Originally posted by DarkC
I never said you were, although to whoever said that to you, they probably got the impression that you were taking this a little too seriously. I don't.And yeah, just because I frequent the OTF doesn't mean I'm brainless. A lot of people here are smart, they're just too lazy to show it.
Then they don't deserve the credit of being smart unless they show it. Also, smart is reasonably down to perception. George Bush is smart to KidRock.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Coming from the guy who said he'd firebomb Raz if the OTF was deleted, and the guy who hardly ever posted in the GDF until I raised it to him, this doesn't hold a lot of credibility.-AC
I'm just quite annoyed that PVS was judging the mentality of the entire OTF on the actions of a few and the fact that he doesn't stick around too often. Even I'm not naive enough to say that the entire GDF forum is a bunch of snobby, arrogant, hard-nosed stiffs.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I don't know, when did it? You ask me if I am using it in a derogatory way, then ask me when I started doing so.Are you not going to allow me the chance to say "No"? Sy, if you're going to get over-dramatic, please stop.
I've used the term GDFer, OTFer etc for ages now, and mean it in no other way than someone who frequents said forums.
-AC
My bad, I read it wrong.
I'm being over-dramatic? All I wanted was a discussion involving peoples' opinions on whether they think the OTF should stay or go. I never wanted a GDF vs OTF all out war.
I know which forum would stay if it came to it, I'm sure almost all the people here would admit it would be the GDF, regardless of which forum they favour. But I don't want it to come to that, it's probably going to and I wish I'd never opened this thread. Or perhaps I should have opened it in the GDF? But then, I had no idea it would become this serious.
So yes, I probably am getting a little wound up, but I hate to see everyone fighting over which forum is better. That's not what this is about.
Originally posted by DarkC
Fine. I take that in stride.I'm just quite annoyed that PVS was judging the mentality of the entire OTF on the actions of a few and the fact that he doesn't stick around too often. Even I'm not naive enough to say that the entire GDF forum is a bunch of snobby, arrogant, hard-nosed stiffs.
I am in here more than PVS, much more, and whilst I don't necessarily agree with the degree to which he claims that, I can most certainly agree that every single member of the true frequenters of this forum (Vinny, Rev etc) have participated in, or currently have, a few diabolically shit threads to their name. Those that do not, partake in them.
I have nothing against those members either, but I speak the truth.
-AC
Originally posted by DarkC
*sigh*Some "monkeys" think that the "stiffs" take things too seriously in the OTF, at least most of the time. And some "stiffs" think that it's damn near impossible for the "monkeys" to get serious when the GDF near demands it.
I suppose that's the most simple way to put it.
We're monkeys! We're reckless, arrogant, stupid monkeys. And the GDF are stiffs. And Raz is an admin. Admins don't like monkeys, because admins get attacked by monkeys. But monkeys also ttack stiffs: stiffs that just want to argue on everything. Admins may think they can deal with stiffs their way. But the only thing that can attack a stiff is a monkey, with some balls. The problem with monkeys is: they attack too much or attack when it isn't appropriate - and it takes a stiff to show them that. But sometimes, admins can be so full of shit that they become stiffs themselves... because admins are an inch and half away from stiffs. I don't know much about this crazy, crazy world, but I do know this: If you don't let us attack this stiff, we're going to have our monkeys and admins all covered in shit!
Yeah, couldnt think of a word so I put in 'attack' ermm
Originally posted by Syren
My bad, I read it wrong.I'm being over-dramatic? All I wanted was a discussion involving peoples' opinions on whether they think the OTF should stay or go. I never wanted a GDF vs OTF all out war.
I know which forum would stay if it came to it, I'm sure almost all the people here would admit it would be the GDF, regardless of which forum they favour. But I don't want it to come to that, it's probably going to and I wish I'd never opened this thread.
So yes, I probably am getting a little wound up, but I hate to see everyone fighting over which forum is better. That's not what this is about.
Think about the dynamics of your actions:
You create a thread called "Our BELOVED OTF - Deleted?", IN the OTF of all places. What did you expect? Hardly anyone believes it should actually be deleted, first off. Second, the place you created it was bound to generate bias for the OTF, which is being significantly aimed at anyone who dare question it.
I personally believe, despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary, that you didn't intend for this to be a biased, pro-OTF for no reason thread. However, you must have thought that subconsciously, because this kind of thread, right down to the title, suggests that it is.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I am in here more than PVS, much more, and whilst I don't necessarily agree with the degree to which he claims that, I can most certainly agree that every single member of the true frequenters of this forum (Vinny, Rev etc) have participated in, or currently have, a few diabolically shit threads to their name. Those that do not, partake in them.I have nothing against those members either, but I speak the truth.
-AC
You have to admit that the members you've mentioned also have some pretty interesting and enjoyable threads to their names as well, though. Why is it always the negative that's highlighted?
Originally posted by DarkC
Fine. I take that in stride.I'm just quite annoyed that PVS was judging the mentality of the entire OTF on the actions of a few and the fact that he doesn't stick around too often. Even I'm not naive enough to say that the entire GDF forum is a bunch of snobby, arrogant, hard-nosed stiffs.
Well, you've got to admit that there's a lot of people in the OTF with far over-inflated egos in here, and that a lot of OTFers think that this section is the end-all-be-all of KMC. Like all the 'popularity' contests and how people who have done not a single thing on this site are so popular in the OTF, but are unheard of to anyone who primarily posts elsewhere.
Originally posted by Mišt
We're monkeys! We're reckless, arrogant, stupid monkeys. And the GDF are stiffs. And Raz is an admin. Admins don't like monkeys, because admins get attacked by monkeys. But monkeys also ttack stiffs: stiffs that just want to argue on everything. Admins may think they can deal with stiffs their way. But the only thing that can attack a stiff is a monkey, with some balls. The problem with monkeys is: they attack too much or attack when it isn't appropriate - and it takes a stiff to show them that. But sometimes, admins can be so full of shit that they become stiffs themselves... because admins are an inch and half away from stiffs. I don't know much about this crazy, crazy world, but I do know this: If you don't let us attack this stiff, we're going to have our monkeys and admins all covered in shit!Yeah, couldnt think of a word so I put in 'attack' ermm
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Originally posted by DarkC
That post reeks so much of bias my eyes are starting to water furiously.
doesnt take away from the truth. a truth which was exhibited here for all to see.
i gave my opinion, and got a "get the hell out" and was accused of insulting people when i clearly didnt. of coarse the person who did this ran away because he has better things to do than be take back his ridiculous statements and false accusations.
so that didnt happen? please, post something useful
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Think about the dynamics of your actions:You create a thread called "Our BELOVED OTF - Deleted?", IN the OTF of all places. What did you expect? Hardly anyone believes it should actually be deleted, first off. Second, the place you created it was bound to generate bias for the OTF, which is being significantly aimed at anyone who dare question it.
-AC
Didn't I just say that I hadn't the foresight to see that it could potentially become serious enough to warrant being opened in the GDF?
You and I both know that had I opened it in the GDF it would have been moved to the OTF straight away, without being given a chance for a serious discussion to develop.
Should I have opened it in one of the other forums? Hardly, leaving the only viable option the OTF.
I'm not psychic AC, had I known it would have triggered such a discussion I would not have opened it here.
Originally posted by Syren
You have to admit that the members you've mentioned also have some pretty interesting and enjoyable threads to their names as well, though. Why is it always the negative that's highlighted?
Because that's what we're discussing isn't it? For every...one semi-decent throwaway fun thread they create, they probably have about five shit ones to their name. On top of all the others.
Naming the positives would be inconsequential. Like if George Bush lowered taxes on his last day, you wouldn't say "Good man, see? Why highlight the bad." would you?
-AC
Originally posted by Bardock42
I love you...no seriously...I love you...marry me...although...can I trust you..I have to know for sure....you know what that means.
Im not sure...I mean....you are German after all....but....oh god Im so confused....I need some time.....and some air...oh god Im sweating....Ill have to get back to you..
Originally posted by PVS
doesnt take away from the truth. a truth which was exhibited here for all to see.
i gave my opinion, and got a "get the hell out" and was accused of insulting people when i clearly didnt. of coarse the person who did this ran away because he has better things to do than be take back his ridiculous statements and false accusations.so that didnt happen? please, post something useful
No, he just doesn't care enough to stay...and quite honestly man, get a life, if it's bothering you that much. 😂