you are sorta right -- but you're forgetting: there never used to be this illusionary notion that a 'full powered galactus' existed, or was anything really special. he was never linked to eternity or death, so yes, odin WAS considered in galactus's neighbourhood power-wise.
then galactus became associated with eternity and death (but still jobs to EVERYONE) and the skyfathers fell from grace a little and so a gap was opened between their perceived power levels.
From what I've read, the Odinforce is on par with Galactus' Power Cosmic. For whatever reason, Odin never really used it. It was seen in 'Ragnarok,' that Odin's true purpose was to imbue Thor with mortal men's experience to stop the 'Ones Who Sit Above' and the cycle of Asgard. He was never there to spank people or compete in strongman competitions.
I'm pretty sure that all his fights had to do with beings who threatened Asgard or Thor in some way. He created the Destroyer in case the Celestials came a knocking, he was about to face IC powered Thanos, he defended his realm against Surtur a whole bunch of times. But he always kept the Odinforce at bay, I guess he always wanted to preserve it for Thor.
The power level scheme is all skewed in Marvel. FP Galactus is on Eternity's level. We've seen Eternity get owned by IG Thanos and Genis-Vell though. Celestials' power levels have never been adequately defined. Odinforce hasn't been well defined either. But I don't think Tyrant could outdo any of them. Some scans of Tyrant's showings against Galactus and his heralds might change my tune though.
I like that it's being mentioned that the gap between Skyfather and Big G isn't as big as a lot of people think.
So back to the fight. Original Tyrant was Big G's equal. After his downgrade, he's still pretty uber, and right around Skyfather by most counts.
Popular assessment seems to be Odin ftw...I can't find reason to argue.
Yes, there is a big difference between "Skyfather" and Galactus.
As I have said before, the term "Skyfather" should not be thrown around the way it is in here. There are a lot of weak Skyfathers.
Odin, Crom and Zeus just happen to be a few of the stronger ones.
Skyfather is more of a title, than it is a power-level indicator.
And, as far as the battles go, and his use of the Odinforce, he shows what he needs to show.
If it is a physical battle, he tends to show an increase in physical power. When he needs a more energy-based armament, he seems to gain that.
I think Odin could take the recent version of Tyrant.
Originally posted by DigiMark007
I like that it's being mentioned that the gap between Skyfather and Big G isn't as big as a lot of people think.So back to the fight. Original Tyrant was Big G's equal. After his downgrade, he's still pretty uber, and right around Skyfather by most counts.
Popular assessment seems to be Odin ftw...I can't find reason to argue.
Basically, a single celestial is below a Normal big G, and definaltely a very full Big G. The two strongest Celestials TOAA and I think Exitar or Arishem are on a Big G normal level, power wise. Remember though, Celestials have different abilities than Galactus, as they draw their energy and powers from hyperspace; as Big G does from Power Cosmic Incarnate. Lets not forget, Galactus is a force of nature, yet he can be killed - but its normally PIS that does it. Really, a hole host of Celestials arent as godly as some of you think ...their small products of Eternity, G is his universal balance and 'brother' so to speak.
Odin- Mystical in nature/ Odin Force
Tyrant- Power Cosmic
In the Thanos fight, tyrant was actually weakened while Thanos got a temporary upgrade. Not to mention about 6 or 7 other herald-levelish people engaged Tyrant before Thanos did. Odin certainly has a chance. Tyrant has a chance. Ultimately, the winner will be the one who is the most resourceful i.e being able to draw power from either weapons such as the Odin Sword or Gungir, using the Odin Force and his pantheon godlike abilities ala-Odin. Or Tyrant channeling the power of planetoid biospheres and whatever energy stores he has. All I know is Tyrnat would not take Odin lightly, like he did Thanos.
With that said. How about somebody petition a writer to do a Tyrant vs Odin match..? 🙄
Originally posted by DigiMark007
I like that it's being mentioned that the gap between Skyfather and Big G isn't as big as a lot of people think.So back to the fight. Original Tyrant was Big G's equal. After his downgrade, he's still pretty uber, and right around Skyfather by most counts.
Popular assessment seems to be Odin ftw...I can't find reason to argue.
I've always believed the same. I've always believed that Galactus was more powerful than say Odin, but I never thought for a second that he was out of his league.
For example, Cyttorak was able to imprison Galactus for a short while and once even defied the will of Eternity. Now If a being that most believe to be high skyfather range can at the very least imprison Galactus, it's not unfathomable to believe Odin can at least stand to him.
Originally posted by Soujaboy
I've always believed the same. I've always believed that Galactus was more powerful than say Odin, but I never thought for a second that he was out of his league.For example, Cyttorak was able to imprison Galactus for a short while and once even defied the will of Eternity. Now If a being that most believe to be high skyfather range can at the very least imprison Galactus, it's not unfathomable to believe Odin can at least stand to him.
I actaully think that Cyttorak is above Odin. That might just be me, but he seems to be more powerful, with more complete control over his universe. There aren't many beings who could enter his realm and survive.
If the fight is in Asgard, and Odin gets full access to all his weapons and artifacts like the Odinsword, etc, then this is spite. Tyrant's not beating Odin in Asgard. Odin could cut off Tyrant's bio-energies by sealing the realm. Which he is probably capable of doing. (For those wondering why he didn't do this to Thanos, Thanos's power is self-contained). And even if he can't do that, Tyrant is still outclassed in there.
Now, on neutral ground, it becomes a harder fight to call. Even with Gungnir, I think Odin's in deep shit. Odin's power can run out, he can't fight forever. Tyrant will win by sheer endurance. But magic is a pain in the ass to figure out, so I'll say even split. Mostly because I think Odin will kamikaze if need be to destroy Tyrant. If Asgard itself was at stake, then Odin would probably sacrifice himself to destroy Tyrant. Btw, is Tyrant dead?
Originally posted by Ethereal
Basically, a single celestial is below a Normal big G, and definaltely a very full Big G. The two strongest Celestials TOAA and I think Exitar or Arishem are on a Big G normal level, power wise. Remember though, Celestials have different abilities than Galactus, as they draw their energy and powers from hyperspace; as Big G does from Power Cosmic Incarnate. Lets not forget, Galactus is a force of nature, yet he can be killed - but its normally PIS that does it. Really, a hole host of Celestials arent as godly as some of you think ...their small products of Eternity, G is his universal balance and 'brother' so to speak.Odin- Mystical in nature/ Odin Force
Tyrant- Power CosmicIn the Thanos fight, tyrant was actually weakened while Thanos got a temporary upgrade. Not to mention about 6 or 7 other herald-levelish people engaged Tyrant before Thanos did. Odin certainly has a chance. Tyrant has a chance. Ultimately, the winner will be the one who is the most resourceful i.e being able to draw power from either weapons such as the Odin Sword or Gungir, using the Odin Force and his pantheon godlike abilities ala-Odin. Or Tyrant channeling the power of planetoid biospheres and whatever energy stores he has. All I know is Tyrnat would not take Odin lightly, like he did Thanos.
With that said. How about somebody petition a writer to do a Tyrant vs Odin match..? 🙄
celestials possibly older than g galactus tends to job a lot
goin w/odin
Originally posted by aliveinboston
We saw Captain American take down Thor and batman take down the hulk so anything is possible.
Tyrant VS Thanos
Power levels: both full power, Tyrant's current level is sufficient to slay down Gladiator, Jack Of Hearts, Ganymede, SS, BRB, without any effort.His soldiers were able to take out the likes of Morg or Gladiator if needed, so Tyrant was actually treating his enemies like mere insects.
Enhacements: An energy sphere for Thanos.
Fight sequences: few hand to hand, most blasting and telekinesis.
Summary:
Thanos shows up, after Tyrant beat down the assembled team of heroes and heralds, and the two begin to fight.Thanos prove to be superior to his "allies" with a blast Tyrant notice, and the two engage in a battle in which Tyrant prove he can drag around Thanos, who gets good shots only when he uses the orb he stole.Their final confrontation is an omnidirectional blast created from Tyrant which the Mad Titan tries to counter, resulting in the disintegration of part of Tyrant's word ship/citadel.Tyrant tought it was enough, Thanos was still alive, and he teleports away.He knew he could survive the challenge, but that another assault would be fatal.Tyrant, like Odin wasn't even scratched or dazed except for the orb attack.
Facts:
Without the orb, Thanos was useless on Tyrant or almost.The orb is surely pretty powerful, that means that Tyrant feeding on his orbs is for sure near Odin's level, and considering he dispatched beings of high power like that team, he can surely gave Odin a fight.
But Tyrant must feed on the orbs to be full power, so a fresh out of orbs feeding Tyrant, VS Odin in a liveless planet, no Asgard or Wordship is the most fair battlefield.
Tyrant VS Odin
Odin outside of Asgard created shockwaves which shacked through various planes of reality, fighting Seth and it wasn't the hardest of his battles.He can surely destroy Tyrant, cause the Galactus spawned being, has a weakness like Big G, the hunger, since being stripped of most of his powers, the orbs are his support system.Surely he'll be depowered after the battle last a certain time, and in that moment, Odin's attacks will be harder than before, resulting in his destruction.
Celestials and Big G
Celestials were damaged by GodForce, but Thor destroyed Mjolnir and his belt of strength in the process, but Celestials proved to be vulnerable to Uru also on a certain range.Big G, not full power, was sent