Originally posted by don't shiv
when it comes to cap the flag stars and strpes costume is more effective than SSS.SHIVA CASS BATS Mr TERRIFFIC are OLYMPIC level athletes Plus. to this posse SSS is as effective as black coffee.
[Shiva would snuff Cap like a Candle, and enjoy it.]
Wow, you are either entirely ignorant of the Character you are arguing against, or incredibly biased towards the one you are arguing for.
yes, though the serum acts differently for every host batman could beat cap because he has a better base to start with, remember before the serum cap was a scrawny guy with no fighting experience, bats is already at near peak human fitness, and he has mastered several forms of fighting......as much as i hate saying it batman would win this
Originally posted by galan7777777
yes, though the serum acts differently for every host batman could beat cap because he has a better base to start with, remember before the serum cap was a scrawny guy with no fighting experience, bats is already at near peak human fitness, and he has mastered several forms of fighting......as much as i hate saying it batman would win this
As has been explained time and time again, the serum takes you to a pre-set level. It doesn't enhance or multiply the base abilities. All this would do is close the physical gap between the two combatants. And considering they are about equal in skill...
Originally posted by Soljerbut its also been said it acts different with every host
As has been explained time and time again, the serum takes you to a pre-set level. It doesn't enhance or multiply the base abilities. All this would do is close the physical gap between the two combatants. And considering they are about equal in skill...
Originally posted by galan7777777
but its also been said it acts different with every host
However, we can not be sure EXACTLY how it will act in Bruce as a host. The spirit of the thread was "If Batman had Steve's physique, could he THEN beat him?"
So, go with the spirit of the thread. Who knows, maybe Batman gets lucky, and gets the concentrated version of the Super Soldier Serum that sentry shot up, 😖hifty: .
seriously Cass, Lady Shiva, and Richard Dragon are above Bats in fighting cause its basically their lives. they all show consistent superiority to Bats especially Cass in her solo Batgirl series. Not that Dragon isn't just as good but he doesn't have more showings. but he has shown to be better than Shiva. so it would be like this in Current DC Earth (meaning the 21st century)
1. Richard Dragon/ Cassandra Cain
2. Lady Shiva/David Cain
3. Connor Hawke
4. Batman
Originally posted by Metalmanx
When did Batman beat Cap? I hope you're not referring to the Marvel vs. DC cross-over from back in the day.
bats is one of the veary best h2h fighters their is now you give him sss (also note he said if batman got the sss, bruce did not become batman untill he had most to all of his training. so your giveing an already highly trained fighter the sss and something to throw & a sword.)
so look at it this way take away their training and just give them the sss their equals. then train them in their spefic weapon set, that also makes them equals. now give them their fighting training and batman has the clear edge.
Originally posted by Soljer
As has been explained time and time again, the serum takes you to a pre-set level. It doesn't enhance or multiply the base abilities. All this would do is close the physical gap between the two combatants. And considering they are about equal in skill...
"equal in skill"
B' is as far beyond Cap in skill, as Cap is beyond Jonah Jameson and Aunt May.
Lately however B' s been Off his game.
Hush, War Games and War Crimes fallout did a real number on the Vigilante.
Guy should eat once in a while. And sleep. Properly
guess he's mourning Robin 3's violent death .
Originally posted by Soljer
😆But only the biggest of the Fanboys of each Bruce and Steve argue that Wolverine wouldn't be able to take a majority from them.
Yes.
Logans fighting experince is measured in Centuries.
at one point in his life, to make him the perfect fighting machine
his mind was Erased, and scientifically rewritten with fighting technique.
Originally posted by don't shivTim Drake is dead? Anyway, I think this ends in a stalemate
"equal in skill"B' is as far beyond Cap in skill, as Cap is beyond Jonah Jameson and Aunt May.
Lately however B' s been Off his game.
Hush, War Games and War Crimes fallout did a real number on the Vigilante.Guy should eat once in a while. And sleep. Properly
guess he's mourning Robin 3's violent death .