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The fact that you took my post so literally proves my point.

Originally posted by Nataku8188
The fact that you took my post so literally proves my point.

Nightwing stalemated Azrael, who is stronger, faster, and has just as much training as Wolverine.

Wolverine with no powers is no match for Nightwing. Period.

Nightwing in my humble yet daunting opinion would beat Batman or even Wolverine. He's damn good.

Originally posted by Nataku8188
Nightwing stalemated

Originally posted by Nataku8188
Azrael, who is stronger, faster, and has just as much training as Wolverine.

Originally posted by Nataku8188
Wolverine with no powers is no match for Nightwing. Period.

Logan will be toasted without his HF. Cap is not as strong as Logan and yet he manage to disable his claws. Logan is not that skillful in h2h as many of his fans rates him to be.

Originally posted by joesha28
Logan will be toasted without his HF. Cap is not as strong as Logan and yet he manage to disable his claws. Logan is not that skillful in h2h as many of his fans rates him to be.

Cap and Wolverine are equal on nearly all phycical levels 😐

The only difference is that Wolverine has a healing factor and claws and good smelling and Cap dosent.

Originally posted by Nataku8188
Revised and reposted with Deadpool substituted for Spider-man.

Captain America provides the leadership and bravado the Marvel team will need to keep up with DC's basic skill advantage. Black Panther is a terrific strategist, and Deadpool has shown time and again to be one of Marvel's most dangerous combatants, while Daredevil will make terrific additions. However, based on the OP's terms, Wolverine has no powers or special senses. As such, you've gimped the Marvel team with a headstrong berserker. From the start Marvel is fighting 4v5.

DC lacks a strong leadership role, and combining four loners with Nightwing seems like a bad combination. However, three of these five are all members of the Bats family and understand eachother, GA and DS aren't stupid either, and can easily work in with the group. What this group lacks that Marvel has is a strong leader, Batman perhaps, but he's not known to inspire and lead troops on the level Captain is. Morale is a huge factor in many fights. A couple of months ago I'd say having GA without his gear on this team would make it 4 DC vs 4 Marvel, but his recent upgrade definitly puts him on at LEAST Nightwing's level. At this point you've got three of DC's best martial artists taking on three of Marvel's best with another amazing fighter, and someone about as reliable as a well oiled midget.

I see Wolvie getting taken out first, he'd charge in recklessly, as per usual, and get his shit stomped. Without his powers he's like oldschool Azrael, who Nightwing went toe to toe with. If he decides to fight smart, he's still going to get picked out next, probably by Deathstroke, who does a 10-step on his face.

Now, I'd say either Nightwing or Green Arrow falls next. I'm sure Captain America would be doing his best to protect his teammate, but Black Panther is ruthless enough to sacrifice Wolverine to take out any of the DC's, I'm sure he'd aim for Nightwing or Green arrow in an attempt to take out the weaklest links first. One less fighter will make it all the easier.

Cut down to 4v4, It's a really tough call. If all the fighters square off and go 1v1 like fools, it'll come down to how the match-ups go, but if they fight like teams and focus fire, whichever team has the best execution will win. In that case, I'd be leaning towards DC, while individualy I'd say Marvel probably has a light advantage, the DC guys here are all used to working together (Except Deathstroke, but he's one who's willing to do what it takes to win, even if it means work with the Batcrew) while I can see Black Panther and Deadpool both doing their own thing. However, if these two work with their team, it really comes down to who picks who off first. The weakest link on Marvel's side would be Daredevil, while DC's would be Green Arrow/Nightwing. If either team was to loose a fighter, I believe that would cost them the fight. With Captain America and Daredevil's history of working to protect their partner's in a fight, I think DC would be the first to lose a fighter, and thuse the match.

If we did 5 1v1 matches;

1) Captain America takes Batman. Long, excessive fight, I'd give it to Captain. He'd beat Batman the way Azrael has, being faster, stronger, more proficient.

2) Black Panther against Batgirl, with no gadgets or anything... I have no idea. This fight would be insane.

3) Wolverine would get his shit wrecked by Green Arrow.

4) Nightwing against Deadpool would be a fairly good fight, but Deadpool has taken on Wolverine, Captain America, Agent X, Taskmaster, Killmonger (Black Panther) and held his own or outright won. Both are ridiculously agile, but Deadpool is more experienced, more ruthless, better trained, and has a threshold for pain that is downright retarded.

5) Deathstroke, by a mile.

Personally, I'd see the fights ending up as;

1) Captain America vs Batman. (See above)

2) Black Panther vs Deathstroke - This fight would be a VERY good fight, I'd lean towards Black Panther, but not by much. Both are very dangerous.

3) Wolverine vs Nightwing - Wolverine is a bit slower, less agile, a bit stronger, much more durable, a better threshold for pain, more experience. I could see this really going either way. Wolverine has some good martial prowess feats, but he's not always the best at executing them. Realisticly, I can see Nightwing having the upperhand, but Wolverine has a good puncher's chance.

4) Deadpool vs Batgirl - If anyone has the best chance against Batgirl, it'd be Deadpool. He's as agile, stronger, more durable, higher threshold of pain, not as skilled, but more unorthodox. I believe this would be a very close fight. If Batgirl relys on trying to learn Deadpool's style, she'll go down, but if she fights him as he comes, I think she can keep up, and possibly win. I'd give Deadpool the slight advantage.

5) Daredevil vs Green Arrow - I'd say Green Arrow's biggest weakness in a fight is an agile opponent. He's used to fighting bigger, stronger enemies, but when faced with guys like Dakon and Batman, the speed is what he has trouble keeping up with. With his current upgrades, I think that would be much less of a factor, but still his biggest weakness. Green Arrow can take some serious beatings, and is probably stronger than Batman (He trains just as much, and the use of that bow as much as he does would give him more muscle endurance. His bow pull-weight is absoloutly ridiculous) by a smidgen. I'd still lean slightly towards Daredevil, as he's much more accustomed to the fist-fighting, and has a lot more experience in this department. I'd give a SLIGHT majority to Daredevil.

Yep. Pretty much.

Originally posted by Nataku8188
Nightwing stalemated Azrael

Originally posted by Nataku8188
who is stronger, faster, and has just as much training as Wolverine.

Originally posted by Nataku8188
Wolverine with no powers is no match for Nightwing. Period.

Originally posted by joesha28
Logan will be toasted without his HF.

Originally posted by joesha28
Cap is not as strong as Logan and yet he manage to disable his claws.

Originally posted by joesha28
Logan is not that skillful in h2h as many of his fans rates him to be.

Originally posted by Grimm22
Cap and Wolverine are equal on nearly all phycical levels

Originally posted by Grimm22
The only difference is that Wolverine has a healing factor and claws and good smelling and Cap dosent.

Originally posted by riceroost
Good Smelling??? And you people make fun of Capt?

Heh, read that again, dude. He meant that Wolverine has superior senses in comparison to Cap.

Although, in your defense, I can see where you got confused.