking everything "Warrior Madness Thor" could think of throwing at him and it was blatantly failing to even hurt The Hulk. whereas Hulk was only growing stronger, and growing into the fight... and he stopped it because of his concern for Thor's safety.
While he does posses unlimited strength, he has ever proven to be leaps and bounds above Thor strength wise? No. In fact Thor's stalemated Savage Hulk in strength for an hour.
Hulk > Thor in durability? Don't make me laugh. If it weren't for his healing factor Hulk would have been killed many times over. He's also been ko'd more often than Thor.
Stamina? So Thor fighting for months at a time is what?
This is all based on speculation as up until that point the battle was a stalemate and both were capable of continuing the fight.
I've already stated he was transitioning into warrior madness, but it was only noted on the last page. I only stated he wasn't in warrior madness through the entirety of the fight.
Shuddup.
Originally posted by Horrificus
no
Hulk has been shown to be FAR more susceptible to damage than Thor. If you can't admit that, first of all, you are the one that is delusional, and not worth debating with, because THAT is common knowledge.Second, When Thor and Hulk locked hands, and as they went through the ice, they were evenly matched.
Next, who says Thor has a limit on his strength? Thus far, it has NEVER been shown, and he has been shown to be able to get stronger under certain conditions. Obviously.
You are right about one thing. Thor has not been shown to have a healing factor equal to Hulk, because he doesn't get cut to ribbons, holes blown through him, etc, as consistently as Hulk as.
and if you need proof that Thor has a definite limit to what he can do, powerwise, think of the Thor - Juggernaut fight. Thor resorted to GodBlast, made the big speech and everything and it did less than War Hulk did to juggernaut.
also, it's in the nature of The Hulk's powers that he drags out fights, that he has to get angrier/frustrated before he really begins to crank up the power. it's not as if he just starts off at Thor-levels, though it does instantly reach and eclipse Thor-levels.
it is just an absolute fact that there is no "tiring" of The Hulk, he cannot be sapped of power, if he is in a fight, but he can have it siphoned whilst being calmed down by reasoning/standing off ala Surfer. this compares favourably to the likes of Thor who have great stamina, but cannot carry on indefinitely, hence my saying Hulk has the greater stamina.
the healing is necessary for Thor as well, btw. there's an instance where Surfer had to heal Thor, after a battle. there are occasions where Thor has been manhandled and left to lick his wounds, out of the battle and useless.