Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
The irony is, I said Syren was resorting to it in a post that doesn't require it, I never said that I was incapable of posting smarmy, sarcastic remarks, which was the sole intent of that post.Try getting something right, just once at least, or leave Syren and I to discuss our issue.
-AC
At what point in the argument was a "life ring" required?
Im losing count of the amount of hypocritical posts you're making.
And for the record, I was, and am willing to take part in the "pleasant conversation", you're the one who took it off-topic, so its really our fault if its become less "pleasant"
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
The difference is, my swings end up with the ball landing outside the "park" with a significant, cartoon-style thumb.Yours end with a significant "Whoosh" sound, due to missing, as I proved when I dissected your claims.
Anything else?
-AC
I would also like to mention the fact that even though you're so against the OTF, you stoop to the maturity of the average stupid OTF'er, and use a condescending attitude. As well as acting like your opinions are proven fact. That proves your ignorant, and not open to the opinions of the general public. Just a select few.
You act superior than the rest of the OTF, yet you fail to prove to anyone that you're even on par.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
We're discussing why this particular part of the forum is anything to be proud of, which you said is something you'd like to achieve. I've given reason why it isn't something to be proud of.
No, we're not. I've never said anything about whether the OTF is a forum to be proud of unless it was in response to you, and to state that I've never said that. The only thing I mentioned being proud of is KMC as a whole and that I'd be more proud of KMC (as a whole) if our members were more welcoming towards the newcomers.
I didn't mention this particular part of the forum, AC, at least not until you did. Check if you have to 😬
First and foremost, the OTFers will defend the OTF regardless of what it is, so you are likely to get biased replies in here.Secondly, I know you are referring to KMC as a whole, but you also referred to the OTF. My main point conjoining the two is: I personally don't grasp why you make effort to be proud of an internet forum. That, however, is purely opinion and you can naturally do as you wish.
-AC
I'm not making the effort so that I can be proud of KMC, that would probably be a consequence but it's not for that reason. I genuinely want newcomers to be more comfortable and treated fairly. That's the whole reason for this thread. So I decorated it with a little silliness, is that the reason you questioned its existence?
Originally posted by Xirius
Yeah, thats actually the point of view I meant it from. You used childish and pointless taunts, most of which are below the actualy standards of people in the OTF. Hence, you are a hypocrite for accusing Syren of it, whe the post she used was composed of more intelligence and logic than what you said.
Hypocrite for accusing Syren of it? How am I? I accused her of resorting to it in a debate where she can do better than that, I never said using it at all is stupid, or "OTF" style action posts are wrong.
So it's not really hypocricy is it? It's more like...you misunderstanding.
Originally posted by Xirius
Im not saying the conversation is pointless, Im saying that your childess taunts. Im not struggling to win, I was just pointing out what I saw this thread to actually be about. The more I did this, the more you replied with senseless crap. Im still getting it wrong? You're the one who's still using the whole "The opening post was unclear" line, even though Syren has repeatedly noted this, its irrelevant to bring it up anymore, its been established that you found it unclear.The more you go on, the more you reduce your argument to that of "OTF" standard, which is actually kind of funny.
Senseless crap, me? What would you call the above paragraph then?
Syren and I have long since passed the whole clarity of the issue, you are the one still dwelling on it, which is why I have to specify the idea. I'm not bringing it up to rub it in Syren's face that she was unclear, she knows she was, she apologised and I accepted her apology.
You have got yourself very confused and now you're too far in to admit such. It honestly doesn't bother me, I don't debate unless I know I'm right and/or can back it up. I'll always have an answer because I always have my bases covered, I'm not stupid. Which means your claims will only get more and more silly. Proceed as you wish.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
The difference is, my swings end up with the ball landing outside the "park" with a significant, cartoon-style thumb.Yours end with a significant "Whoosh" sound, due to missing, as I proved when I dissected your claims.
Anything else?
-AC
No, the difference is that you're folding back on yourself regularly with hypocrisy. Every one of your points has been shown as a) formed on misconceptions, b) basically wrong or c)overflowing with hypocrisy.
Originally posted by Xirius
At what point in the argument was a "life ring" required?
Im losing count of the amount of hypocritical posts you're making.
Note the fact that it was a two-line post, segregated from any argument and posted with the sole purpose of being smarmy and sarcastic.
It wasn't in the context of any argument. Go on...continue.
Originally posted by Xirius
And for the record, I was, and am willing to take part in the "pleasant conversation", you're the one who took it off-topic, so its really our fault if its become less "pleasant"
Not really. Syren hasn't got a problem with moving on with the discussion at hand, has she? I don't either. The only ones keeping it this way are you and Kings.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Hypocrite for accusing Syren of it? How am I? I accused her of resorting to it in a debate where she can do better than that, I never said using it at all is stupid, or "OTF" style action posts are wrong.So it's not really hypocricy is it? It's more like...you misunderstanding.
Senseless crap, me? What would you call the above paragraph then?
Syren and I have long since passed the whole clarity of the issue, you are the one still dwelling on it, which is why I have to specify the idea. I'm not bringing it up to rub it in Syren's face that she was unclear, she knows she was, she apologised and I accepted her apology.
You have got yourself very confused and now you're too far in to admit such. It honestly doesn't bother me, I don't debate unless I know I'm right and/or can back it up. I'll always have an answer because I always have my bases covered, I'm not stupid. Which means your claims will only get more and more silly. Proceed as you wish.
-AC
AC, I'll ask you outright as you'll probably be more likely to listen.
Could you find it in you to step away from this discussion? I'm happy to continue talking with you as I feel we were getting somewhere, but the conversation you're having with Xirius is going round in circles, I'm sure you're aware of that. I'm not a mod so I can't really expect you to agree, but would you mind? I'd like to get back on topic now I've clarified things, and as LethalFemme said, it's hard to see the on-topic responses for all the arrogant smog 😬
Originally posted by TheKingofKINGS!
As you proved in a biased hypocritical way? You really made yourself seem more unintelligent that I in that post. And being more unintelligent than me is a pretty freaking hard thing to do.
Let's be honest, I didn't do any of that did I? No. If you want to make yourself feel good, get a voice affirmation box. Don't sit there hyping yourself up by telling yourself that you're unintelligent, that's just silly, haha.
Originally posted by TheKingofKINGS!
I would also like to mention the fact that even though you're so against the OTF, you stoop to the maturity of the average stupid OTF'er, and use a condescending attitude. As well as acting like your opinions are proven fact. That proves your ignorant, and not open to the opinions of the general public. Just a select few.
I would also like to mention that I'm not, never have been and never will be against the OTF. Swing and a miss, yet again.
Secondly, it has nothing to do with being open to opinions. I specifically just said to Syren that regardless of me disagreeing with hers, she is entitled to it, it doesn't affect me. Swing and a miss, twice in one paragraph.
Originally posted by TheKingofKINGS!
You act superior than the rest of the OTF, yet you fail to prove to anyone that you're even on par.
I've got nothing to prove on this site, especially to you.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Hypocrite for accusing Syren of it? How am I? I accused her of resorting to it in a debate where she can do better than that, I never said using it at all is stupid, or "OTF" style action posts are wrong.So it's not really hypocricy is it? It's more like...you misunderstanding.
Senseless crap, me? What would you call the above paragraph then?
Syren and I have long since passed the whole clarity of the issue, you are the one still dwelling on it, which is why I have to specify the idea. I'm not bringing it up to rub it in Syren's face that she was unclear, she knows she was, she apologised and I accepted her apology.
You have got yourself very confused and now you're too far in to admit such. It honestly doesn't bother me, I don't debate unless I know I'm right and/or can back it up. I'll always have an answer because I always have my bases covered, I'm not stupid. Which means your claims will only get more and more silly. Proceed as you wish.
-AC
It hypocrosy in that you clearly hold yourself as being above OTF standards, as youve clearly said in this and other threads, and yet you resort to childish taunts of a nature that are far below its standards.
Seriously, next time you post, make sure you havent already posted the exact same argument, its getting boring to have to disprove the same thing over and over again. It's not that Im misunderstanding, its more that you assume my argument to be something based on condescneding assumptions.
Goddamnit, let GO of your f.ucking egos for once in your lives. If I've overcome the urge to tread on people during a discussion then I'm sure you're all capable of it. I'm one of the most egotistical, obnoxious people I know.
Please, move on. You're all being exceedingly ridiculous. This is just proving my point about the abundance of hostility and negative atmosphere in the forum as a whole. No wonder new members either don't stay long or choose to rebel just to vent some frustration.
Originally posted by Syren
AC, I'll ask you outright as you'll probably be more likely to listen.Could you find it in you to step away from this discussion? I'm happy to continue talking with you as I feel we were getting somewhere, but the conversation you're having with Xirius is going round in circles, I'm sure you're aware of that. I'm not a mod so I can't really expect you to agree, but would you mind? I'd like to get back on topic now I've clarified things, and as LethalFemme said, it's hard to see the on-topic responses for all the arrogant smog 😬
Ill stop the argument, but I will just say that AC needs to stop bashing the OTF and then stooping far below it, its kind of pathetic.
So, back on topic then?
Originally posted by Syren
No, we're not. I've never said anything about whether the OTF is a forum to be proud of unless it was in response to you, and to state that I've never said that. The only thing I mentioned being proud of is KMC as a whole and that I'd be more proud of KMC (as a whole) if our members were more welcoming towards the newcomers.I didn't mention this particular part of the forum, AC, at least not until you did. Check if you have to 😬
You said that you'd like the OTF to be a place to be proud of.
Originally posted by Syren
I'm not making the effort so that I can be proud of KMC, that would probably be a consequence but it's not for that reason. I genuinely want newcomers to be more comfortable and treated fairly. That's the whole reason for this thread. So I decorated it with a little silliness, is that the reason you questioned its existence?
Like I said, you can do entirely as you wish, I'm just asking questions to get answers. If you had did exactly as you intended to do, clearly (which you clarified in the end), then I wouldn't have made the post I did. You don't get answers without asking questions.
Originally posted by Syren
Could you find it in you to step away from this discussion? I'm happy to continue talking with you as I feel we were getting somewhere, but the conversation you're having with Xirius is going round in circles, I'm sure you're aware of that. I'm not a mod so I can't really expect you to agree, but would you mind? I'd like to get back on topic now I've clarified things, and as LethalFemme said, it's hard to see the on-topic responses for all the arrogant smog
Most definitely, out of respect for you asking pleasantly, I will reply to him or anyone else now, via PMs.
-AC
Originally posted by Syren
Goddamnit, let GO of your f.ucking egos for once in your lives. If I've overcome the urge to tread on people during a discussion then I'm sure you're all capable of it. I'm one of the most egotistical, obnoxious people I know.Please, move on. You're all being exceedingly ridiculous. This is just proving my point about the abundance of hostility and negative atmosphere in the forum as a whole. No wonder new members either don't stay long or choose to rebel just to vent some frustration.
I think it's done.