Tyrant VS Odin

Started by celestialdemon12 pages
Originally posted by Mider
why cant he make heralds he's almost as powerful as galactus

I don't know for sure if he can or not. All I know is that he never has before. Until he shows otherwise, it must be assumed that he can't.

Nah. You don't assume he can't. You assume he knows better. Every herald of Galactus has turned on him at one point or another. Tyrant isn't stupid enough to create someone thats gonna try to take him out.

Originally posted by rotiart
Nah. You don't assume he can't. You assume he knows better. Every herald of Galactus has turned on him at one point or another. Tyrant isn't stupid enough to create someone thats gonna try to take him out.

😑 Wow. That's one of the worst assumptions I've ever seen.

Originally posted by celestialdemon
😑 Wow. That's one of the worst assumptions I've ever seen.

Your mental accuity notwithstanding. I'd assume yours is just as bad. Mine leaves that anything is possible. You say outta sight out of mind. Thats what happens to children under the age of 2. Their temperments allow them to believe that once something leaves their sight, it no longer exists.

Your saying that just because you never saw it happen. It can't happen.

I say let's entertain the idea its possible. People used to think Thanos had no reality altering, or healing powers either until recently.

Mystique the ability to phase.

spiderman the ability to sprout new powers.

You should leave the ability for it to exist alone.

He hasn't proven it yet, sure. Doesn't mean he doesn't have the ability to. Even apocalypse has his horsemen... and he's nothing compared to Tyrant.

Originally posted by celestialdemon
I don't know for sure if he can or not. All I know is that he never has before. Until he shows otherwise, it must be assumed that he can't.

Must defines it has to.

I would use "should"

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Originally posted by rotiart
Your mental accuity notwithstanding. I'd assume yours is just as bad. Mine leaves that anything is possible. You say outta sight out of mind. Thats what happens to children under the age of 2. Their temperments allow them to believe that once something leaves their sight, it no longer exists.

Your saying that just because you never saw it happen. It can't happen.

I say let's entertain the idea its possible. People used to think Thanos had no reality altering, or healing powers either until recently.

Mystique the ability to phase.

spiderman the ability to sprout new powers.

You should leave the ability for it to exist alone.

He hasn't proven it yet, sure. Doesn't mean he doesn't have the ability to. Even apocalypse has his horsemen... and he's nothing compared to Tyrant.

plus tyrant was around for like 10 issues maybe more, we cant assume he cant make a herald, when people like apoc can make sinister immortal.

good point. mr. sinisters a pimp though. I remember in the xmen cartoon when cyclops would shoot him and sinister was like.. omg damn.. i'm getting hurt... me outtee!!! 😛

Originally posted by rotiart
Your mental accuity notwithstanding. I'd assume yours is just as bad. Mine leaves that anything is possible. You say outta sight out of mind. Thats what happens to children under the age of 2. Their temperments allow them to believe that once something leaves their sight, it no longer exists.

Your saying that just because you never saw it happen. It can't happen

My exact quote was "until he shows otherwise, it must be assumed he can't." I stand by that. If any character doesn't show a power, I'm not going to assume they have it. Plain and simple.

Originally posted by rotiart
I say let's entertain the idea its possible. People used to think Thanos had no reality altering, or healing powers either until recently.

Mystique the ability to phase.

spiderman the ability to sprout new powers..

The difference is that up until they showed the ability to do those things, it was assumed they couldn't. If you would have told someone that Mystique had the ability to phase before she actually showed it on panel, you would have been called a liar.

You can entertain the idea all you want, but you can't use the possibility that someone might have the ability in a debate.

Originally posted by rotiart
You should leave the ability for it to exist alone.

I do. I state that someone can do the abilities they show they can do. I don't assume anything else.

Originally posted by rotiart
He hasn't proven it yet, sure. Doesn't mean he doesn't have the ability to. Even apocalypse has his horsemen... and he's nothing compared to Tyrant.

And this proves what exactly? That just because he's weaker than Tyrant and can create horsemen that Tyrant should be able to as well? I can't even begin to count the number of people more powerful than Apocalypse that also can't create heralds or horsemen

You are starting to get on my nerves, so i'll leave it at this. To you the world is flat.

Originally posted by bigbran
plus tyrant was around for like 10 issues maybe more, we cant assume he cant make a herald, when people like apoc can make sinister immortal.

So now we are assuming that until someone shows they DON'T have the ability to do something, we leave the possibility open. So there does exist the possibility that Sentry can beat down the LT?

Originally posted by rotiart
You are starting to get on my nerves, so i'll leave it at this. To you the world is flat.

No, it's quite round, because it's been proven. Starting to get the hang of it now.

No i don't think you do. I will always leave open the option for things to exists, because quite frankly they can. You sound like those religious fanatics that refuse to believe that other things could exists. When it was stated the world could be round. People were laughed at and ridiculed. UNTIL it was proven. guess what idjit, your one of them. To YOU, it didn't happen yet, so the possibility doesn't exist. That makes you a fool. And I always get so angry around fools.

God. What is wrong with you.

Originally posted by celestialdemon
So now we are assuming that until someone shows they DON'T have the ability to do something, we leave the possibility open. So there does exist the possibility that Sentry can beat down the LT?
yep, sure is, because sentry hasnt fought LT yet!!
when someone gets blessed with that much power, you think he miht be able to make one, and why would he need one? he doesnt eat planets, hes got his powerful robots.

the guy controls all mechanical things, he even reversed gs machines on him. he basically whiped his ass with ss and the gang.
and tyrants not a herald, he was made as a friend. you think a friend might have some super power.

Originally posted by celestialdemon
So now we are assuming that until someone shows they DON'T have the ability to do something, we leave the possibility open. So there does exist the possibility that Sentry can beat down the LT?

if spiderman beat firelord

squirrel girl beat terrax

squirrel girl beat thanos

doom beat beyonder

superman can become a herald of galactus.

yes. why not. why CAN'T it happen. why the hell is this a versus forum. to debate what COULD happen. but generally. Guess what. Most of it HASN'T. so we argue can captain america beat bane. probably yes. But they haven't fought right. it can't happen. But we go by their feats.

you sir are infuriating.

and squirel girl beat deadpool too!!

Originally posted by bigbran
the guy controls all mechanical things, he even reversed gs machines on him. he basically whiped his ass with ss and the gang.
and tyrants not a herald, he was made as a friend. you think a friend might have some super power.

actually not only a friend, but the term was equal.

since galactus felt alone in the universe.

hence. a person that was originally created to be your equal... shouldn't they inherently have the same potential.

even if those energies at that time were all drained away?

Originally posted by celestialdemon
My exact quote was "until he shows otherwise, it must be assumed he can't." I stand by that. If any character doesn't show a power, I'm not going to assume they have it. Plain and simple.

makes sense.

i've never seen wolverine fly. why would i assume he can?

that being said, i guess there is potential that in the future he could be SHOWN to have the ability. but in debates we can't use 'possibilities' as solid arguments, only things that have been shown to be true.

yeah but wolverine dont have the power cosmis even if he could fly flying isnt creating a herald with the power cosmic

Originally posted by Mider
yeah but wolverine dont have the power cosmis even if he could fly flying isnt creating a herald with the power cosmic
excactly, and tyrant on the other hand has it on a high level.we dont know tyrants full extent becaus he wasnt along for very long.
wolves on the other hand has been around for like 30 years.