Welcoming New Members

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Yet you clearly also did the opposite and at the very least, implied that I have some kind of lacking in the understanding dept, which has now ironically left you floating like some kind of buoyant hypocrite.

-AC

Intelligence comes in many forms. And everyone makes mistakes. Just because I said I thought you misunderstodd something, didnt mean that I thought you were mentally slow, or unintelligent in that, or any other regard. I simple meant that you misunderstood from the beginning and form opinions based on that. Thats it.

Now ironically, you once again misunderstood what was said, and once again formed an opinion based on it.

Originally posted by TheKingofKINGS!
No, seriously. You attempt to knock down Syren saying she "used OTF debating" when you some and use it yourself. The hypocrisy is killing me. You seem bound and determined to prove that the OTF is worse than every other forum ever, but it's not. You will fail in that mission. The OTF serves a purpose, and if you fail to see that purpose, you're not as intelligent as I thought.

Where, oh where do I start? I said she resorted to OTF debating as in the style of, not literally debating in the forum, and she realised that. Strike one for King.

Two: It is the "worst" forum if we're discussing thread content. I only ever raise the issue in threads related to said discussion. Strike two for King.

Three: I'm the one who said we should keep it because I AM aware of its purpose.

You're out.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
The OTF is a luxury afforded to members who simply can't grasp topics or don't wish to. It's a glorified chatroom, more or less, that's all.

If Raz chose to delete one forum, he would delete that with the least meaning, the OTF. If you want to chat, be sociable and things of that nature, you should go to a purely social forum or a chatroom, not a discussion board. Raz has allowed members this luxury, but that's all it is. It's not a valuable asset to the forum.

I'm well aware of that fact and subsequently appreciative of Raz's efforts. I know that a lot of people who spend most, or all, of their time in the OTF are blissfully unaware that the OTF could be deleted at any moment with good reason, but again this thread is about treating new members with a little less hostility and portraying KMC in a better light and so forth. We're not discussing the future of the OTF, or how social KMC is or isn't, so quit it 😛

Let's review the key part of this post: "I can imagine how frustrated you get...". Yes, you can IMAGINE, that doesn't make it true. You get frustrated on my behalf, but I think we both know that we have different emotional dispositions, don't we?

I don't care whether you feel it's human nature or not, it's not a fact, because I am living proof that it's wrong, so are many people. It means nothing to me, because I don't debate in areas that I can prove people wrong unless I know I can. So therefore I'm not achieving anything by doing it, I already know I'm right. It's nothing to do with satisfaction.

Ok, fine. Yes, we have very different emotional dispositions, but do you have to take digs?? cry

Kidding... I'll take your word for it. You're probably an exception, I'm quite willing to believe that.

Why would you want to make effort to feel proud of this forum? Look at the threads.

Let's put this forward: The top used forum on the net comes to inspect KMC, you have to nominate one forum which indicated KMC deserves respect for its members and threads, right? How fast will you nominate the OTF with all it's Vinny threads, lounge threads and what not?

How fast will you nominate the GDF, with all its political, somewhat philosophical and mature debate topics? Members, also, for the most part being smarter.

I think we know.

-AC

When I refer to 'the forum', are you aware that I mean KMC as a whole and NOT just the OTF? Because I think we've crossed wires here somewhere. I would like to feel proud of KMC in respect of the way we conduct ourselves when new members join. I would like the forum as an entirety to be a more comfortable place for newcomers to post, no matter which board they spend the most time in.

And yes, if that were ever to happen I'd nominate the GDF. But again, that's not the issue here.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Because I read the post, and the title, both clearly point to the misleading idea that Syren is more focused on making effort to welcome rather than making effort to stop the new members being harassed.

She even went so far as to suggest a welcoming committee.

-AC

the title, yes that does point to that opinion, but, to me anyway, the post itself seemed pretty clear.
Although, if you'd like to repeat your post again , using slightly different words, feel free, I can tell you enjoy doing it so much.

Originally posted by Xirius
Intelligence comes in many forms. And everyone makes mistakes. Just because I said I thought you misunderstodd something, didnt mean that I thought you were mentally slow, or unintelligent in that, or any other regard. I simple meant that you misunderstood from the beginning and form opinions based on that. Thats it.

Now ironically, you once again misunderstood what was said, and once again formed an opinion based on it.

I assumed that you thought I have a lack of understanding, which you clearly did, as you said I misunderstood something blatantly clear.

So I'm technically correct there. Moose said you called me unintelligent, I didn't. I said you did the opposite to not forming an opinion.

-AC

gah...this is boring...I'm going to the GDF for some laughs....

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Where, oh where do I start? I said she resorted to OTF debating as in the style of, not literally debating in the forum, and she realised that. Strike one for King.

He quite cleary meant that you yourself had resorted to debating in the "style" of the OTF when you made that life-ring remark.
Hence the hypocrisy.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Where, oh where do I start? I said she resorted to OTF debating as in the style of, not literally debating in the forum, and she realised that. Strike one for King.

Two: It is the "worst" forum if we're discussing thread content. I only ever raise the issue in threads related to said discussion. Strike two for King.

Three: I'm the one who said we should keep it because I AM aware of its purpose.

You're out.

-AC

I actually NEVER go to the welcome forum...well except the day I started here 🙂

Originally posted by BlackSunshine
I actually NEVER go to the welcome forum...well except the day I started here 🙂

Originally posted by Xirius
the title, yes that does point to that opinion, but, to me anyway, the post itself seemed pretty clear.
Although, if you'd like to repeat your post [B]again , using slightly different words, feel free, I can tell you enjoy doing it so much. [/B]

The key words there are "To you, anyway". Syren (that chick who posted said post) admitted that she should have clarified and wasn't clear enough.

So either you are perceptive to superhuman level, or you are acting as though you understood to get your point across. I have the back up of the thread starter, you don't.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Because I read the post, and the title, both clearly point to the misleading idea that Syren is more focused on making effort to welcome rather than making effort to stop the new members being harassed.

She even went so far as to suggest a welcoming committee.

-AC

Oh god, I already clarified myself. I can't edit my initial post, I would if I could. Have the decency to get over it?

Also, the 'welcoming committee' was a joke, hence the cookie proposition. You can very well see that so stop using it as ammunition. Remember where we are please.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
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Moose said you called me unintelligent, I didn't. I said you did the opposite to not forming an opinion.

-AC

I misread it....but he did call you intelligent, so technically, he said he didn't form opinions of people in a short period of time, (something like that) so, therefore, my assertation that he was incorrect was in fact, erm, correct.

I'm leaving.... 😑

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I assumed that you thought I have a lack of understanding, which you clearly did, as you said I misunderstood something blatantly clear.

So I'm technically correct there. Moose said you called me unintelligent, I didn't. I said you did the opposite to not forming an opinion.

-AC

As I said, everyone makes mistakes, so I didnt form an opinoin of you based on this one opinon. And I didnt say you lack understanding, I said that you seemed to have based your understanding on a single point, (the title), and used that to form all other ideas.
I said you made a mistake, that doesnt seem like Ive formed an opinion on you because of it. As I said, everyone makes mistakes.

Originally posted by Xirius
He quite cleary meant that you yourself had resorted to debating in the "style" of the OTF when you made that life-ring remark.
Hence the hypocrisy.

Wow, you ARE psychic, and your name begins with X, so from now on you're known as Prof.

Considering I am the one who most notably uses said remarks in the GDF before I even came to the OTF, I'd suggest research on your part.

-AC

Originally posted by Syren
Oh god, I already clarified myself. I can't edit my initial post, I would if I could. Have the decency to get over it?

Also, the 'welcoming committee' was a joke, hence the cookie proposition. You can very well see that so stop using it as ammunition. Remember where we are please.

Which is why I am continually saying that you clarified youself, remember where we are please.

-AC

Originally posted by ~Da Moose~
I misread it....but he did call you intelligent, so technically, he said he didn't form opinions of people in a short period of time, (something like that) so, therefore, my assertation that he was incorrect was in fact, erm, correct.

I'm leaving.... 😑

I said he seems to consider himself intelligent, not that I do.

Stop derailing the thread you 'orrible lot! nono

If you have issues with one another, please take it elsewhere. I'm beginning to regret starting this thread.

I'm gonna go bash some n00bs in a minute to make myself feel better disgust

I'm all for welcoming new members. I believe it's the only way the forums will progress.

I'm cool with them unless they start stupid bashing or petty name calling.