Gill (SFIII third strike) vs. Omega Rugal (2002)

Originally posted by SaTsuJiN
poking at my fighting game knowledge to make it seem like you have some sort of authority is really discrediting your ability to make a good argument... such a shame

coming from someone who insist projectile spamming is a major strategy in SF2, and declares BS like 3 on 3 line up is where tag moves originate from. you don't know what your talking about.

Originally posted by SaTsuJiN
and FYI.. none of the players you listed are pallete swaps... they all have different animation and stances / taunts... you obviously dont know what a pallet swap is and you're shitting on my ability to play fighting games?.. plz... get real, kthx [/B]

Um yes they are pallet swaps, having different taunts doesn't change that 😆

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
coming from someone who insist projectile spamming is a major strategy in SF2, and declares BS like 3 on 3 line up is where tag moves originate from. you don't know what your talking aboutt.

Um yes they are pallet swaps, having different taunts doesn't change that 😆

Apparently Daigo finds it to be a major strategy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnG-OBPYa2I

k name some games that have complexity and tag team before KoF happened

Do read... you poor thing.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palette_swap 😂

see SNK mentioned in there?... eh?... what was that?..... didnt think so.. 🙂

Originally posted by SaTsuJiN
Apparently Daigo finds it to be a major strategy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnG-OBPYa2I

k name some games that have complexity and tag team before KoF happened

Do read... you poor thing.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palette_swap 😂

see SNK mentioned in there?... eh?... what was that?..... didnt think so.. 🙂

-Since when is wikipedia the source for all fighting game info 😕
This shows your lack of sense.

-Projectiles aren't a major strategy because E. hoinda,balrog and blanka are top tier

-What do you mean complexity, all fighting games are complex unless your insisting kof is complex with it's Dial-A-combo.

o.O going to a really good source of info isn't a lack of sense...

and those fighters may be very powerful, but they are still beaten by Ken, Ryu, and Akuma, whose main moves are pretty much projectiles

Originally posted by Kayne Archeron
o.O going to a really good source of info isn't a lack of sense...

and those fighters may be very powerful, but they are still beaten by Ken, Ryu, and Akuma, whose main moves are pretty much projectiles

he just gave me a video showing balrog beating sagats arse?

I never said wikipedia is bad, but using it as the authority on fighting games is senseless.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wibHFDyTnRg&search=remy%20charge%20

Here's remy spamming projectiles and he's nowhere near top tier.

that's actual people playing them though, not the characters themselves

Originally posted by Kayne Archeron
that's actual people playing them though, not the characters themselves

who else would be playing them, were talking gameplay wise.

in that case, i'd still pick sagat over balrog, even with the video

Originally posted by Kayne Archeron
in that case, i'd still pick sagat over balrog, even with the video

Me too, Sagat is my favorite SF2 character, he can't mess with balrog or zangief.

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
-Since when is wikipedia the source for all fighting game info 😕
This shows your lack of sense.

-Projectiles aren't a major strategy because E. hoinda,balrog and blanka are top tier

-What do you mean complexity, all fighting games are complex unless your insisting kof is complex with it's Dial-A-combo.

wikipedia mostly offers common sense.. now.. in order for this to be viewed as "senseless".. one must first have sense ... seeing how you didnt have the sense to know what a palette swap was.. I revealed it to you with the sense that is wikipedia

top tier is a term that describes "easiest to win with"... not characters that have been used to win tournaments

ok.. so what of all fighting games then?
lol.. dial-a-combo... when all of capcoms combos are rife with jab spams and super-whoring

Originally posted by SaTsuJiN
wikipedia mostly offers common sense.. now.. in order for this to be viewed as "senseless".. one must first have sense ... seeing how you didnt have the sense to know what a palette swap was.. I revealed it to you with the sense that is wikipedia

I know what a palete swap is, and snk suffers from it too. I gave you several examples. shingo pretty much uses the exact same animations as kyosame with vice and mature if your so blid you can't see that. then I can't help you, wikipedia is not the fighting game authority.

Originally posted by SaTsuJiN

top tier is a term that describes "easiest to win with"... not characters that have been used to win tournaments

.... doh you imply that projectile spamming is a major strategy in SF2 then proceed to show me a video of balrog (Who is top tie) destroying that strategy 😕

Top tier also describes characters with "cheap strategy", if projectile spamming was such a cheap strategy,than all the projectile users especially sagat would be top tier.

Originally posted by SaTsuJiN

ok.. so what of all fighting games then?
lol.. dial-a-combo... when all of capcoms combos are rife with jab spams and super-whoring

😆 Jab spams, do you know what their for and I know your not talking about whoring. the super whoring snk is FAAAR worst.

Kof in a nutshell

Dial-A-Combo- cancel into special into super combo.

Hell I've seen tag combo's into supers, it's ridiculous.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=vQz585cGrpk&search=kof%202003

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
I know what a palete swap is, and snk suffers from it too. I gave you several examples. shingo pretty much uses the exact same animations as kyosame with vice and mature if your so blid you can't see that. then I can't help you, wikipedia is not the fighting game authority.

.... doh you imply that projectile spamming is a major strategy in SF2 then proceed to show me a video of balrog (Who is top tie) destroying that strategy 😕

Top tier also describes characters with "cheap strategy", if projectile spamming was such a cheap strategy,than all the projectile users especially sagat would be top tier.

😆 Jab spams, do you know what their for and I know your not talking about whoring. the super whoring snk is FAAAR worst.

Kof in a nutshell

Dial-A-Combo- cancel into special into super combo.

Hell I've seen tag combo's into supers, it's ridiculous.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=vQz585cGrpk&search=kof%202003

You dont because thats not a palette swap

I showed you a video of projectile whoring... just because it doesnt work on EVERYONE doesnt mean its not a prime strategy..

lol.. you wanna talk about tag super whoring?.. watch any Marvel vs Capcom 2 video.. uppercut into the air.. jab jab jab jab special > super > jab jab jab > call out striker > jab jab jab > tag> super > jab jab jab > tagteam super....KO

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XFAsiteAFU

Originally posted by SaTsuJiN
You dont because thats not a palette swap

I showed you a video of projectile whoring... just because it doesnt work on EVERYONE doesnt mean its not a prime strategy..

Are you incapable of common sense? you showed me a video of balrog destroying that strategy with ease and I just told you that he's top tier. now how is that prime strategy of street fighter 2 when it's not even top tier?

Originally posted by SaTsuJiN

lol.. you wanna talk about tag super whoring?.. watch any Marvel vs Capcom 2 video.. uppercut into the air.. jab jab jab jab special > super > jab jab jab > call out striker > jab jab jab > tag> super > jab jab jab > tagteam super....KO

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XFAsiteAFU

😆
I knew you would go there, MVC2 is crap so what?

Ironically snk stole the tag system from capcoms versus series 😆

And about the palete swap, you are aware that ken,ryu,and gouki are head swaps not palete swaps just like ralph/clark,kim jae hoon/kim don hwan,/Vice/mature and shingo/kyo. they have pretty much the exact same animations.

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Are you incapable of common sense? you showed me a video of balrog destroying that strategy with ease and I just told you that he's top tier. now how is that prime strategy of street fighter 2 when it's not even top tier?

😆
I knew you would go there, MVC2 is crap so what?

Ironically snk stole the tag system from capcoms versus series 😆

And about the palete swap, you are aware that ken,ryu,and gouki are head swaps not palete swaps just like ralph/clark,kim jae hoon/kim don hwan,/Vice/mature and shingo/kyo. they have pretty much the exact same animations.

I showed you a video showcasing the fireball crap... then you base your entire argument on 1 match that happened during the entire video.. so how solid is your point again?.. nuff said...

Ironically they left out the jab combos that parade around as skillful.. for the better IMO

wow.. change gi from white to red... paint some blonde hair on ryu and bam.. got ken.. rinse and repeat... the same cannot be done for the KoF's you've listed.. and they dont have the same animations.. its more than obvious you're selectively blind in an attempt to make yourself look correct.. pity tha foo'~

oh and fer the record... pretty much does not equal the exact same
pretty much = / = the exact same

Originally posted by SaTsuJiN
I showed you a video showcasing the fireball crap... then you base your entire argument on 1 match that happened during the entire video.. so how solid is your point again?.. nuff said...

I base my argument oon the knowledge of the game and witnessing the amount of invincible frames that make throwing projectiles useless;trying spamming projectiles against a good zangief player. and again, projectile spamming is not top tier at all so how is it a prime strategy, nuff said.

Originally posted by SaTsuJiN

Ironically they left out the jab combos that parade around as skillful.. for the better IMO

wow.. change gi from white to red... paint some blonde hair on ryu and bam.. got ken.. rinse and repeat... the same cannot be done for the KoF's you've listed.. and they dont have the same animations.. its more than obvious you're selectively blind in an attempt to make yourself look correct.. pity tha foo'~

Wow, do you realise that jae hwon and don hwan have pretty much the same move set, the same apply's for kyo/shingo, and vice and mature?
anyone who plays kof could see that, I don't even wanna go to samurai showdown and mention hanzo/Ganford, snk head swaps way more than capcom.

You can only name a few head swaps from one fighting game series (Street fighter) and proceed to say capcom head swaps. as opposed to snk with kof, samurai showdown, etc. try naming other games besides street fighter. 😆

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
I base my argument oon the knowledge of the game and witnessing the amount of invincible frames that make throwing projectiles useless;trying spamming projectiles against a good zangief player. and again, projectile spamming is not top tier at all so how is it a prime strategy, nuff said.

Wow, do you realise that jae hwon and don hwan have pretty much the same move set, the same apply's for kyo/shingo, and vice and mature?
anyone who plays kof could see that, I don't even wanna go to samurai showdown and mention hanzo/Ganford, snk head swaps way more than capcom.

You can only name a few head swaps from one fighting game series (Street fighter) and proceed to say capcom head swaps. as opposed to snk with kof, samurai showdown, etc. try naming other games besides street fighter. 😆

Obviously Daigo finds it a good enough strategy to use.. and you're no daigo.. nuff said..

no they dont.. now you're making up crap.. anyone who's played with these characters would tell you differently

yeah.. galford leans forward.. with no mask.. and has totally different animations... while hanzo leans backwards with a mask, and totally different animations of his own.. way to support your headswap theory! 😆 😆

street fighter is all capcom can do.. isnt that obvious?... marvel vs street fighter.. x men vs street fighter.. marvel vs capcom... capcom vs snk.. they dont have anything else thats good

Originally posted by SaTsuJiN
Obviously Daigo finds it a good enough strategy to use.. and you're no daigo.. nuff said..

Neither are you 😕

So because daigo picks his favorite character and uses A strategy it's top tier, that pretty much proves you don't know what your talking about.

Originally posted by SaTsuJiN

no they dont.. now you're making up crap.. anyone who's played with these characters would tell you differently

Let's see here, I've played most of the kof's and own a couple so yeah I can speak for them Ralf and Clark were pretty much identical outside of maybe two moves in KOF 94 (I their vulcan punches and supers were the only things separating them... oh, and their jumping hk).

Originally posted by SaTsuJiN

yeah.. galford leans forward.. with no mask.. and has totally different animations... while hanzo leans backwards with a mask, and totally different animations of his own.. way to support your headswap theory! 😆 😆

And shawn moves faster in his stances and has a different dragon punch and tornado kick, by your logic he's not a shoto head swap..wait he is. 😆

Originally posted by SaTsuJiN

street fighter is all capcom can do.. isnt that obvious?... marvel vs street fighter.. x men vs street fighter.. marvel vs capcom... capcom vs snk.. they dont have anything else thats good

Vampire savior, project justice, muscle bomber, saturday night slam masters...yeah they can't do better, make sure you know what your talking about before looking like an idiot.

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Neither are you 😕

So because daigo picks his favorite character and uses A strategy it's top tier, that pretty much proves you don't know what your talking about.

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Let's see here, I've played most of the kof's and own a couple so yeah I can speak for them Ralf and Clark were pretty much identical outside of maybe two moves in KOF 94 (I their vulcan punches and supers were the only things separating them... oh, and their jumping hk).

yeah because most = all.... 😐
I noticed the only nonsense you could even come close to relating this with is KoF 94.. and how old is that?

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
And shawn moves faster in his stances and has a different dragon punch and tornado kick, by your logic he's not a shoto head swap..wait he is. 😆

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Vampire savior, project justice, muscle bomber, saturday night slam masters...yeah they can't do better, make sure you know what your talking about before looking like an idiot.

LOL saturday night slam masters... what crap... they havent done that or a rival schools game in god knows how long and you're bringing them up?.. pathetic....and wheres a new darkstalkers?.. oh wait there isnt one! of course, I must be an idiot... seeing how SNK updates their franchises and capcom's most recent entry is 3rd strike / Cap vs SNK 2.. both which involve street fighter... and oh yes.. lets not forget another megaman aniversary pack.. we cant get enough of those

I think Fuuma and Hanzo from World Heroes were swaps if nobody's mentioned them yet. Could be wrong though. SaT, Robert is pretty cool & SNK should've went forward w/him instead of lame @ss Ryo. I agree w/you on that.

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Ash rocks.

Originally posted by SaTsuJiN
He wins tournaments right?.. you dont?.... and I dont know what I'm talking about? 🙂

Yes, you don't know what your talking about. your trying to say projectile spamming is a prime strategy, despite the fact virtually know one with projectiles is top tier. If it were such a powerful strategy it would be top tier; refering to daigo doesn't mean the strategy is top tier, it just mens daigo is good. again, you don't know what you're talking about.

Originally posted by SaTsuJiN

yeah because most = all.... 😐
I noticed the only nonsense you could even come close to relating this with is KoF 94.. and how old is that?

Who cares how old 94 is, you said snk doesn't do head or palette swaps, you were wrong.

Originally posted by SaTsuJiN

his idle animation is a headswap... not the rest of his character... where in SNK's case.. all the characters you mentioned have neither the features of a headswap OR a palette swap... you may need glasses soon

Oh you mean ralph and clark which I just proved, vice and mature is freaking obvious so is shingo and kyo. instead of whining "it's not it's not"
Why not prove I'm wrong.

Originally posted by SaTsuJiN

LOL saturday night slam masters... what crap... they havent done that or a rival schools game in god knows how long and you're bringing them up?.. pathetic....and wheres a new darkstalkers?.. oh wait there isnt one! of course, I must be an idiot... seeing how SNK updates their franchises and capcom's most recent entry is 3rd strike / Cap vs SNK 2.. both which involve street fighter... and oh yes.. lets not forget another megaman aniversary pack.. we cant get enough of those

😆 Man your lame, you said capcom only has street fighter, then change subject to try to show that they don't make any fighting games. I hate to break it yo you but 2d fighting games don't sell at all, this isn't the 90's 😆 and the only snk title that's retained popularity is Samurai Showdown 2, unlike capcom, snk titles aren't as popular.

Street Fighter 2 is considered the greatest fighting game ever by many and so is Third Strike. all of snk's popular titles have utilized the SF2 engine. 😆