Originally posted by Fire
Ppl shouldn't get respect just for having a degree. But intelligent ppl generally know and accept that having a degree respresents a lot of hard work and people with a degree in a certain field generally have a good understanding of that certain field.
Well, that might be true, but if it is they can just back it up and everyone will be happy.
Look at it this way, you should respect someone who's put in the effort to get a degree. That doesn't mean that they can't screw it up and lose that respect.
PhD - piled hight and deep
MBA- More BS attached
BS - self explanatory
BA - Broke and anal
One college professor of mine said that getting a bachelor's degree is like learning a little bit about a lot of stuff, and that getting a PhD. is like learning a lot about a little bit of stuff.
A Degree just mean you took a bunch of tests and wrote large essays for all the professors in class. Would I respect a person with a degree? In a matter of discussion....no. In a matter of a specific field....yes.
You can disagree with someone like a lawyer on matter of opinion. However, it would absolutely stupid to disagree with a lawyer in a matter of judicial discussion.
I think BF pretty much said this, but here's my thoughts....a degree is a piece of paper stating that a person was able to learn and retain information to a given standard long enough to pass written tests/examinations.
Unfortunately this doesn't mean a great deal when starting a real job, as there's still a whole lot more learning to do. Most of the grads I've worked with assume that a degree will automatically earn them respect from everyone they work with. The truth is a lot of people without a degree know far more than the grad does due to experience.
I prefer to judge people on their overall knowledge and experience, rather than what pieces of paper they've got.
Perhaps a more important question would be, "Do graduates lack respect for people without a degree?".
I thought this was kind of an interesting article...
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http://encarta.msn.com/encnet/Departments/elearning/?article=WhatIsYourDegreeWorth>1=8433
The National Association of Colleges and Employers (NACE) tracks the starting salaries of new graduates in particular disciplines. The NACE's most recent Salary Survey reports the following average starting salaries for various college degrees:
Chemical engineering: $52,539
Electrical engineering: $49,946
Computer science: $49,036
Accounting: $41,058
Information sciences: $42,375
Marketing: $34,712
English: $31,113
History: $30,344
Psychology: $28,230
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I'm glad my major isn't psychology..I've made about that much working at temp agencies. 😉
Originally posted by docb77
I knew I should have been a chemical engineer. No Biology degree listed there I see. Wonder why? Not enough bio majors, or the pay was just too low to list?
I believe many chemical engineers nowadays are also biological engineers. The fields are so closely related. I can't imagine anyone becoming one without having an exstensive educational background in biology, or vice a versa.
Now becoming a psychologist on the other hand....Well let me just put it this way..most of the people that I know who've received BA's , MA's, or PHD's in psychology, are generally those who have failed out of the more strenuous scientific fields..😉