Franklin Richards (at full potential) vs Superman

Started by Accel10 pages

Originally posted by Sin I AM
again with the speedblitz........I have as of yet to see a scan or legitimate argument where any1 states or shows how a "super" though top tier in almost every catergory could possibly defeat a character who could recreate the multiverse in his own image.

By taking him out before he perform a thought. Without his powers, Franklin still has human durability and Supes can take him out before he gets the chance to use said powers.

Originally posted by bigbran
F^A^N^T^O^Y

Use bolds it highlights and makes it look so much prettier!

Anyway Superman schmokes this fool Franklin.

too much work.

Originally posted by Accel
By taking him out before he perform a thought. Without his powers, Franklin still has human durability and Supes can take him out before he gets the chance to use said powers.

Assuming Franklin is not an abstract at full "potential":

A.) He gets speedblitzed
B.) He dies
C.) He does an Emma Frost and his mind lingers over his body (Happened twice once in her diamond form and once in her human form)
D.) He then confronts Supes in an Astral battle for possesion of Supes' body.

It's similar to what Emma did to Iceman.

Originally posted by Soleran
Which is "limitless" which is "impossible" since Superman's will is the greatest in DC universe and his T-Vo works on this as well, so a conundrum of sorts huh?

Anyway Franklin is smoked simply due to [b]SPEEDBLITZ I think its fairly clear that without Supermans speed he wouldn't have a chance with this fight.

OMG I AM A SUPERMAN FAN NOW!!!!!!!!!DERP OMGZORZ yeah anyone thats been on the forum awhile knows I'm not, but his speed is awesome! [/B]

Hals ring has already named Supermans will as one of the lesser wills.
Its not written in stone that Superman has the most willpower.

Originally posted by UniOmni
Hals ring has already named Supermans will as one of the lesser wills.
Its not written in stone that Superman has the most willpower.

Writing changes from one author to the next. Didn't he simply will Guy's ring off his hand?

Point is Superman takes this fight the way it's setup.

ok enough with the bullshit speedblitz argument. franklin is NOT a human in durability. people seem to think that his psionic powers are independant of his body, that ISNT true. cable was shot point blank in the head a couple of times yet the awesome ENERGY inside him let him live on. u cant have ridiculous arguments like speed blitz against an upper ABSTRACT level character u idiots. the only superman who even has a SLIGHT CHANCE is precrisis superman, but not even he could really defeat CHILD franklin let alone full potential multiversal GOD franklin.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
ok enough with the bullshit speedblitz argument. franklin is NOT a human in durability. people seem to think that his psionic powers are independant of his body, that ISNT true. cable was shot point blank in the head a couple of times yet the awesome ENERGY inside him let him live on. u cant have ridiculous arguments like speed blitz against an upper ABSTRACT level character u idiots. the only superman who even has a SLIGHT CHANCE is precrisis superman, but not even he could really defeat CHILD franklin let alone full potential multiversal GOD franklin.

🙄 😍 .....i think Im n love

Originally posted by leonheartmm
ok enough with the bullshit speedblitz argument. franklin is NOT a human in durability. people seem to think that his psionic powers are independant of his body, that ISNT true. cable was shot point blank in the head a couple of times yet the awesome ENERGY inside him let him live on. u cant have ridiculous arguments like speed blitz against an upper ABSTRACT level character u idiots. the only superman who even has a SLIGHT CHANCE is precrisis superman, but not even he could really defeat CHILD franklin let alone full potential multiversal GOD franklin.

Dude, you are so corny I cannot put it into other words then this, Dude you're corny.

The AWESOME ENERGY, BOOYAA hellz yeah. SPEEDBLITZ for the win unless you can possibly show me him handling FASTER then light powers not some stinkin SLOW gun fire.

people seem to think that his psionic powers are independant of his body, that ISNT true.

Do you even realize what you were saying in that sentance?

Originally posted by Soleran
Dude, you are so corny I cannot put it into other words then this, Dude you're corny.

The AWESOME ENERGY, BOOYAA hellz yeah. [b]SPEEDBLITZ for the win unless you can possibly show me him handling FASTER then light powers not some stinkin SLOW gun fire.

Do you even realize what you were saying in that sentance? [/B]

do yourself a favour and ask your MOTHER if even SHE can find it in her heart to call you smart.

i wont be replying to your idiotic post as it lacks as much in meaning as its writer lacks in perception. just a thought though. franklin can CREATE and DESTROY not to mention TRANCEND the very IDEA of speed u DUMASS. {but i doubt even he can comprehend how slow and thick YOU are}

Originally posted by Soleran
Dude, you are so corny I cannot put it into other words then this, Dude you're corny.

The AWESOME ENERGY, BOOYAA hellz yeah. [b]SPEEDBLITZ for the win unless you can possibly show me him handling FASTER then light powers not some stinkin SLOW gun fire. [/B]

To be fair we are talking about a hypothetical character, an Omega Mutant at full potential which means he'll be some sort of abstract...

BTW If he has human durability there's always that Emma trick. Where he dies, his mind lingers and he fights for Supes' body.

^ he cant just DIE with so much psionic/cosmic power inherent inside his very being.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
do yourself a favour and ask your MOTHER if even SHE can find it in her heart to call you smart.

i wont be replying to your idiotic post as it lacks as much in meaning as its writer lacks in perception. just a thought though. franklin can CREATE and DESTROY not to mention TRANCEND the very IDEA of speed u DUMASS. {but i doubt even he can comprehend how slow and thick YOU are}

Wow, you rock, seriously. Did it take awhile to come up with that?

Since there are no "fully" formed omega's. It's a theory they will turn into an abstract, unless you can show me otherwise.

Haha you actually referenced my momma, lol.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
^ he cant just DIE with so much psionic/cosmic power inherent inside his very being.

That is a possibility as well, the natural energy in Magneto, Exodus and Cable heightens their durability and strength.

BTW Jean Grey/The Phoenix Force is an abstract sort of.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
That is a possibility as well, the natural energy in Magneto, Exodus and Cable heightens their durability and strength.

BTW Jean Grey/The Phoenix Force is an abstract.

Yeah and Magento took care of that with an EMP, so that doesn't help the Franklin discussion🙁

Originally posted by Soleran
Yeah and Magento took care of that with an EMP, so that doesn't help the Franklin discussion🙁

That was Jean made flesh, I'm talking about the Firebird.

Originally posted by Soleran
Wow, you rock, seriously. Did it take awhile to come up with that?

Since there are no "fully" formed omega's. It's a theory they will turn into an abstract, unless you can show me otherwise.

Haha you actually referenced my momma, lol.

there are no fully formed omegas its TRUE. but i wasnt even TALKING about fully formed franklin.

even as a CHILD he has created multiple full sized universes unaided UNCONCIOUSLY. complete with their abstracts and he created them from NOTHING. he resurrected galactus, even BECAME galactus himself and started killing CELESTIALS. eternity was interested in him, galactus was afraid of him. i bet now ur gonna tell me that superman can speed blitx galactus, celestials and entire universes into oblivion casually.

Originally posted by Soleran
Yeah and Magento took care of that with an EMP, so that doesn't help the Franklin discussion🙁

WRONG. it was XORN a more powerful being IMPERSONATING magneto and he disabled JEAN who only has a very small amount of the abstract phoenix FORCE'S power and is subject to plot devices. again look at AVERAGE POWER levels not high end feats and PIS.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
That was Jean made flesh, I'm talking about the Firebird.

I'm not trying to run circles here I realize that, however we are talking about Franklin here and not all abstracts are built the same and potential is a seriously crazy word to use when depicting powers.

Comparing the power of stopping bullets to Superman is also crazy, its still the SPEEDBLITZ win.

^u didnt address any of the given points, merely stating again the speedblitz without reason makes u look stupid. are u stupid?