Originally posted by Sea KingWhich is negated because Iceman is also a hydrokinetic, whose bodies are purely shells and can basically exist as a part of everything. Matter manipulation and dispersal of molecules.
well i honestly have not seen am do this but i have seen him controll water so it does not matter anyways because just him controlling water should be enough proof of being able to controll ice mans body.
Originally posted by Sea KingNot turning him into a water form, just water. And then randomly dispersed.
next turning him into water hum well he has been water before but now with his hand apart of him and your going to turn him to water again well thats real smart.
Originally posted by Sea KingWhat mystic waters exist in Marvel. 😬 He's a thermo/cryokinetic. Unless you're going to show mystic water is still water at absolute zero I don't see your point.
has ice man ever been shown to freez mystic waters??
Originally posted by xmarksthespotthats fair enough
Which is negated because Iceman is also a hydrokinetic, whose bodies are purely shells and can basically exist as a part of everything.
Originally posted by xmarksthespotbut aquaman is connected directly with the mystic water so he should still be alive when he is turned into water.
Not turning him into a water form, just water. And then randomly dispersed.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
What mystic waters exist in Marvel. 😬 He's a thermo/cryokinetic. Unless you're going to show mystic water is still water at absolute zero I don't see your point.
that is my point. no mystic waters exsist in marvel(that i know of) so you cant say if ice man could take the water from his body or flash freeze his insides. (his hand is mystic water it keeps him hydrated so the water in him would also be mystic.)
Originally posted by Sea KingThat's a big if.
but aquaman is connected directly with the mystic water so he should still be alive in water when he is turned into water.
Originally posted by Sea KingThat's really not a valid argument. It's like saying the Speedforce doesn't exist in Marvel so Jubilee can kill Flash.
that is my point. no mystic waters exsist in marvel(that i know of) so you cant say if ice man could take the water from his body or flash freeze his insides. (his hand is mystic water it keeps him hydrated so the water in him would also be mystic.)
The mystic water freezes unless you show it is still a liquid at absolute zero.
And the last part is just an assumption unless you can show otherwise.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
That's a big if.
That's really not a valid argument. It's like saying the Speedforce doesn't exist in Marvel so Jubilee can kill Flash.The mystic water freezes unless you show it is still a liquid at absolute zero.
And the last part is just an assumption unless you can show otherwise.
just as you are baseing your whole idea of iceman being able to turn mystic water in to ice. it has shown it turn to ice but that was when am made it turn to ice.
but that is not my point my point is ice man is a mutant thats powers effect normal water and it can only be assumed he can only use his powers on normal water because he has never been shown to controll mystic water.
(as i and batdude have talked about Captin marvel is real fast so he should be able to become intangable like sups but cm has never been show to do so. so it can be assumed that he cant do this. the same logic applys to ice man haveing any sort of effect on mystic water.)
Originally posted by Sea KingWhat? That's not analogous at all.
just as you are baseing your whole idea of iceman being able to turn mystic water in to ice.
Originally posted by Sea KingSo it freezes.
it has shown it turn to ice but that was when am made it turn to ice.
Originally posted by Sea KingNot really.
but that is not my point my point is ice man is a mutant thats powers effect normal water and it can only be assumed he can only use his powers on normal water because he has never been shown to controll mystic water.
Originally posted by Sea KingAgain not analogous.
(as i and batdude have talked about Captin marvel is real fast so he should be able to become intangable like sups but cm has never been show to do so. so it can be assumed that he cant do this. the same logic applys to ice man haveing any sort of effect on mystic water.)
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
What? That's not analogous at all.
So it freezes.
Not really.
Again not analogous.
So you're saying that reduced to near absolute zero the water doesn't freeze even though it's been shown to have a freezing point? Prove it.
right after you can proof that ice man has any effect on mystic waters
Originally posted by jrodslam
Is the water in Aquaman's blood mystic? Hell, is his blood even mystic? My take on it was that only the hand was mystic and it provided him the ability to control water. I dont think the water would be mystic. Just mystically controlled.
no i was simply saying that ams hand is what keeps him from ever dehydrateing. so he could go with out touching water ever again if he wanted. so with that said the water from his hand would have to be creating some kind of water to keep him hydrated and if that is so what is so hard to believe that the water that the mystical hand is makeing would also be mystical?
Originally posted by Sea King
no i was simply saying that ams hand is what keeps him from ever dehydrateing. so he could go with out touching water ever again if he wanted. so with that said the water from his hand would have to be creating some kind of water to keep him hydrated and if that is so what is so hard to believe that the water that the mystical hand is makeing would also be mystical?
I understand what youre saying , but its only assumption that the water that keeps him hydrated is mystical. Id be willing to bet the mystical hand only hydrates him with regular water. If it gave him mystical water, hed probably only need to do it once since its mystical in nature and shouldnt be drained unless from another mystical being.
Its just like in the Defenders series, Dr.Strange casts spells that keep Namor hydrated. The water wasnt mystical itself, but it was conjured/appeared mystically.
Originally posted by jrodslam
I understand what youre saying , but its only assumption that the water that keeps him hydrated is mystical. Id be willing to bet the mystical hand only hydrates him with regular water. If it gave him mystical water, hed probably only need to do it once since its mystical in nature and shouldnt be drained unless from another mystical being.Its just like in the Defenders series, Dr.Strange casts spells that keep Namor hydrated. The water wasnt mystical itself, but it was conjured/appeared mystically.
the thing is noone really knows how the hand hydrates him.
so it may have hydrated him once with mystical water and thats why he does not need to be anywere near water no one knows but the thing they do know is, is that he does no longer need to touch water.